SystonFox Posted 22 July 2006 Share Posted 22 July 2006 whats your opinions on Elvis? he seems to have hit some form in pre-season, and when i first saw him he looks promising, he may run aimlessly at times but he does cause a bit of trouble. i hope he does well coming off the bench this season, same goes for COG but i cant see the top 2 strikers having any trouble not getting on the team-sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longy Posted 22 July 2006 Share Posted 22 July 2006 Agreed .. Will be Fryatt and Humeh next season again ... altho CoG in myn opinion should be given a run .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loake Posted 22 July 2006 Share Posted 22 July 2006 Elvis always gives everything, so he may not be great, but at least he tries!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandannieldanok Posted 22 July 2006 Share Posted 22 July 2006 Elvis will always caused problems with his pace and I do think he can finish well on occasions, nice to see him in good form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willy37 Posted 22 July 2006 Share Posted 22 July 2006 ive always liked elvis, sometimes his finishing leaves a lot to be desired but always gives 100% personally i think this year we have the healthiest competition for places for a few years now, both elvis and o'grady want to get in the starting 11, which in theory should keep hume and fryatt hungry to do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newms Posted 22 July 2006 Share Posted 22 July 2006 ive always liked elvis, sometimes his finishing leaves a lot to be desired but always gives 100% personally i think this year we have the healthiest competition for places for a few years now, both elvis and o'grady want to get in the starting 11, which in theory should keep hume and fryatt hungry to do well. I completely agree. Remember last season we were starting the season with only Connolly and De Vries as established strikers upfront. After Connolly left we were left very weak. Perhaps in signing Hume, Hammond and Fryatt Levein did something right and thanks to the work on the training ground O'Grady looks a player that would have cost us a substantial fee had he not progressed through the youth team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli Posted 22 July 2006 Share Posted 22 July 2006 Elvis has just found his level of football at the teams who we have been playing. League 2 striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SystonFox Posted 22 July 2006 Author Share Posted 22 July 2006 Elvis has just found his level of football at the teams who we have been playing. League 2 striker. i also thought that when typing out my 1st post but did not want to mention. lets hope this isnt the case as we payed £300k for him!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobbo Posted 22 July 2006 Share Posted 22 July 2006 I think he showed at Cov away last year how much of a handful he can be and how hard he works. I don't mind Elvis at all (albeit that he shoots like an arse). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonbluefox9 Posted 22 July 2006 Share Posted 22 July 2006 I agree with people that say he tries his best but, for me, that's the minimum requirement of a professional in any business or sport, football being no different. I don't think trying his best should be seen as a skill he brings to the squad because I'm sure most of our players have tried their best, since Riob Kelly took over at least. His pace is a danger to other teams but unless he can improve his finishing and distribution then the pace will count for very little to the team as a whole. Two goals against League Two teams doesn't make me think he's going to be amazingly improved this season. Maybe a bit better but he was avaerage last season for a striker so being a bit better may not be good enough. Just because I've said this, doesn't mean I won't support him when he pulls on a Leicester shirt at some point next season, it just means I don't think he's quite good enough to be in our first team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 22 July 2006 Share Posted 22 July 2006 I agree with people that say he tries his best but, for me, that's the minimum requirement of a professional in any business or sport, football being no different. I don't think trying his best should be seen as a skill he brings to the squad because I'm sure most of our players have tried their best, since Riob Kelly took over at least. His pace is a danger to other teams but unless he can improve his finishing and distribution then the pace will count for very little to the team as a whole. Two goals against League Two teams doesn't make me think he's going to be amazingly improved this season. Maybe a bit better but he was avaerage last season for a striker so being a bit better may not be good enough. Just because I've said this, doesn't mean I won't support him when he pulls on a Leicester shirt at some point next season, it just means I don't think he's quite good enough to be in our first team. I don't think who he scores against matters. He didn't have a scoring record worth mentioning at Fulham - either at first team or reserve level. That he has started scoring now may suggest that Kelly has had some effect on the coaching field and that Hammond has followed O'Grady and put significan effort into improving his game. If so I'll be delighted because, unlike Sylla, he has often threatened to be dangerous and if he can finish clinically then he will be more than good enough for our first team. I like both Hume and Fryatt but I don't subscribe to the view that either are any better than good. O'Grady and Hammond would be the same - and Ashley Chambers perhaps better than all four when he finally emerges. What it means for Leicester City is that there is healthy competition for places and the problem for Kelly will be deciding who gets the nod and on what basis, and then keeping the other equally deserving players happy. It appears he will have the same problem with people like Porter and Sheehan but so far, Kelly seems genuinely determined to keep all his squad members actively involved which ought to auger well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stez Posted 22 July 2006 Share Posted 22 July 2006 I don't think who he scores against matters. He didn't have a scoring record worth mentioning at Fulham - either at first team or reserve level. That he has started scoring now may suggest that Kelly has had some effect on the coaching field and that Hammond has followed O'Grady and put significan effort into improving his game. If so I'll be delighted because, unlike Sylla, he has often threatened to be dangerous and if he can finish clinically then he will be more than good enough for our first team. I like both Hume and Fryatt but I don't subscribe to the view that either are any better than good. O'Grady and Hammond would be the same - and Ashley Chambers perhaps better than all four when he finally emerges. What it means for Leicester City is that there is healthy competition for places and the problem for Kelly will be deciding who gets the nod and on what basis, and then keeping the other equally deserving players happy. It appears he will have the same problem with people like Porter and Sheehan but so far, Kelly seems genuinely determined to keep all his squad members actively involved which ought to auger well. He didn't have a scoring record at Fulham. is how that should've read! it was something that concerned me when i heard CL was going to make his loan move perminant. he's just a fast version of clarence benjamin. if he could