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[Dahnsouff]

3 minutes ago, Bilo said:

https://as.cornell.edu/news/trumps-abrupt-decision-play-dj-sign-accelerating-cognitive-decline-says-cornell-expert

 

Trump almost certainly has dementia. 

 

And this is very worrying, as it's likely that his cognitive decline will be covered up and denied by his supine, servile cabinet of brown noses, crooks and grifters. 

 

The first step is that Vance and a majority of his Cabinet would have to declare him unfit of discharging his duties. Unlikely given the obedient reprobates he's put in place, at least until he's pissing in his shoes and starts thinking his name is Steven the Wonder Horse.

 

Even then, Trump is narcissistic enough to object. At which point, Vance and the Cabinet would have four days to reaffirm their declaration. Not sure where they download that set.

 

If Trump still argues, and he probably will, then there has to be a two-thirds majority of both the House of Representatives and Senate agreeing that he's unfit to be president within three weeks or the dementia patient finishes his term not even knowing what day it is.

Cannot believe that Trump is the ultimate kingmaker here, so it would be in that person/groups interest to slide him to one side and replace him.

[Bilo]

1 minute ago, Lionator said:

99% sure he doesn’t, he’s just old and silly.  If Biden survived four years with actual cognitive impairment then Trump will be fine. 

There is at least as much evidence that Trump has cognitive impairment than Biden, arguably more. 

 

Add in his age, weight as well as family history of dementia and heart disease, and he's almost as likely to leave the White House in a pine box as he is in a Black Hawk.

[Bilo]

3 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Cannot believe that Trump is the ultimate kingmaker here, so it would be in that person/groups interest to slide him to one side and replace him.

The 25th Amendment was written at a time when presidents were usually sane and respected the office. It was there to ensure that the mechanism to remove an unfit president was in place, but also to ensure that the president couldn't simply be removed in bad faith via an ambitious cabinet wanting to appoint their man as soon as the president has a sniffle.

[Dunge]

I don’t know whether he has dementia or otherwise, but something curious I have noticed over the last few months is that whenever he has a meeting with someone or has to concentrate on something, he comes out of it parroting the person he’s met. Meeting with Keir Starmer? Comes away saying they don’t agree on everything but are building a good relationship - basically the kind of words you’d expect from Starmer’s mouth. Phonecall with Putin? He starts parroting Putin.

 

All the talk of negotiating positions I think is rot. He’s coming across as someone who doesn’t know his own mind.

[Dahnsouff]

4 minutes ago, Bilo said:

The 25th Amendment was written at a time when presidents were usually sane and respected the office. It was there to ensure that the mechanism to remove an unfit president was in place, but also to ensure that the president couldn't simply be removed in bad faith via an ambitious cabinet wanting to appoint their man as soon as the president has a sniffle.

So unless Trump were to effectively step aside, he is here to stay?

[Bilo]

2 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

So unless Trump were to effectively step aside, he is here to stay?

Unless Vance and a majority of his Cabinet (twice) said otherwise, followed by 290 Congressmen/women and 67 Senators, yes. 

[Mike Oxlong]

8 minutes ago, Bilo said:

Unless Vance and a majority of his Cabinet (twice) said otherwise, followed by 290 Congressmen/women and 67 Senators, yes. 

[Bilo]

Just now, Mike Oxlong said:

Exactly. 

 

We've just got to hope he does an Elvis.

[DJ Barry Hammond]

12 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

So unless Trump were to effectively step aside, he is here to stay?

He’s made enough enemies over the course of just this month that I wouldn’t be surprised if someone goes for ultimate retribution.
 

 

[leicsmac]

59 minutes ago, Lambert09 said:

As someone who lives in Canada it’s hard to take your eyes off of America right now. It’s beyond madness that he can brazenly side with Russia and still not lose support. 

 

When he started all the talk about wanting Canada, I think people expected the whole of Canada to unite against it. But the Canadians that were trump supporters whom I fully expected to be just as insulted, all seem to go along with it. I think those that are already hypnotized by him are not going to ever change their minds.  
 

I still don’t fully believe things are as they seem and that the online pr campaign paints a different picture to the support in reality. But it shows how easily some people can be influenced online. Some of the nicest Canadians I know have been sucked in and embrace him without any logic behind it. The only reasons I’ve ever heard are pointing fingers at the other side, rather than ever actually defending him.  The world is crumbling and is going to be picked apart one nation at a time 

The worst thing is that some people have seen this coming for the last decade or more. It was preventable.

