Geo V Posted 17 August 2007 Posted 17 August 2007 I feking hate the people that claim to be Man U fans.Mostly school kids, who have never watched them play. I know someone who was a Man U 'Fan' who dint even know the scores for most of the games they played. Pathetic! Embarrassingly, my younger brother is one of them I managed to bring the middle brother with me to the footy every now and again when I was 18 and he was 16 but the younger one was about 8 at the time was too young. He supported Man Utd as a kid and it stuck, even when we moved down to London . At 25 he still supports them but is typical of someone who isnt really a fan. He even said he hated Gary Neville who is meant to be a modern day Mr Man Utd Then again, when I was a kid and being raised initially in Cambridgshire, I supported Liverpool as the local choice was Peterboro (about 15 miles away or Cambridge) and they werent that appealing Still, its OK. Its all about LEICESTER now
Daggers Posted 17 August 2007 Posted 17 August 2007 aww, that's really sad, almost heartbreaking - i mean, not only did you not get to see a game, but you had to live in the wilderness... sh1t, we should actually start a peer group or fund or something... - the LWICD Organisation for Supporters Experiencing Reduced Spectatorship - or some such acronym-led outfit. Oi! I want a f'cking group for those of us poor bastards that have actually had to suffer watching City. Where's my damn group, huh? Huh?
lildave3 Posted 17 August 2007 Posted 17 August 2007 If we're talking about Walkers never having gone to a single game, it's inexcusable.
Brainy Posted 17 August 2007 Author Posted 17 August 2007 It'd be different if you were in my situation LD3, trust me. good comeback - got anything to say about the comment then?
lildave3 Posted 17 August 2007 Posted 17 August 2007 It'd be different if you were in my situation LD3, trust me. I would never get into your situation, trust me.
lookwhaticando Posted 17 August 2007 Posted 17 August 2007 Alright girls, break it up. Walkers has never been to a game. He says he's a fan of Leicester City. Deal with it. I've never been to a City game. I also claim to be a City fan. Deal with it. There's many different shades of fan... there's the ones who eat, drink, bleed, sleep, shit & piss Leicester City. There's the ones who buy a season ticket year upon year, but never buy anything else from the club (replica gear, for example). There's the ones who buy all the gear but only make it to a couple of matches. There's the ones who are boycotting the Walkers stadium and only go to Away games. There's the ones who live 10,000 miles away in Australia, who clearly don't have much chance of attending matches or watching them on the box, but somehow feel connected to the club - they may also buy some of the kit. There's the people who can't afford to do any of this... who also claim to support Leicester City. As Fez said right off the bat, it's not black and white... it's not even a variety of shades of grey. It's a giant fucking technicolour dreamcoat of fans, and if there's a certain colour you don't like, well that's just too bad.
Geo V Posted 17 August 2007 Posted 17 August 2007 Alright girls, break it up.Walkers has never been to a game. He says he's a fan of Leicester City. Deal with it. I've never been to a City game. I also claim to be a City fan. Deal with it. There's many different shades of fan... there's the ones who eat, drink, bleed, sleep, shit & piss Leicester City. There's the ones who buy a season ticket year upon year, but never buy anything else from the club (replica gear, for example). There's the ones who buy all the gear but only make it to a couple of matches. There's the ones who are boycotting the Walkers stadium and only go to Away games. There's the ones who live 10,000 miles away in Australia, who clearly don't have much chance of attending matches or watching them on the box, but somehow feel connected to the club - they may also buy some of the kit. There's the people who can't afford to do any of this... who also claim to support Leicester City. As Fez said right off the bat, it's not black and white... it's not even a variety of shades of grey. It's a giant fucking technicolour dreamcoat of fans, and if there's a certain colour you don't like, well that's just too bad. Out of curiosity mate why haven't you been to a game? I personally went from the sublime to the ridiculous. I went from going home and away for about 4 years, missing a handful of games and then missed quite a lot of the successful period under MON due to living in London and working as a retail manager which took care of my Saturdays. I`d still get to a minimum of 5-10 games a season during my lean spell but alot of that was when they played in London during the midweek as I was able to sneak off work to get there . Thankfully now I am working for myself the plan is to get to a lot more games.
