LCFC will NOT face any charges for breaching PSR

[lcfcbluearmy]

9 minutes ago, Bilo said:

Maguire made this point as well about Manchester City and why the Premier League couldn't just straight up relegate them as the Italian FA did with Juventus.

 

Serie A, B and C are all the same legal entity so Juventus weren't being expelled from their league, but demoted to a lower level of it. By contrast, Manchester City cannot be demoted from Legal Entity A to Legal Entity B because the rules don't align, meaning that the most the PL could do is to give them a points deduction that they could theoretically overcome to survive.

 

It's not a million miles away for us. Any punishment the PL could give us for conduct in the PL has no standing in the EFL and vice versa. 

Surely the prem is a private entity that could kick anyone it wanted out for breaking the rules if a club has been deemed to break them and a court thinks its an appropriate punishment.

 

Where it is different from Italy and the juventus case is it wouldn't be a relegation from to the championship that would be imposed just an expulsion from the Premier League. It would then be up to the efl on whether to let them join and at what level of the efl they join at.

 

So in Italy because it's one organisation serie A can say your punishment is relegation to Serie B. However in England because they are separate entities the Prem could expel man city and not allow them to compete ne,t year but they wouldn't automatically be allowed into the championship. Man city would then have to apply to join the efl and it would be up to the efl to decide whether to allow them in.

 

So if the prem decide to expel man city it is theoretically possible the efl will decide not to let them join and man city have no league next season/ have to play non league

[FrankieADZ]

1 minute ago, urban.spaceman said:

Should be 600. 

think it will be a record, something to get them near enough relegated, maybe 100 points

then theyd have another record, the worse prem total in history win win

Edited 14 January by FrankieADZ

[Bilo]

4 minutes ago, lcfcbluearmy said:

Surely the prem is a private entity that could kick anyone it wanted out for breaking the rules if a club has been deemed to break them and a court thinks its an appropriate punishment.

 

Where it is different from Italy and the juventus case is it wouldn't be a relegation from to the championship that would be imposed just an expulsion from the Premier League. It would then be up to the efl on whether to let them join and at what level of the efl they join at.

 

So in Italy because it's one organisation serie A can say your punishment is relegation to Serie B. However in England because they are separate entities the Prem could expel man city and not allow them to compete ne,t year but they wouldn't automatically be allowed into the championship. Man city would then have to apply to join the efl and it would be up to the efl to decide whether to allow them in.

 

So if the prem decide to expel man city it is theoretically possible the efl will decide not to let them join and man city have no league next season/ have to play non league

It probably wouldn't hold up at CAS because it could effectively put them out of existence due to having no tournament to play in. With Juve, they were guaranteed a spot in Serie B and this meant that they would at least have a competition to play in from which they could earn promotion back to Serie A.

 

That's not to say that the PL couldn't effectively relegate them with a 60-100 point deduction, which would just mean that they would go down in the same way that the other two clubs would and be automatically accepted by the EFL as part of the annual process. 

[Levi Port]

1 hour ago, StanSP said:

No thanks. 

 

There's nothing to like about him any more when it comes to having power at the club. He's more a detriment than benefit these days and seems totally devoid of accountability or being held accountable by his peers or seniors. 

Gota see the funny side in it all though it’s never boring in this mess 

[Clever Fox]

12 minutes ago, lcfcbluearmy said:

Surely the prem is a private entity that could kick anyone it wanted out for breaking the rules if a club has been deemed to break them and a court thinks its an appropriate punishment.

 

Where it is different from Italy and the juventus case is it wouldn't be a relegation from to the championship that would be imposed just an expulsion from the Premier League. It would then be up to the efl on whether to let them join and at what level of the efl they join at.

 

So in Italy because it's one organisation serie A can say your punishment is relegation to Serie B. However in England because they are separate entities the Prem could expel man city and not allow them to compete ne,t year but they wouldn't automatically be allowed into the championship. Man city would then have to apply to join the efl and it would be up to the efl to decide whether to allow them in.

 

So if the prem decide to expel man city it is theoretically possible the efl will decide not to let them join and man city have no league next season/ have to play non league

When the Premier league broke away from the FA they became a Company in their own right. Totally seperate to the EFL. Which covers the other 3 League. Championship lg 1 and lg 2.

 

Think of it as two seperate Companies operating in the same Business field. Example, You can't sue Asda if you got something dodgy in Tesco's.

 

That's the big difference between our Football leagues and the Italian leagues. The Italian Clubs all come under the same legal banner.

 

My guess is the Prem league will come up with some quasi legal connection to the Championship and other leagues.

 

Funny how the Wheel has turned full circle in such a short space of time. That is,  Breakaway from the FA to form the Premiership and now will have to somehow connect to the EFL.

[fox_favourite]

PL - you will face PSR charges

 

LCFC - 

 

 

[Sunbury Fox]

Thinking about next season, if, as seems likely,  we’re in the Championship, does anyone know what sanctions the EFL can look to impose? Will they have to wait for the 24-25 year accounts to be lodged ie until this time next year? Or will they have a legal basis to slap us with retrospective sanctions from the start of the season on the back of previous compliance failures?  

[Bilo]

10 minutes ago, Clever Fox said:

When the Premier league broke away from the FA they became a Company in their own right. Totally seperate to the EFL. Which covers the other 3 League. Championship lg 1 and lg 2.

 

Think of it as two seperate Companies operating in the same Business field. Example, You can't sue Asda if you got something dodgy in Tesco's.

 

That's the big difference between our Football leagues and the Italian leagues. The Italian Clubs all come under the same legal banner.

 

My guess is the Prem league will come up with some quasi legal connection to the Championship and other leagues.

 

Funny how the Wheel has turned full circle in such a short space of time. That is,  Breakaway from the FA to form the Premiership and now will have to somehow connect to the EFL.

The neatest way around the problem would probably be to do what Scotland did and merge the two entities.  Call it the EPFL.

[urban.spaceman]

30 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

think it will be a record, something to get them near enough relegated, maybe 100 points

then theyd have another record, the worse prem total in history win win

They honestly need to take this very seriously. In the very last season that they're being investigated for, they "won" 100 points. In every season since, they've "won" 98, 81, 86, 93, 89 and 91. 

 

If they were to be fined a measly 60 points they could feasibly still survive and just return to normality the following season. 100 points and they get to beat Derby's record, which is really unfair on everyone cos Derby really earned that. One season in the Championship and they'd just come back up and return to normality again.

 

Their cumulative points tally for 2008/09-2017/18 is 764. If they want to serve proper justice the deduction should be high enough to prevent them from ever doing that they've done again.

[Clever Fox]

Just now, Bilo said:

The neatest way around the problem would probably be to do what Scotland did and merge the two entities.  Call it the EPFL.

Yes it would , But the Premier league would be out numbered by the smaller Clubs, Which is what caused them to beak away before.

 

My guess is they'll come up with some system in return for Financial support to the EFL which they give now anyway. But increase the amount for a deal.

 

Something like all Clubs will participate in the same rules for Football only purposes.  But shall remain seperate for all other reasons.

[urban.spaceman]

[Simonb]

Fk PSR.. let's go out there and spend 200m, stay up and really pee Simon Jordan off 🤣

 

Realistically though. Great news

[Clever Fox]

3 minutes ago, Simonb said:

Fk PSR.. let's go out there and spend 200m, stay up and really pee Simon Jordan off 🤣

 

Realistically though. Great news

In fairness to Jordan, He did point out how nieve the Prem league were.

 

I mean, I'm sure this is grade 1 first year Legal stuff.  It's like adding 1+1 and coming up with 3