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:rolleyes:

No, what cost us two points is 3 midfielders running past the ball trying to attack, leaving no-one goal side but the defense allowing Leigertwood to pick his spot and grab a point for Rangers. Or maybe I imagined all of that?

I'm not saying sit back and invite pressure but we we're comfortably defending our lead until that one mistake where we were caught up field and then we capitulated. It was a quality shot and if it went wide we'd be sitting here in 5th place, and many on here would be saying how great it was to win 1-0.

Oh, and, I would have made exactly the same substitutions, except I would have brought de Vries on for Cort just after we scored.

So you would have given open house to their fullbacks?

We were left with 6 defensive players and one knackered striker on the pitch, after the subs we were camped in our own half because we had no outlet other than Hume. Kish and Campbell never crossed the halfway line when we had possession. It was football suicide.

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So you would have given open house to their fullbacks?

We were left with 6 defensive players and one knackered striker on the pitch, after the subs we were camped in our own half because we had no outlet other than Hume. Kish and Campbell never crossed the halfway line when we had possession. It was football suicide.

Its always the case with Leicester.

Would you have it any other way ? :P

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They we're perfectly fine subsitutions. Porter was dreadful, and unfortunately Kishishev was worse!

I thought the Chambers one was also sensible as it should have allowed Hume to get in the game more, shame we we're defending most of the time.

I was the first to start the "Give Megson a chance" line on here and still continue to do so but what any manager must take is responsibility for his decisions. Time and time again we have seen sides who defend deeper or back off or even make defensively minded changes come a cropper and today was no different. Megson pulled off DJ who I thought was poor first half on about the 70 min mark despite him seemingly getting a rocket up his backside and infact started to fly in the second period. He then bought Kisha off for Levi which makes sense "on paper" as its a defensive midfielder for a wide player but the shape went a bit and worst of all, a player who is clearer not match-fit stays on the pitch for 90 mins when any manager with half a brain would have hauled off Cort for MDV with 60-70 mins on the clock as he was physically fooked.

I actually think that Megson was the main factor in turning a forward thinking side who had battered QPR a lifeline by going defensive. Had we continued to play as we were we may have scored a second or a third. Going defensive buggered things right up and we were in the end lucky to get a point.

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We don't have the players to play defensive.

They lack the disipline and concentration to do so.

I don't know about that. We have a solid back 5 if you include Fulop and a couple of strong midfielders who can play defensive. The problem that we have in games like today is we are not experts in playing the system that we do. Both Hume and Levi didn't play as disciplined wide men which then pulls other players in parts of the pitch that they shouldn't be as a regular.

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I was the first to start the "Give Megson a chance" line on here and still continue to do so but what any manager must take is responsibility for his decisions. Time and time again we have seen sides who defend deeper or back off or even make defensively minded changes come a cropper and today was no different. Megson pulled off DJ who I thought was poor first half on about the 70 min mark despite him seemingly getting a rocket up his backside and infact started to fly in the second period. He then bought Kisha off for Levi which makes sense "on paper" as its a defensive midfielder for a wide player but the shape went a bit and worst of all, a player who is clearer not match-fit stays on the pitch for 90 mins when any manager with half a brain would have hauled off Cort for MDV with 60-70 mins on the clock as he was physically fooked.

I actually think that Megson was the main factor in turning a forward thinking side who had battered QPR a lifeline by going defensive. Had we continued to play as we were we may have scored a second or a third. Going defensive buggered things right up and we were in the end lucky to get a point.

Correct.

The manager has clearly learned nothing from his failure at Forest.

But if he could teach his players to pass a football as well he can pass the buck, we'd have this league wrapped up by Christmas! lol

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Correct.

The manager has clearly learned nothing from his failure at Forest.

But if he could teach his players to pass a football as well he can pass the buck, we'd have this league wrapped up by Christmas! lol

Im sure Milan would have said to a manager like Megson, "lets win" and forget about the how we win. The thing is though, whether through fortune or great purchases, we actually have the basis of a real quality team for this level. Whether or not Megson decides to include the likes of Kaebi and Ferreira is to be seen but I really do feel we are better than most teams in this division and it will be a tragedy if the players cant turn that potential into points.