Thracian Posted 17 August 2007 Posted 17 August 2007 I imagine there are lots of hospitalised fans who would love to attend matches, others who live away and still more who simply cannot afford it. On the other hand part of being a real fan involves saving or working especially to raise the cash, juggling other commitments, making sacrifices, not copping out when its bucketing down and so on. To me, if you're not prepared to do those things then, bar earlier things I've mentioned, you're not likely to be considered a genuine supporter. In my experience the difficulties are part of the fun and the more you put into being a fan the more you get out of it. It's easy to stand on the outside and say the expense of a trip to Burnley or Accrington on a miserable midweek night is not worth it. But there no way you can put a value on the comeraderie, the special moments you'd perhaps never see on television or hear about on the radio , the pre-match banter in the pub, the visits to places and grounds you'd never go to otherwise and so much more. You really could write a book on why its worth being a football team follower. Win or Lose. And whatever the reasons, people who don't watch their club miss out on all that.
Webbo Posted 17 August 2007 Posted 17 August 2007 Who are we to judge. IMO a fan is someone who is depressed till Wednesday if you lose on Saturday and is like a dog with 2 c0cks if we win. If Walkers says he a fan that's good enough for me, but really you should try and get down there if you can, win or lose you can't beat it.
lookwhaticando Posted 17 August 2007 Posted 17 August 2007 Out of curiosity mate why haven't you been to a game? I always got shat on by circumstance. When I got into football and picked a team, I picked the team I believed to be my local one - being born in Leicestershire, City was the obvious choice. But at this time, I was actually living in Derbyshire and was the only person I knew who supported Leicester. My parents don't support anyone or anyone in particular. Nobody else in my family, my circle of friends or my school supported Leicester (they were all Derby or Man U fans, naturally). I had nobody to go to the game with, and nobody willing to take me (aged 10 to 14). Then we moved further south (Daventry, Northants) where I found myself in ever more alien footballing territory - other fans were to be found from all sorts of clubs (Villa, Everton, Southampton, Sheffield: U & W, etc etc) but still no Leicester. Once again, I was stuck. Aged 16, in the summer of 2001... we moved to Canada - 3,400 miles away from Leicester - which says all you need to know about my more recent inability to get to a game, despite no longer needing someone to take me/go with me. So... 12 years on, still no game. I intend to fix this little fact before year 13... watch this space. Essay (repeat).
Floating Fox Posted 17 August 2007 Posted 17 August 2007 Out of curiosity mate why haven't you been to a game? I personally went from the sublime to the ridiculous. I went from going home and away for about 4 years, missing a handful of games and then missed quite a lot of the successful period under MON due to living in London and working as a retail manager which took care of my Saturdays. I`d still get to a minimum of 5-10 games a season during my lean spell but alot of that was when they played in London during the midweek as I was able to sneak off work to get there . Thankfully now I am working for myself the plan is to get to a lot more games. You had to ask him didn't you. Que a LWICD Biography :P
Lillehamring Posted 17 August 2007 Posted 17 August 2007 Oi!I want a f'cking group for those of us poor bastards that have actually had to suffer watching City. Where's my damn group, huh? Huh? ok ok - we can start the Dagger's Union of Miserable Bastards Forced Unapolegetically to Continue to Keep Supporting.... and i think any long term city fan would be proud to admit being a member of this group.... mmmm, acronyms!
MPH Posted 17 August 2007 Posted 17 August 2007 You can be a fan, but not a proper one. to me a proper fan is someone who loves his team through thick and thin no matter what.....
Head Honcho Posted 17 August 2007 Posted 17 August 2007 Well I've been a fan for as long as I can remember, rarely missed a match home and away for ten years and didn't miss one match home and away over a five year period. I don't get to as many as I would like to these days. So I must be an ex-genuine fan Of course you can be a fan without going to the games-when I was a kid everyone in my class supported city but very few could afford to go or get their parents to let them go-doesn't mean they weren't real fans!
Raj Posted 18 August 2007 Posted 18 August 2007 Good one this!!! Where i work we have theses sorts of 'fans'.... Liverpool -Never been to see them home or away Man Utd- been to away games(ie Leicester!!!) but never to Old Trafford. Forest-used to go,when they were good!!! Real Madrid-Never been...!!!...just cos Becks was there!!! IMHO a fan goes to alot of games. A supporter doesn't goto many. A Follower doesn't go to any but does listen to them on the radio or follows the results on teletext/sky Armchair supporter doesn't goto any games,changes his team depending on who is top,and thinks he knows everything about football See...simple!!!!!
