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[The People's Hero]

Surreal Madrid.

You call those of us who are dissatisfied short-termists.

You must, then, believe that Rob Kelly can turn this round?

A lack of reply will confirm what I think - quick to criticise us, slow to think.

[Surreal Madrid]

Surreal Madrid.

You call those of us who are dissatisfied short-termists.

You must, then, believe that Rob Kelly can turn this round?

A lack of reply will confirm what I think - quick to criticise us, slow to think.

I do believe he can.

[Surreal Madrid]

We still get a fair bit of money from the concourse, even if we franchise it out we'd still get more money for the more products that were sold. And why on earth would we only get half of the gate money once VAT, etc was taken off. Villa would only get a percentage depending on the percentage of fans they bought. It's only in the FA Cup where the away team get a bigger slice of the money. The Football League don't take almost half of the gate money per match either!!!.

Err, after policing, stewarding costs and a very basic travel allowance to the away team the split in the football league cup is 45% home team, 45% away team and 10% to the football league.

[The People's Hero]

I do believe he can.

Ok.. Fine.

You believe he can.

We believe he can't.

Doesn't make us short termists or you a long termist.

Do state that would be to believe that I would always believe a manager to be incapable in the short term, which I find to be laughable as well as fairly insulting and patronising.

[Manwell Pablo]

FFS bickering over £100,000....such as small amount in football. Is this what it's come to.

For what its worth I've herd we are set to net between £150,000 and £200,000.

[Surreal Madrid]

Ok.. Fine.

You believe he can.

We believe he can't.

Doesn't make us short termists or you a long termist.

Do state that would be to believe that I would always believe a manager to be incapable in the short term, which I find to be laughable as well as fairly insulting and patronising.

I was merely implying, and this was not directed at anybody in particular, that if we got a new guy in, and he was not very successful, in six months down the line there would be calls for his head. The revolving door policy re managers is not, in my view, good for the club. I think a bit of stability for a change might pay dividends. not tomorrow, not in a month's time but in the 18 months to two years time frame.

[Surreal Madrid]

FFS bickering over £100,000....such as small amount in football. Is this what it's come to.

For what its worth I've herd we are set to net between £150,000 and £200,000.

I would still stick with my £140,000 with perhaps another £20,000 from catering, etc.

[The People's Hero]

I was merely implying, and this was not directed at anybody in particular, that if we got a new guy in, and he was not very successful, in six months down the line there would be calls for his head. The revolving door policy re managers is not, in my view, good for the club. I think a bit of stability for a change might pay dividends. not tomorrow, not in a month's time but in the 18 months to two years time frame.

This is probably where we differ.

The reason I don't have any faith in RK is becuase I never really have and I don't really see him turning this round. It's not short-termist at all... for what it's worth, I still think he'd be shit if he held down the job for 10 years.

To be fair, it's all immaterial as the board simply aren't going to act. It's not their style.

[Fez of Mahrez]

I was merely implying, and this was not directed at anybody in particular, that if we got a new guy in, and he was not very successful, in six months down the line there would be calls for his head. The revolving door policy re managers is not, in my view, good for the club. I think a bit of stability for a change might pay dividends. not tomorrow, not in a month's time but in the 18 months to two years time frame.

If you're going to stick with someone for a long period of time, you want someone you can trust. I don't trust Kelly to get us scoring enough goals to stay in this division for more than a year or two anymore.

The arguments against short-termism will be immaterial anyway if we are in the bottom three into the New Year as this club cannot afford to be relegated and the board will be too scared of going down not to sack him just like they sacked Levein in the same situation.

[Manwell Pablo]

I was merely implying, and this was not directed at anybody in particular, that if we got a new guy in, and he was not very successful, in six months down the line there would be calls for his head. The revolving door policy re managers is not, in my view, good for the club. I think a bit of stability for a change might pay dividends. not tomorrow, not in a month's time but in the 18 months to two years time frame.