be taught to cross a ball he could be useful down the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gist Posted 22 July 2006 Share Posted 22 July 2006 He is useful now he might not be able to score goals as often as the other strikers but when his chance comes he still has the ability to create them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonbluefox9 Posted 22 July 2006 Share Posted 22 July 2006 I don't think who he scores against matters. He didn't have a scoring record worth mentioning at Fulham - either at first team or reserve level. That he has started scoring now may suggest that Kelly has had some effect on the coaching field and that Hammond has followed O'Grady and put significan effort into improving his game. If so I'll be delighted because, unlike Sylla, he has often threatened to be dangerous and if he can finish clinically then he will be more than good enough for our first team. I like both Hume and Fryatt but I don't subscribe to the view that either are any better than good. O'Grady and Hammond would be the same - and Ashley Chambers perhaps better than all four when he finally emerges. What it means for Leicester City is that there is healthy competition for places and the problem for Kelly will be deciding who gets the nod and on what basis, and then keeping the other equally deserving players happy. It appears he will have the same problem with people like Porter and Sheehan but so far, Kelly seems genuinely determined to keep all his squad members actively involved which ought to auger well. It's a big if. Some of the chances I saw him miss, even at reserve team level, should be simple to a professional striker. It was only a few months ago in April that I saw him miss chances galore against Southampton reserves including an open goal. It's hard for me to forget things like that especially after watching him look out of sorts in front of goal on a fair few occasions for the first team too. Until I see for myself that he looks more composed in front of goal then my view won't change. I take pre-season games with a pinch of salt especially when I haven't seen them for myself. I can only judge Hammond on what I've seen and the last impression he gave me was in that reserve game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted 22 July 2006 Share Posted 22 July 2006 Elvis has little or no composure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonbluefox9 Posted 22 July 2006 Share Posted 22 July 2006 Elvis has little or no composure. I have to agree, can you coach someone that? I don't think so myself. That's why I'm not too hopeful at this moment in time but I'm willing to eat my words this time next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shen Posted 22 July 2006 Share Posted 22 July 2006 I have to agree, can you coach someone that? I don't think so myself. That's why I'm not too hopeful at this moment in time but I'm willing to eat my words this time next year. Sure you can. If you train his finishing intensively he will inevitably become more confident in his scoring ability and as a result a bit more composed in scoring situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandannieldanok Posted 22 July 2006 Share Posted 22 July 2006 Sure you can. If you train his finishing intensively he will inevitably become more confident in his scoring ability and as a result a bit more composed in scoring situations. Agreed, practice makes perfect, how do you think David Beckham learned to curl the ball like he does? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultra Posted 22 July 2006 Share Posted 22 July 2006 He's good back-up, that's all. Useful to have on the bench, but unless he produces against top-quality opposition like Real Sociedad he's not likely to break through to the first 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonbluefox9 Posted 23 July 2006 Share Posted 23 July 2006 Agreed, practice makes perfect, how do you think David Beckham learned to curl the ball like he does? Practice will improve his composure in front of goal a little but do you really think he hasn't been working on his finishing since he joined us? Why's his compusure not improved so far? It's a mental aspect. Practice will help and hopefully the goals he has scored will build his confidence a bit more too. When de Vries first joined us and didn't score for a while wasn't because he wasn't practicing at the training ground. In fact he used to put more away than Connolly during training but matches are a different kettle of fish. So for all the practice during training nothing can prepare him properly for when a defender is breathing down his neck and is determined to prevent him from scoring. The closest thing to that are friendlies and reserve games although they will be slightly different from now on. That's why his two goals are encouraging but aren't getting me overly excited yet. Beckham used to practice a lot, yes, but don't think he got where he is just by practicing. He's got natural ability too. Not saying Hammond's got no ability just not as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted 23 July 2006 Share Posted 23 July 2006 Even if Elvis does practice and I am sure he does then it does not show. Nearly everything is rushed and hit too hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 23 July 2006 Share Posted 23 July 2006 Most strikers lose their composure in front of goal in the careers when they haven't scored for a while - that's why the have long barren spells. This is often resolved after a couple of fortunate, off the arse goals. What we need to hope for is that Elvis's career up to now has been one extraordinarily long barren spell sustained by not scoring a couple of fortunate goals. He's now scored two off the back of CoGs efforts, hopefully this will allow the composure within him to rise and enable him to go on a goal scoring spree not seen at Leicester since the days of Lineker. davieG, davieG wake up it’s time for your medication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shen Posted 23 July 2006 Share Posted 23 July 2006 Most strikers lose their composure in front of goal in the careers when they haven't scored for a while - that's why the have long barren spells. This is often resolved after a couple of fortunate, off the arse goals. What we need to hope for is that Elvis's career up to now has been one extraordinarily long barren spell sustained by not scoring a couple of fortunate goals. He's now scored two off the back of CoGs efforts, hopefully this will allow the composure within him to rise and enable him to go on a goal scoring spree not seen at Leicester since the days of Lineker. davieG, davieG wake up it’s time for your medication. This is what we all thought would happen too when Akinbiyi finally broke his scoring duck....alas... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stez Posted 23 July 2006 Share Posted 23 July 2006 This is what we all thought would happen too when Akinbiyi finally broke his scoring duck....alas... he was like mark bright, who was given grief for not scoring, but then left leicester to go on and have a good scoring record elsewhere. how many top scorers do we have in the top ten? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted 23 July 2006 Share Posted 23 July 2006 he was like mark bright, who was given grief for not scoring, but then left leicester to go on and have a good scoring record elsewhere. how many top scorers do we have in the top ten? Mark de Vries Leicester 9 6 1 2 0 Top City scorer I notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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