Ipod Touch

[lildave3]

I thought Bill Gates owned iTunes

No, he's Microsoft.

[Dames]

No, he's Microsoft.

I'm sure Microsoft has a stake in apple now aswell.

Thats why Windows are on MaCs now.

[Alexikokopops]

Don't store 5 gig of photos on a music player, get an external and move your computer.

I'm not moving my computer which I never use except as a storage for music and photos to Uni with me, because it will just sit in the corner of my room.

What's the point in spending god knows how much on an external hard drive just for storing 5 gig of photos (as a backup) when I can fit my 20 gig of music and 5 gig of photos quite happily on my 30 gig iPod.

Hell, I don't even know why I'm arguing this, I don't even want an iPod Touch.

Anyway, I'm a loose cannon, I can't plan what albums I need to listen to in advance.

I need all that space for when I get a random urge to listen to an a cappella version of the Gummi Bears Theme Tune, or a trance version of the Fur Elise

I thought Bill Gates owned iTunes

Here's a clue... Apple iPod.

Apple and Microsoft are kinda rival companies you know.

[Dr The Singh]

Not really a 'gadget freak' but i will buy one if the neccessity arises..........but it looks good and i'n sure will be good, but my current mp3 player is fine!!!

[potter3]

I'm sure Microsoft has a stake in apple now aswell.

Thats why Windows are on MaCs now.

Windows can run on Macs now because they're using an Intel processor rather than an IBM one

[Joe.]

Looks nice but I won't be buying one. I refuse to pay ipod prices when there are equally as good mp3 players on the market for a good deal cheaper.

[Alexikokopops]

Looks nice but I won't be buying one. I refuse to pay ipod prices when there are equally as good mp3 players on the market for a good deal cheaper.

But the iPod looks pretty.

That's all that matters to me.

Plus I have this bad boy

[lookwhaticando]

Touch is a great idea, but seriously, it's not that bleedin' difficult to spin a click wheel is it?

It's a gadget and whilst I am the most gullible person in the world for a gadget, you gotta stick to the old adage of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".

Of course it's not difficult to spin a click wheel... that's not the point. You don't leave something alone just because the current iteration is "not difficult" to use. Any company worth its salt improves its products all the time - at least to stay ahead of the competition, if not to improve the lives of the customers.

Apple had already produced a new product (iPhone) which had a touch screen and wifi connectivity... it was only going to be a matter of time before someone else made a phone or mp3 player with a touch screen. Apple did the sensible thing and got there first. Not because the current click wheel isn't good enough... but because the touch screen is better.

You have to remember that this new product isn't aimed at existing customers... it's designed to expand the appeal of the iPod range and rope a few more new customers in. Some people might be on the look out for a new mp3 player with wifi connectivity... this might finally be the product that entices them over to Apple.

No, he's Microsoft.

I'm sure Microsoft has a stake in apple now aswell.

Thats why Windows are on MaCs now.

Windows can run on Macs now because they're using an Intel processor rather than an IBM one

lol lol

For a start... Microsoft bought a stake in Apple back in 1997 - it paid $150m. It bought shares without voting rights... so it had no power to sway the direction of Apple. It later sold off this stake for a tidy profit. Microsoft's current holding in Apple Inc is 0%.

Windows has been on Apple computers for many years now... at least the last 5 years, in an emulation mode.

Windows as a fully bootable stand-alone operating system was made possible by the switch from the PowerPC architecture (by IBM) to the new Intel powered chips. This had absolutely nothing to do with Microsoft - how could it? Apple didn't originally intend to market the new Intel iMacs as being able to run Windows... but plenty of people spotted the potential and set about making it happen. There was even an online competition fund for the first person to successfully run Windows as an operating system on an Intel iMac - the winner scooped a total donated prize of around $14,000 if I'm not mistaken.

When people had shown that it could be done (Apple knew it could, it just didn't want to acknowledge it at first) interest in Windows on an iMac was heightened... and it was a concept that had potential. One problem with OS X is that there's a lot of Windows powered software that has no equivalent in OS X, making it hard to do everything with a Mac that can be done in Windows... Hence Windows used to be able to be run in emulation mode on a mac... so a Mac owner wouldn't be completely without Windows functionality, without having to own another machine.