You have to remember Rob Kelly is unproven and inexperinced and not paticularly hard to get rid of, the average fan is going to have alot less time for him than a proven manager. A manager with a track record would not be under as much pressure as Kelly. A reason why he needs results in the short term, he has no long term record.

[Thracian]

I was merely implying, and this was not directed at anybody in particular, that if we got a new guy in, and he was not very successful, in six months down the line there would be calls for his head. The revolving door policy re managers is not, in my view, good for the club. I think a bit of stability for a change might pay dividends. not tomorrow, not in a month's time but in the 18 months to two years time frame.

I stand correcting by others but I don't think RK is being criticised specifically for lack of success. To some extent his saving us from relegation was success of a sort. He is being criticised for not improving the way the team plays and for his negative tactics/team selections.

When a team is overweighted with defensive players who are not playing well and that team has gone eight of the last 11 League games without scoring, not won away, has only scored in four of the 10 League games played this season and is near the bottom of the table any manager is going to be criticised.

Furthermore he'd expect to be criticised.

[Surreal Madrid]

I stand correcting by others but I don't think RK is being criticised specifically for lack of success. To some extent his saving us from relegation was success of a sort. He is being criticised for not improving the way the team plays and for his negative tactics/team selections.

When a team is overweighted with defensive players who are not playing well and that team has gone eight of the last 11 League games without scoring, not won away, has only scored in four of the 10 League games played this season and is near the bottom of the table any manager is going to be criticised.

Furthermore he'd expect to be criticised.

If we were winning I don't think you would have many complaints. The promotion season under Micky Adams was certainly not pretty or, in the main attractive, but the vast majority of fans were happy and turning up in their droves.

[Ultra]

The difference then was that we had a lot of players of proven quality, unlike the current bunch of hackers, hasbeens and rookies.

[Thracian]

If we were winning I don't think you would have many complaints. The promotion season under Micky Adams was certainly not pretty or, in the main attractive, but the vast majority of fans were happy and turning up in their droves.

We won enough games in the two months after Kelly took over but I was rarely impressed with the style of play. It was functional rather than exciting or entertaining.

And I wasn't impressed with the lack of progress towards the end of the season when we were safe.

[davieG]

If we were winning I don't think you would have many complaints. The promotion season under Micky Adams was certainly not pretty or, in the main attractive, but the vast majority of fans were happy and turning up in their droves.

But we're not winning, we're not scoring, we're not entertaining, whether RK leaving is the answer I don't know but I do know that what is being served up is unacceptable at every level, there is not a single saving grace about our current situation.

[lildave3]

The next few games are key. If we can something off all of them like we did brum, i think we will go on to finish in the top half.

[Daggers]

A reason why he needs results in the short term, he has no long term record.

Brilliantly put, I couldn't agree more.

[Isopen]

That money could bring Collymore in for the season. I get a twitcher on just thinking about Collymore scoring goals for Leicester again. A front three of Collymore, Fryatt and Hume with the right sort of football being played would piss all over this league in my opinion.

This dream is plausible if only we had a board with some bollocks and invention. Do it!!!!!!!

Stan thinks he would do it in the Prem

I bet hs is gutted that Sutton has gone to Villa today, because if you have read Stan's book, the one manager he would readily play for again is MON who he said knew how to get the best out of him.

No chance he will end up at Palace though....

[Foxes_Trust]

I would still stick with my £140,000 with perhaps another £20,000 from catering, etc.

Concourse sales - it's a fixed amount, so sales don't matter game to game. Corporate hospitality food though is directly from the club, so would be a boost to income

[Ric Flair]

The difference then was that we had a lot of players of proven quality, unlike the current bunch of hackers, hasbeens and rookies.

Also, it was the novelty of a new ground. We were doing well and we were in financial ruin but the fans were showing their support. Now we are just a bewildered club going no where but down.