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Well Megson clearly failed in his aim. And the blame lies with no-one but himself.

It was HIS caution and negativity which cost us two home points against a weak QPR side who were there for the taking.

As for the claims of "potential" in our current squad, I'm not convinced. How many players did we see from yesterday's side who could do a job for us in the Premier League? Weso and maybe a couple of others, but that's all.

And I don't see Kaebi or Ferreira lasting the season with us because they're not this manager's type of player.

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So you would have given open house to their fullbacks?

We were left with 6 defensive players and one knackered striker on the pitch, after the subs we were camped in our own half because we had no outlet other than Hume. Kish and Campbell never crossed the halfway line when we had possession. It was football suicide.

Sorry but I can't remember the last time any team that was winning 1-0 made 3 attacking substitutions. Yes, de Vries should have come on a lot earlier but I'd rather put Chambers on instead of Newton, as he has the ability to defend.

Everyone would love it if we shoved on 6 attacking players and smashed in 3 or 4 more but it wasn't exactly going to happen was it?

However, it obviously didn't work yesterday so let's sack him.

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Sorry but I can't remember the last time any team that was winning 1-0 made 3 attacking substitutions. Yes, de Vries should have come on a lot earlier but I'd rather put Chambers on instead of Newton, as he has the ability to defend.

Everyone would love it if we shoved on 6 attacking players and smashed in 3 or 4 more but it wasn't exactly going to happen was it?

However, it obviously didn't work yesterday so let's sack him.

There was no need to put defensive players on though was there? We were looking fairly good until we scored, then lost some impetus and then Megson (or whoever) goes and takes off two attacking players and puts on defensive players. What sort of impression does that create?

It was clear the substitutions were meant to enable us to hang on to a 1-0 lead and that's the sort of defensively rubbish tactics that we've endured for the last 2 years. It didn't work under Levein and Kelly and it ain't gonna work under Megson. Once QPR scored we'd shot ourselves in the foot because we had no attacking players except for a knackered Cort and Hume - great tactics that was. :angry:

The sooner managers realise that hanging onto 1-0 leads at home to relegation fodder isn't the answer, the better for all concerned.

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"There were a lot of young players out there who are good players, but they don't know the game. They don't know how to go and win. This club has been flirting with relegation for the last four seasons. What we have got to do is get a team out there that knows how to win.

That's true, so hopefully he'll teach them what it is like to win :thumbup:

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Sorry but I can't remember the last time any team that was winning 1-0 made 3 attacking substitutions. Yes, de Vries should have come on a lot earlier but I'd rather put Chambers on instead of Newton, as he has the ability to defend. Everyone would love it if we shoved on 6 attacking players and smashed in 3 or 4 more but it wasn't exactly going to happen was it?However, it obviously didn't work yesterday so let's sack him.
Who on earth has asked for 6 attacking players, we didn't need extra defenders we need a more lively out field. I wasn't even expecting more goals but the simple truth is his substitutions made us worse not better or even the same.Replacing Cort with MDV, pushing Hume forward and replacing Campbell with Newton, and I'm not a big fan of his would have kept the same shape. By pushing Kish into midfield he just upset the equlibrium there and as for Campbell either use him to replace N'Gotty, who was having a stinker or leave well alone.Megson fooked it up which is I guess forgivable, well if it's just this one game but then to accuse the players of a lack of intelligence is taking the piss.
That's true, so hopefully he'll teach them what it is like to win :thumbup:
So list this 'lots' of young players.
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Fine substitutions? They were ridiculous and cost us two points.

There was time and chances a-plenty to put that game well out of reach before anyone started tinkering. This is what will stop us from going up. Shame, because the team managed to be more ruthless against Watford, which means that they are capable.

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There was time and chances a-plenty to put that game well out of reach before anyone started tinkering. This is what will stop us from going up. Shame, because the team managed to be more ruthless against Watford, which means that they are capable.

To be fair we should of scored more & i still haven't seen if the two disallowed goals should have been!

