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stevie909

when dj returns is that it for fryatt?

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Majority of Leicester fans are the most narrow minded people on the face of this planet. Some of the comments about the little precious over rated Hume are laughable.

I would try and argue most of the posts in here but I feel it would be waste of time.

Unbelievable

You're still yet to provide evidence with why Iain Hume is over-rated. His record in a crap team for the past 2 and a half seasons is admirable, nuff said.

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Im not sure whether its just Leicester fans to be honest though mate.

Most football fans seem to follow the trend and because Humey did well a couple of years ago and has done OK since, he will always be seen as some kind of saviour when to be fair he has done no more than OK. People seem to jump on the bandwaggon, especially those who don't actually go to the games and if someone says that Hume is god and Stearman is shite they`ll naturally agree but it`ll be no different with fans from other teams.

I see what you are saying.

But what mystifies me, is that people come on various forums and post exactly what the next person said. It's like, I know i'll go on the internet and post something about Hume being the best player at Leicester for the 100th time! Why?

I’ve to the conclusion why it is people in the Leicester crowd like him so much. It’s all about blurting out HUUMMMMEE like some kind of deranged cow. I sit there a games observing and thinking this is what most people here seem to enjoy most about going, is doing the HUUMMMME thing. It’s hilarious, even if he scuffs a shot or mis-controls the ball fans still try to get a sneaky HUUMMME in there anyway.

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I see what you are saying.

But what mystifies me, is that people come on various forums and post exactly what the next person said. It's like, I know i'll go on the internet and post something about Hume being the best player at Leicester for the 100th time! Why?

I’ve to the conclusion why it is people in the Leicester crowd like him so much. It’s all about blurting out HUUMMMMEE like some kind of deranged cow. I sit there a games observing and thinking this is what most people here seem to enjoy most about going, is doing the HUUMMMME thing. It’s hilarious, even if he scuffs a shot or mis-controls the ball fans still try to get a sneaky HUUMMME in there anyway.

Its the same reason why people rate Paul Dickov and alike, its work rate. However as well as chasing balls from all over the pitch Hume does score some wonderful goals and his strike rate in a shite and under-performing side has on the whole been quite good.

I think when you look at it a little deeper our fans have been desperate for a fans favourite for ages as we have changed our squad so often that we haven't had anyone here long enough for us to have as a favourite! I think that too is one of the reasons why people go on a bit too much about him. Just look at our last line up and the team has changed so often that we have no heroes anymore!

Steve Walsh :cry:

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I'd like to see him play with the new players we now have behind him, if his goal scoreing record and consistency doesn't improve then fair enough get rid.

I don't see how that would change his physical capabilities and I also find it hard to see how he'd get in apart from as a substitute.

But do I assume then that you'd run his contract down or offer him an extension?

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Majority of Leicester fans are the most narrow minded people on the face of this planet. Some of the comments about the little precious over rated Hume are laughable.

I would try and argue most of the posts in here but I feel it would be waste of time.

Unbelievable

Hume is rated our best marksman because that's what he is, and what he was last season too, by some distance in both instances.

That's not overrating. That's fact.

Furthermore it is fact achieved when often being asked to play a midfield role and in a lousy side that was supplying little in terms of created opportunities from central midfield or the wings.

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Now is the time to see whether Hume's inconsistency was down to the awful sides he's been a part of or his level of ability. It is frustrating when fans applaud poor play but you can't argue with his goal record especially given the appallingly low amount of clear chances created for him. The bottom line is that you need a strike partnership that offer everything you need between two strikers. Howard offers strength, height and the ability to hold the ball up - and actually from the last three games looks a really good linkup player too. Hume will be a livewire buzzing around just off him and the support from midfield will be invaluable in aiding that. Campbell will be an option in the same vein and the competition for places between the two of them should bring the best out of both. Fryatt, for me, is out the door. The bar has been raised and he'll end up somewhere like Barnsley scoring 10 goals a season.

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I like Fryatt, but I feel like the bar has been raised and will continue to be raised.

He'll be constantly playing catch up now.

Having said all this, it's all conjucture and irrelevance because it largely depends on Holloway's views.

He tends to like to have a lot of strikers on the books so I'd imagine, unless Fryatt makes noises about leaving, or we get an offer we can't refuse, he'll continue to be here in one capacity or another.

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Fryatt will most likely not be leaving in this transfer window and I'm sure he will get a few chances in the remaining games this season. He will be playing in a more attacking line-up and therefore for me, he has till the summer to prove he is good enough. When he comes on or starts, he must score goals, It's as simple as that. There has been too many excuses for some of these players, Fryatt more than anyone I think. Now is the time to start shining in training and forcing his way to play some part in the next half of the season. If he doesn't, then I can see him leaving for a league 1 side in the summer for 300k or even less, shame after the all the support he's had over his time here. NOW IS THE TIME FRYATT!!! DO IT!! Become the Sheringham of Leicester!

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Unless someone want's to move I think they're all here until the summer at least. Ollie likes lots of strikers - Fact (firdt time i've ever done that :D )

If we get to a position where we are safe from relegation and the play-offs are out of the question :rolleyes: then I'd like to see us try some combinations up front, with the improved midfield that doesn't include Howard, Hume/DJ; Hume/Fryatt; DJ/Fryatt just to see if we are capable of playing the game on the deck.

Posted

Hume would be a good player to bring off the bench for the last 15 minutes if we were drawing and looking to win the match. He could come on run his socks off for that time period and hopefully contribute to the team scoring. But Hume still has a lot to prove, and i only I feel if he fails to start scoring he could find himself being replaced at the end of the season.

Fryatt is a complete waste of space. So the sooner he's gone the better.