Geo V Posted 18 August 2007 Posted 18 August 2007 Essay (repeat). I missed that one. Fair enough I suppose but if you was a real fan you would fly over weekly from Canada to watch your team. OK it might cost you about £700 a week but it would be worth it
Nick Posted 18 August 2007 Posted 18 August 2007 Right this thread has got my goat a little bit. AND I WANT MY GOAT BACK. It's hard enough being a red penguin, constantly facing adversity without someone noncing off with your trotters. Anyway : In order to measure how true/genuine/committed a fan someone is - is very tough. It's a measure of emotion. It's not a measure of knowledge, action or geography. ( If it was about who smiled at who during a training session, Thrac would be deemed the most passionate/loyal/genuine of us all. ) I know people who didn't visit their parents that much, they didn't know all the medical ins and outs of their plights and were gutted when they passed away. Does this mean they didn't genuinely love them? I know people who grew up supporting Leicester but never got taken to a game by their families. They listened on the radio and they read the news - they couldn't afford it anyway. At school they would pretend they went so the other kids thought they were 'genuine' fans. I know blokes who don't really know what the wife's job description is and has never been to her workplace, but would run through a burning building to piss on her if she was on fire (sorry are my examples getting worse?) How do you measure feeling and emotion? Walkers has 5,000 odd posts on here - though he's not been to a game. Maybe he couldn't tell you the next five fixtures, so what? Can you tell me that this bit of information means he doesn't love his footballclub and is not a genuine fan? Going to games is an honour. I work with kids who have never had the opportunity to go to games and I go down to the walkers and watch with them every few matches, when the community team kindly give them some free tickets. If, 'posters', games were a quid to get in, if our team was on the tv every time they played, mediums such as this may not be as popular because you will notice that some passionate fans use this resource to obtain information about their football club from those who were at the games or at the training ground. If you need to go to the game to be a true fan - why are you not on your way to Palace. I'm not going today. I'm gonna listen on't'radio. I'll probably chat on line with some of you and when people get back from the game I'll want to know their thoughts on what they saw - as they will have a wider and different perspective on what I only heard. But this will have no bearing on how genuine/true/loyal fan I am. Oh are they my trotters, I'll be having them back thanks. N.
lookwhaticando Posted 18 August 2007 Posted 18 August 2007 I missed that one. Fair enough I suppose but if you was a real fan you would fly over weekly from Canada to watch your team. OK it might cost you about £700 a week but it would be worth it On last season's showing, I beg to differ. Would just one 6,800 mile round trip make me a 'real' fan, you think?
Brainy Posted 18 August 2007 Author Posted 18 August 2007 In your case Walkers I wouldn't call you a fan, you just like to see Leiester do well Im not having that. Who are you to tell me what I am and what i'm not? I've never said "I can't be fcked to go to a Leicester game"
Raj Posted 18 August 2007 Posted 18 August 2007 On last season's showing, I beg to differ. Would just one 6,800 mile round trip make me a 'real' fan, you think? NO!
davieG Posted 18 August 2007 Posted 18 August 2007 Well anyone that had the balls to admit to being Leicester City fan over the last 3 years must be a fan or stupid.
Zingari Posted 18 August 2007 Posted 18 August 2007 ok ok - we can start the Dagger's Union of Miserable Bastards Forced Unapolegetically to Continue to Keep Supporting....and i think any long term city fan would be proud to admit being a member of this group.... mmmm, acronyms! qotw contender
Daggers Posted 18 August 2007 Posted 18 August 2007 ok ok - we can start the Dagger's Union of Miserable Bastards Forced Unapolegetically to Continue to Keep Supporting....and i think any long term city fan would be proud to admit being a member of this group.... mmmm, acronyms! Duombfutctks? Is that Norse?
Ben Posted 18 August 2007 Posted 18 August 2007 If you've never been to watch your team play I don't think you can call yourself a supporter, but I think you could still perhaps say you were a fan if you know what I'm saying.
Joe. Posted 19 August 2007 Posted 19 August 2007 Im not having that. Who are you to tell me what I am and what i'm not?I've never said "I can't be fcked to go to a Leicester game" :laugh: I'm not telling you what you are. I'm telling you what I think you are.
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