But before the tactical & personal switches we were still attacking & looking comfortable & the only team that looked like scoring was us.

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To be fair we should of scored more & i still haven't seen if the two disallowed goals should have been!

But before the tactical & personal switches we were still attacking & looking comfortable & the only team that looked like scoring was us.

Looking and actually doing it are two different things (can I have a prize for stating the obvious?).

How many more times are we going to see City create chances and yet score nothing, only to then have some goal out of nowhere take points off of us?

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There was time and chances a-plenty to put that game well out of reach before anyone started tinkering. This is what will stop us from going up. Shame, because the team managed to be more ruthless against Watford, which means that they are capable.

I have long said we will not score enough goals this season with our current personnel. There will be a shortfall from our centre-forwards, from the flanks and from midfield.

But yesterday's points were lost because we tactically adjusted the game and invited pressure onto our never perfect back line, with predictable results.

Yes it would be nice if we concentrated for 90 minutes on scoring the goals necessary to gain promotion but we're bound to have 1-0's to defend because we don't have enough potency in enough positions.

But the best way of defending is to quell attacks at source, not to concede ground and hope to frustrate the opposition.

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I'm not even going to start. His post-match comments just really rubbed me up the wrong way- he's got a way to go to even come close to satisfying me.

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There was time and chances a-plenty to put that game well out of reach before anyone started tinkering. This is what will stop us from going up. Shame, because the team managed to be more ruthless against Watford, which means that they are capable.

yeah, but sooooo many people on this board are soooooo unhappy that megson came, that this is the perfect opportunity to feel smug and walk around saying 'told you he was shit'.

according to most people on here, MM was outrageous for only giving MA a few games, yet are now happily writing megson off after a couple of days. there are so many reasons why we only drew this game, the substitutions just one of them... but it makes this lot happy to feel that megson is shit and that's all they want...

bizarre.

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yeah, but sooooo many people on this board are soooooo unhappy that megson came, that this is the perfect opportunity to feel smug and walk around saying 'told you he was shit'.

according to most people on here, MM was outrageous for only giving MA a few games, yet are now happily writing megson off after a couple of days. there are so many reasons why we only drew this game, the substitutions just one of them... but it makes this lot happy to feel that megson is shit and that's all they want...

bizarre.

If you think I feel happy that our performance yesterday was shit then you're either not very bright or you're simply out to prove your point, regardless of the evidence.

I take absolutely no delight in it at all.

You're entitled to your opinion; I just find it hard to stomach all this high and mighty crap when you weren't even there.

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If you think I feel happy that our performance yesterday was shit then you're either not very bright or you're simply out to prove your point, regardless of the evidence.

I take absolutely no delight in it at all.

You're entitled to your opinion; I just find it hard to stomach all this high and mighty crap when you weren't even there.

Woah, where the fu(k did that come from!!!!!

i'm not being 'high and mighty' i'm being impartial and openminded... i accept that the substitutions (which may or may not have been dictated by megson) didn't have a positive effect, what manager hasn't got it wrong once in a while, but given how long megson has been here, that on another day it could have been 3-1 (not including the woodwork attempts) to just sit and say (and A LOT of people, can't remember your own observations) 'oh well, it's all megsons fault, if we'd have made no substitutions we'd have won' is crazy... no single thing determines a football result, everyone knows that.

i couldn't care less whether you are happy or not, i don't know what motivates your sense of satisfaction, but for PEOPLE IN GENERAL to simply blame megson for yesterdays performance (which, by many accounts wasn't so bad, i mean last year we'd have been happy just to have shots on target) i find bizarre, and it seems to stem from the fact that a lot of people seem to actually want megson to fail just cause they don't like him... again, bizarre.

and, as for my presence at the game, reading the narrow-minded, one-track, paranoid pessimism produced by many who WERE THERE, i think my observations on the season as a whole are probably more balanced and less judgemental than those who are balancing their opinion against their begrudging of buying a season ticket...

it was one game, we're unbeaten in five, we have players that piss all over last years squad, a draw against QPR isn't a catastophe, and it has as much to do with the players on the field as it does the manager....

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