Apple thus released Boot Camp to make it possible to properly install Windows alongside OS X (and making it easier to do) to broaden the appeal of an Apple computer further still.

[Alexikokopops]

Of course it's not difficult to spin a click wheel... that's not the point. You don't leave something alone just because the current iteration is "not difficult" to use. Any company worth its salt improves its products all the time - at least to stay ahead of the competition, if not to improve the lives of the customers.

Apple had already produced a new product (iPhone) which had a touch screen and wifi connectivity... it was only going to be a matter of time before someone else made a phone or mp3 player with a touch screen. Apple did the sensible thing and got there first. Not because the current click wheel isn't good enough... but because the touch screen is better.

You have to remember that this new product isn't aimed at existing customers... it's designed to expand the appeal of the iPod range and rope a few more new customers in. Some people might be on the look out for a new mp3 player with wifi connectivity... this might finally be the product that entices them over to Apple.

lol lol

For a start... Microsoft bought a stake in Apple back in 1997 - it paid $150m. It bought shares without voting rights... so it had no power to sway the direction of Apple. It later sold off this stake for a tidy profit. Microsoft's current holding in Apple Inc is 0%.

Windows has been on Apple computers for many years now... at least the last 5 years, in an emulation mode.

Windows as a fully bootable stand-alone operating system was made possible by the switch from the PowerPC architecture (by IBM) to the new Intel powered chips. This had absolutely nothing to do with Microsoft - how could it? Apple didn't originally intend to market the new Intel iMacs as being able to run Windows... but plenty of people spotted the potential and set about making it happen. There was even an online competition fund for the first person to successfully run Windows as an operating system on an Intel iMac - the winner scooped a total donated prize of around $14,000 if I'm not mistaken.

When people had shown that it could be done (Apple knew it could, it just didn't want to acknowledge it at first) interest in Windows on an iMac was heightened... and it was a concept that had potential. One problem with OS X is that there's a lot of Windows powered software that has no equivalent in OS X, making it hard to do everything with a Mac that can be done in Windows... Hence Windows used to be able to be run in emulation mode on a mac... so a Mac owner wouldn't be completely without Windows functionality, without having to own another machine.

Apple thus released Boot Camp to make it possible to properly install Windows alongside OS X (and making it easier to do) to broaden the appeal of an Apple computer further still.

Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerd!!

[Kent Fox]

Of course it's not difficult to spin a click wheel... that's not the point. You don't leave something alone just because the current iteration is "not difficult" to use. Any company worth its salt improves its products all the time - at least to stay ahead of the competition, if not to improve the lives of the customers.

Apple had already produced a new product (iPhone) which had a touch screen and wifi connectivity... it was only going to be a matter of time before someone else made a phone or mp3 player with a touch screen. Apple did the sensible thing and got there first. Not because the current click wheel isn't good enough... but because the touch screen is better.

You have to remember that this new product isn't aimed at existing customers... it's designed to expand the appeal of the iPod range and rope a few more new customers in. Some people might be on the look out for a new mp3 player with wifi connectivity... this might finally be the product that entices them over to Apple.

lol lol

I realise that this is aimed at non-existing users, but my point remains. You say any company will improve it's product. For me, a small memory touch screen is not an improvement on a 160GB click wheel.

I'd also guess that within 6 months, it will probably be different again, i.e. have bluetooth.

However, given the choice, I would rather have the newer 160GB click wheel version than the touch screen with a smaller memory.

And those screens will be a bugger to keep clean.

The iPhone has not had the best reviews in the world and I think that this will go a similar way, given that there is a 160GB click version to compare it to.

I am a BIG apple fan - I like what they are doing and the appeal they are generating. But, for now, this ain't for me. I do like the look of the new nano - very appealing.

Size does matter.

Apparently.

[potter3]

Of course it's not difficult to spin a click wheel... that's not the point. You don't leave something alone just because the current iteration is "not difficult" to use. Any company worth its salt improves its products all the time - at least to stay ahead of the competition, if not to improve the lives of the customers.

Apple had already produced a new product (iPhone) which had a touch screen and wifi connectivity... it was only going to be a matter of time before someone else made a phone or mp3 player with a touch screen. Apple did the sensible thing and got there first. Not because the current click wheel isn't good enough... but because the touch screen is better.