 

However the good, if rather macabre, thing is that in the words of Frodo, "they cannot conquer forever". Their ideology will not survive the changing world - however, unfortunately, it may end up taking civilisation with it as it dies.

 

50 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Makes me wonder if the Trump machine has judged the timing of the World’s apathy to perfection

See above.

[Dahnsouff]

3 minutes ago, DJ Barry Hammond said:

He’s made enough enemies over the course of just this month that I wouldn’t be surprised if someone goes for ultimate retribution.
 

Zelensky to do it in a blockbuster end to the film?

(whilst crying, ‘There can be only one’)

Edited 19 February by Dahnsouff

[Parafox]

5 minutes ago, Bilo said:

Exactly. 

 

We've just got to hope he does an Elvis.

 

But then VP Vance would become interim president and that doesn't bode well either.

[Md9]

Quicker that fat orange c*** falls down the stairs or has a heart attack the better. Followed by a few of his mates . we are not that lucky though 

[Dunge]

1 minute ago, Parafox said:

 

But then VP Vance would become interim president and that doesn't bode well either.

He won’t inspire the same devotion as Trump gets.

[Sly]

Trump and Vance are about as trustworthy as Stalin and Molotov! 

[Bilo]

7 minutes ago, Parafox said:

 

But then VP Vance would become interim president and that doesn't bode well either.

What's even more interesting is that if it happens before the midterms, Vance can only have presidential term of his own. 

 

Also, as I've said before, I don't think Trumpism translates well to anyone else. It's essentially a personality cult.

[Parafox]

3 minutes ago, Dunge said:

He won’t inspire the same devotion as Trump gets.

 

He doesn't need it. If Trump carks it, Vance becomes president for the rest of the term of office. 

 

25th Amendment:

 

The 25th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States establishes the following provisions:

Section 1.

In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.

 

 

[Sly]

 

[Parafox]

3 minutes ago, Bilo said:

What's even more interesting is that if it happens before the midterms, Vance can only have presidential term of his own. 

 

Also, as I've said before, I don't think Trumpism translates well to anyone else. It's essentially a personality cult.

 

So was the Mansons

[Sampson]

55 minutes ago, Clogger_ said:

British right wing really showing themselves off as phony patriots and fascist appeasers, aren't they. Really interesting to see how quickly they've fallen in behind Putin and Trump's BS.

Shhh. We’re still not allowed to call them the f word. The left are just as bad as the right because they simply call the spade a spade, which is equivalent to the spade itself doing openly and blatent spade things apparently.

Edited 19 February by Sampson

[Bilo]

3 minutes ago, Parafox said:

 

He doesn't need it. If Trump carks it, Vance becomes president for the rest of the term of office. 

 

25th Amendment:

 

The 25th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States establishes the following provisions:

Section 1.

In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.

 

 

He does, but that doesn’t necessarily mean he'll be reelected. 

 

The last president to be replaced midterm was Richard Nixon, and his replacement (Gerald Ford) lost to Jimmy Carter.

[Parafox]

16 minutes ago, Bilo said:

He does, but that doesn’t necessarily mean he'll be reelected. 

 

The last president to be replaced midterm was Richard Nixon, and his replacement (Gerald Ford) lost to Jimmy Carter.

 

You're right of course but if DT died tomorrow Vance would have almost 4 years as POTUS to continue the present course of MAGA and he is shown to be as much about that as Trump. 

 

Without credible opposition, which so far is the case, it's likely Vance would garner support from the same base as has Trump.

[Bilo]

7 minutes ago, Parafox said:

 

You're right of course but if DT died tomorrow Vance would have almost 4 years as POTUS to continue the present course of MAGA and he is shown to be as much about that as Trump. 

 

Without credible opposition, which so far is the case, it's likely Vance would garner support from the same base as has Trump.

I'm not sure that goes well for him based on very early polling. 

[Daggers]

1 hour ago, Bilo said:

… he's almost as likely to leave the White House in a pine box …

 

[Torquay Gunner]

1 hour ago, Bilo said:

There is at least as much evidence that Trump has cognitive impairment than Biden, arguably more. 

 

Add in his age, weight as well as family history of dementia and heart disease, and he's almost as likely to leave the White House in a pine box as he is in a Black Hawk.

We can but hope.