Formula 1 Thread

[Jimmy]

the sooner the other 9 teams form that breakaway series the better IMO, let Ferrari and the FIA continue to suck each other off in private

[Brainy]

I wonder if Kimi hadn't crashed and instead finished in the points, would he have been penalised for using the run-off area to gain extra speed?

[Father Ted]

Look at this:

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[isaidno]

It's the FIA's , sorry Ferrari's home race on sunday

[Jimmy]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=sPZmZzasDEw

Well we all missed this one.

[isaidno]

There's rumours going round that Fernando Alonso has signed a 3 year contract at BMW Sauber, replacing Nick Heidfeld next season

[The Stig]

There's rumours going round that Fernando Alonso has signed a 3 year contract at BMW Sauber, replacing Nick Heidfeld next season

Would be a great move for both parties. Nick hasn't delivered this season.

[Brainy]

Kimi's signed a new contract 'till 2010

[Asha]

Kimi's signed a new contract 'till 2010

[Father Ted]

There's rumours going round that Fernando Alonso has signed a 3 year contract at BMW Sauber, replacing Nick Heidfeld next season

I would not like that one bit!

[Asha]

I would not like that one bit!

Any reason mate?

Personally, I think Alonso is still one of the best drivers and the sport benefits from him being in more of a competitive car, providing he's not being a twat.

[Brainy]

Any reason mate?

Personally, I think Alonso is still one of the best drivers and the sport benefits from him being in more of a competitive car, providing he's not being a twat.

Yeah, I love his driving style even though he does go a bit OTT at times, but he's the biggest twat on the grid.

[Father Ted]

Any reason mate?

Personally, I think Alonso is still one of the best drivers and the sport benefits from him being in more of a competitive car, providing he's not being a twat.

Alonso is a moron and I also really rate Heidfeld and if given time with Kubica, Heidfeld and Kubica could take BMW to great places...

[Asha]

Alonso is a moron and I also really rate Heidfeld and if given time with Kubica, Heidfeld and Kubica could take BMW to great places...

I think Kubica is pretty special but I think BMW can do better than Heidfeld.

Just my opinion though.

[Asha]

Jesus, Vettel on pole.

Raikkonen 14th, Hamilton 15th.

Record-breaking Vettel puts Toro Rosso on pole at Monza

Red Bull teams nearly locked out the front two rows of the grid for the Italian Grand Prix, as Toro Rosso’s Sebastian Vettel became Formula One’s youngest-ever polesitter in appalling weather conditions at Monza on Saturday.

It began to rain heavily with 15 minutes to go before the start of qualifying, and after the McLarens of Heikki Kovalainen and Lewis Hamilton set the pace in Q1, 21 year-old Vettel took over in Q2.

That session proved to be Hamilton’s undoing. After an exploratory run on inappropriate standard wet tyres - extreme-wets were the way to go throughout the hour - he just didn’t get his McLaren up to speed and ended it 15th on 1m 39.265s. He was not alone, however. A spin prevented BMW Sauber’s Robert Kubica from bettering 1m 36.697s which left him 11th and the first to fall, and behind Force India’s Giancarlo Fisichella (1m 36.698s) and Red Bull’s David Coulthard (1m 37.284s), Kimi Raikkonen languished 14th on 1m 37.522s for Ferrari.

Vettel made no mistakes in Q3, consistently outrunning his competition, even though corners such as Ascari were so wet that aquaplaning caught out many. The German pushed his STR3 round in 1m 37.555s, and though Kovalainen managed 1m 37.632s, it was not enough.

Behind them, Mark Webber’s final lap for Red Bull jumped him up to third on 1m 38.117s, pushing Red Bull stablemate Sebastien Bourdais down a place to fourth in the second Toro Rosso, on 1m 38.445s. The Frenchman was lucky to get away with a spin exiting Ascari.

Reflecting the highly unusual nature of this grid, Nico Rosberg was fifth for Williams on 1m 38.767s, ahead of Felipe Massa’s Ferrari, in which the Brazilian could not better 1m 38.894s.

The Toyotas of Jarno Trulli and Timo Glock sandwiched Fernando Alonso’s Renault, the Italian lapping in 1m 39.152s, the Spaniard in 1m 39.751s and the German 1m 39.787s. Nick Heidfeld, who spun in Q1, completed the top 10 with 1m 39.906s for BMW Sauber.

Behind Kubica, Fisichella, Coulthard, Raikkonen and Hamilton, Rubens Barrichello was 16th for Honda on 1m 36.510s ahead of Renault’s Nelson Piquet (1m 36.630s), Williams’ Kazuki Nakajima (1m 36.653s), Honda’s Jenson Button (1m 37.006s) and Force India’s Adrian Sutil (1m 37.417s).

With more rain possible for Sunday, a fantastic race is in prospect as Vettel and co seek to capitalise on their performances, as Kubica, Raikkonen and Hamilton do everything they can to overcome their tribulations.

[Brainy]

Tomorrow should be good, I just hope Lewis doesnt push too hard for the first few laps.

[SamL]

Well McLaren really messed that one up didn't they?

To be honest, I can see Lewis overtaking a few people off the start line and possibly getting involved in an accident. I'm predicting that Kovalainen will overtake Vettel at the start as well.

It's nice to see the Toro Rosso's doing well recently.

[Tilley]

I don't think Hamilton will even finish.

[Asha]

I don't think Hamilton will even finish.

Hamilton and Raikkonen will have a 'coming together'.

And Hamilton will be docked 12 points and have to start with only 3 wheels next race.

[Brainy]

He's only failed to finish 2 races out of 30, although they were when the pressure was getting to him.

Hamilton and Raikkonen will have a 'coming together'.

And Hamilton will be docked 12 points and have to start with only 3 wheels next race.

Most likely

[Jimmy]

he won't be overtaking anyone at the start, seems to be heading for a Safety Car 1st lap

[Tilley]

Hamilton has done pretty well so far.

[Brainy]

Vettel's moving to what looks to be a slower car next season too

[Jimmy]

Vettel's moving to what looks to be a slower car next season too

it's basically the same car, just have different engines

[The Stig]

Great race, astounding drive from Vettell, quite possibly champion of the future. Well done Hammilton, aggressive but fair driving and got to feel for Bourdais.