You have to remember that this new product isn't aimed at existing customers... it's designed to expand the appeal of the iPod range and rope a few more new customers in. Some people might be on the look out for a new mp3 player with wifi connectivity... this might finally be the product that entices them over to Apple.

For a start... Microsoft bought a stake in Apple back in 1997 - it paid $150m. It bought shares without voting rights... so it had no power to sway the direction of Apple. It later sold off this stake for a tidy profit. Microsoft's current holding in Apple Inc is 0%.

Windows has been on Apple computers for many years now... at least the last 5 years, in an emulation mode.

Windows as a fully bootable stand-alone operating system was made possible by the switch from the PowerPC architecture (by IBM) to the new Intel powered chips. This had absolutely nothing to do with Microsoft - how could it? Apple didn't originally intend to market the new Intel iMacs as being able to run Windows... but plenty of people spotted the potential and set about making it happen. There was even an online competition fund for the first person to successfully run Windows as an operating system on an Intel iMac - the winner scooped a total donated prize of around $14,000 if I'm not mistaken.

When people had shown that it could be done (Apple knew it could, it just didn't want to acknowledge it at first) interest in Windows on an iMac was heightened... and it was a concept that had potential. One problem with OS X is that there's a lot of Windows powered software that has no equivalent in OS X, making it hard to do everything with a Mac that can be done in Windows... Hence Windows used to be able to be run in emulation mode on a mac... so a Mac owner wouldn't be completely without Windows functionality, without having to own another machine.

Apple thus released Boot Camp to make it possible to properly install Windows alongside OS X (and making it easier to do) to broaden the appeal of an Apple computer further still.

Oh, sorry

[MC Prussian]

I've just ordered the 80GB iPod Classic with personalized engraving. Bargain - compared to the regular iPod Nano.

:w00t:

What I need the 80GB for? It's a great external hard drive - especially when filmmakers like me need to carry raw footage around.

[Tommeh]

Aftet looking closer at the touch, it does appear to be a big rip off especially with the memory and like others have said the wheel is simple to use anyway.

I quite fancy a black nano 8gb for the size and style but the classic looks great value too especially the 80gb although it would be slightly bigger, tough decision. Whchever I go for they will be good value as previous 8gb' nano's were £160 and 80gb were well over £200

[lookwhaticando]

I realise that this is aimed at non-existing users, but my point remains. You say any company will improve it's product. For me, a small memory touch screen is not an improvement on a 160GB click wheel.

It's a moot point, actually...

Touch hasn't changed anything... Touch has merely expanded the product line. The original iPod remains, so those who want a huge hard drive can still get one.

Touch isn't improving on anything, really... it's a new product to be sold alongside existing ones. It's an improvement in the fact that it's going to be easier to use (mostly because of the wifi connectivity, but partly down to the touch screen too) than existing iPods... but it's not an improvement in the sense that it's replacing something entirely (which is what I was referring to when I suggested it was an 'improvement').

Some people won't want Touch because it's not got a big enough drive... that's fine, they can still buy the bigger iPod classic.

[Babylon]

It's a moot point, actually...

Touch hasn't changed anything... Touch has merely expanded the product line. The original iPod remains, so those who want a huge hard drive can still get one.

Touch isn't improving on anything, really... it's a new product to be sold alongside existing ones. It's an improvement in the fact that it's going to be easier to use (mostly because of the wifi connectivity, but partly down to the touch screen too) than existing iPods... but it's not an improvement in the sense that it's replacing something entirely (which is what I was referring to when I suggested it was an 'improvement').

Some people won't want Touch because it's not got a big enough drive... that's fine, they can still buy the bigger iPod classic.

I love you.... your last few posts in this thread just saved me so much time!!!!!

[lookwhaticando]

I love you.... your last few posts in this thread just saved me so much time!!!!!

[Smudge]

I've just ordered the 80GB iPod Classic with personalized engraving. Bargain - compared to the regular iPod Nano.

:w00t:

What I need the 80GB for? It's a great external hard drive - especially when filmmakers like me need to carry raw footage around.

Very sensible, I only want to listen to quality sound. MP3 is crap, it has 10% of the information of a CD. The only way to listen to almost CD quality is in mp4 or lossless.