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We have Howard, Hume, DJ, Hayles, Fryatt and some 'promising' youngsters (Chambers and Sappleton), so no one needs to leave and we do not really need someone to come in. We still have Elvis (ankle) and MDV around, but I imagine their time as Leicester City players is running out. So Fryatt might not start to many games, but he will still be a reliable squad player. Maybe we could sell him to get some funds, so we can find a backup to Howard.

Posted
Hume would be a good player to bring off the bench for the last 15 minutes if we were drawing and looking to win the match. He could come on run his socks off for that time period and hopefully contribute to the team scoring. But Hume still has a lot to prove, and i only I feel if he fails to start scoring he could find himself being replaced at the end of the season.

Fryatt is a complete waste of space. So the sooner he's gone the better.

We still don't have any better alternatives than Hume to partner Howard. DJ is the one who has a lot to prove given how much we paid for him. Hume at £500,000 given the 30+ goals he's scored for us in 2 and a half seasons, in some seriously crap teams is good value for money.

Posted

I'm not really a massive fan of Fryatt to be honest. So many times recently he's threatened to do something half decent, but then failed. I think positions he picks up, or is told to pick up, aren't right for his style of play. Getting the ball on the edge the box with his back to goal is not his strong point. Nor is having to race with defenders over the top. These are the places he's been picking up the ball of late. He needs something across the box that he can get a foot on, I've no doubt he's a good finisher, but certainly this season he hasn't shown that.

As for Hume, he's no doubt been a good player for us. But a lot of people seemed to be fooled by the amount of running he does. Don't get me wrong, it's something we need. But other elements of his game are still weak. His positional sense is not always the best, when he's playing with Howard he tends to get to deep after chasing. But that will improve.

However, I would like to see DJ get to have a go with Howard, the combination of height and pace always works, especially in this league. It got Derby up last year. Campbell has the pace and also the finish on his day, he needs more of a run in the team though. Not that I see him walking straight into the team!

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We have Howard, Hume, DJ, Hayles, Fryatt and some 'promising' youngsters (Chambers and Sappleton), so no one needs to leave and we do not really need someone to come in. We still have Elvis (ankle) and MDV around, but I imagine their time as Leicester City players is running out. So Fryatt might not start to many games, but he will still be a reliable squad player. Maybe we could sell him to get some funds, so we can find a backup to Howard.

I wouldn't say any of our young strikers are realistic first team prospects yet.

Nor do I see Elvis and Mark DeVries as realistic options any longer.

Despite the scepticism, Hammond might have been a bench option but this injury of his seems to be taking for ever to clear and I doubt if that's a good sign.

And I've seen what inaction and lack of matches/incentive does for DeVries who's also had an ankle injury so I'm not hopeful there either.

Behind them are people like Ric Sappleton, Billy Kee, Ashley Chambers and Billy McKay and I just cannot see any of those playing above reserve team level for the rest of the season, other than in emergency or if the season is effectively over and the manager gives one or two a bit of experience.

Which to me says we need at least one new and reliable front line striker.

Posted

I actually prefer Fryatt over DJ to be honest but saying that i wouldnt start any of them at the minute considering we just beat cov and everyone played well so i wouldnt change the team at all at the moment ;)

Posted

Fryatt isn't good enough. Simple as that. He doesn't score goals, isn't a natural finisher and hasn't got the pace.

Posted

Fryatt isn't good enough people. He isn't a natural goalscorer and has no pace. DJ has bags of pace and, although his natural goalscoring instincts haven't quite hit the mark yet, I'd much rather have him partner Howard than Fryatt. Pace people. It brings excitement and interest to a game which, unfortunately, has been lacking (up until Saturday anyway).

Hume will do for now but I've always wanted to see him behind two front men. How this could fit in to the setup of the current team and players and the like, who knows, but worth a try.

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Fryatt is not far from the end of his contract if memory serves.

According to this, Fryatt still has another season to go.

I'm sure he'll have chances to prove himself between now and the end of the season, but nothing I've seen to date suggests he could be a reliable member of a side with Premier League ambitions. He doesn't have the pace, strength or awareness to succeed at the top level.

If we can get back what we paid for him, we'll have done well.

Posted
I wouldn't say any of our young strikers are realistic first team prospects yet.

Nor do I see Elvis and Mark DeVries as realistic options any longer.

Despite the scepticism, Hammond might have been a bench option but this injury of his seems to be taking for ever to clear and I doubt if that's a good sign.

And I've seen what inaction and lack of matches/incentive does for DeVries who's also had an ankle injury so I'm not hopeful there either.

Behind them are people like Ric Sappleton, Billy Kee, Ashley Chambers and Billy McKay and I just cannot see any of those playing above reserve team level for the rest of the season, other than in emergency or if the season is effectively over and the manager gives one or two a bit of experience.

Which to me says we need at least one new and reliable front line striker.

:w00t: :w00t: :w00t:

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DJ will stay on the bench

Which probably means he bumps Fryatt off it... Hayles is likley to stay and (not taking into acount respective form in training or further injury) that leaves you with DJ and Hayles, with DJ putting pressure on Hume - then Fryatt is reduced to scrapping with Chambers and Stappleton for the chance to fill in when there's an opening.

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Hume will start, Ollie is on record as saying Howard and Hume is his preferred partnership, also Campbell has far from cemented his place at the club, at least in my opinion

You can't really make a judgement on whether or not he deserves a place at the club because, the reason he hasn't scored enough goals is he didnt have no decent service from midfielders when he was not injured. However, now with laczko and bori you are guaranteed decent service into the box. No doubt campbell would score more goals than hume. I would love to see DJ and howard together, to see how it works out.

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