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when dj returns is that it for fryatt?

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Majority of Leicester fans are the most narrow minded people on the face of this planet. Some of the comments about the little precious over rated Hume are laughable.

I would try and argue most of the posts in here but I feel it would be waste of time.

Unbelievable

We are on the same wavelength ;)

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i mean if dj gets a starting place, hume must surely be on the bench, andwhilst although i cant rate the two directly,( hayles and fryatt) hayles looks to be a good impact player.

Assuming we might get other strikers in the summer as well?

:dunno:

would be very surprised if DJ gets straight back in. Ollie is a Hume fan, so I expect him to start with Howard. I would put DJ on the bench if fit

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You can't really make a judgement on whether or not he deserves a place at the club because, the reason he hasn't scored enough goals is he didnt have no decent service from midfielders when he was not injured. However, now with laczko and bori you are guaranteed decent service into the box. No doubt campbell would score more goals than hume. I would love to see DJ and howard together, to see how it works out.

which is exactly my point, people are assuming Fryatt will be the 1 to go but until they have all had a fair chance with our improved midfield we can't write any off, except perhaps the permanently injured Elvis

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You can't really make a judgement on whether or not he deserves a place at the club because, the reason he hasn't scored enough goals is he didnt have no decent service from midfielders when he was not injured. However, now with laczko and bori you are guaranteed decent service into the box. No doubt campbell would score more goals than hume. I would love to see DJ and howard together, to see how it works out.

On the contrary... I highly doubt this!

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not to say hume shouldnt stay up front if he is performing well, but there is just something about the prospect of campbell and howard at this level which excites me.

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I think Fryatt has till the end of the season to prove himself or make a decision to leave.

Realistically, Hayles wass only signed to do a job for half a season, like seeing out a game or needing a wiser head on the pitch. He is 35 and will not I imagine play a major part next season, when he will be 36.

In that sense, Fryatt has 2, maybe 3 forwards ahead of him in the queue, Hume, Howard and possibly Campbell. At this stage, Holloway has not really had a chance to assess Campbell as he's been injured, so we do not who is ahead of who out of Matty and DJ. The ball is therefore very much in Fryatt's court, as like all our strikers, he will have a decent midfield behind him, rather than feeding off long ball punts.

So I think like all our strikers, it's a case of unless they ask to leave or we get an offer too good to turn down, they will all be here until the summer when all decisions will be made.

You're probably right.

I think half the reason Hayles is here is to help with the strikers we already have. Hopefully he'll be able to help the likes of Hume, Fryatt and Chambers. Particularly with someone like Hume, who has never really mastered the art of getting in to the box at the right time. Hopefully, Howard and Hayles will help him in that area and enable him to become more clinical in front of goal.

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According to this, Fryatt still has another season to go.

I'm sure he'll have chances to prove himself between now and the end of the season, but nothing I've seen to date suggests he could be a reliable member of a side with Premier League ambitions. He doesn't have the pace, strength or awareness to succeed at the top level.

If we can get back what we paid for him, we'll have done well.

Which means we're six months at most from having to make a decision about his future here.

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Campbell will never stay fit enough to sustain a long run in the tam,looks a good player but Hume has his place in the side and competition for his place should make him a better player surely?

I think Fryatt could be on his way out,never really got going in a City shirt,we need someone who can knock in 20 goals before the end of the season and with the wingers we have now i can see Howard getting close to that and maybe even Hume. ;0) :rolleyes:

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Given the right midfield service I think Fryatt, DJ and Hume would all score more goals than what they have in the past. I'd keep all three you need strong competition for your strikers. Next season will hopefully be about trying to get in and around the play-offs. If we can somehow get up then losing Fryatt at the end of the season wouldn't bother me.

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I wouldn't really think about selling any of our better palyers until the end of the season. If someone good goes it should only be to bring in someone better or for a better balance (though saying that is somewhat easier than doing it!)

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According to this, Fryatt still has another season to go.

I'm sure he'll have chances to prove himself between now and the end of the season, but nothing I've seen to date suggests he could be a reliable member of a side with Premier League ambitions. He doesn't have the pace, strength or awareness to succeed at the top level.

If we can get back what we paid for him, we'll have done well.

:unsure: Well we turned down 900k for him, more than what we paid for him.

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:unsure: Well we turned down 900k for him, more than what we paid for him.

Bit surprised we did that although, like others, I did hope and expect that he'd have a better season after recovering from injury.

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Bit surprised we did that although, like others, I did hope and expect that he'd have a better season after recovering from injury.

He remind's me of David Nugent a bit, Looked a decent goalscorer at a certain level moved up a level still looked a decent enough player but no goals.

He's payed to score goals he isnt doing that, If i didnt do what i was payed for i would be shown the door.

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i mean if dj gets a starting place, hume must surely be on the bench, andwhilst although i cant rate the two directly,( hayles and fryatt) hayles looks to be a good impact player.

Assuming we might get other strikers in the summer as well?

:dunno:

What are you on about mate??

Howard and Hume are easily the bet partnership at the club. TBH Campbell is 4th/5th choice striker at the club along with Fryatt as Hayles is always going to be picked ahead of them.

Posted
I'd sell one of our strikers and go for Eastwood anyway. Eastwood and Howard up front would be unreal at this level.

I'd prefer Keogh :thumbup:

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What are you on about mate??

Howard and Hume are easily the bet partnership at the club. TBH Campbell is 4th/5th choice striker at the club along with Fryatt as Hayles is always going to be picked ahead of them.

Im sorry but i disagree. The ability i witnessed in campbell at birmingham far exceeds fryatt has done of note at this club.

And on the record I AGREE howard and hume are the best partnership at the moment, the key word in my post was 'IF', as there are many fans who think that when in form and fully fit campbell has the potential to be a great player and goalscorer at this level

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On the contrary... I highly doubt this!

You want to put money on it? DJ is a poacher, hume picks up the ball runs at defenders and tends to create chances for others quite alot. Hume scored 14 goals for us last season playing nealry all of the games. Campbell scored 13 in 18 starts or something like that. Obvioulsy he had better service than hume.

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You want to put money on it? DJ is a poacher, hume picks up the ball runs at defenders and tends to create chances for others quite alot. Hume scored 14 goals for us last season playing nealry all of the games. Campbell scored 13 in 18 starts or something like that. Obvioulsy he had better service than hume.

Yes, I´d love to.

DJ's record at Brum according to wiki is 9 league goals in 43 appearances and 3 in 14 at Leicester. So 12 in 57.

Hume's record this season and the two previous ones is 29 league goals in 107 games. If you only take the stats from when they've played side by side in the Championship (31.1.2006), Hume's stats are 25 league goals in 90 games.

And as you've pointed out, DJ had better service at Brum. Albeit he came off the bench a lot.

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What short memories some people have. Only a few weeks ago Fryatt was regularly being rated our man of the match. People were saying things like: ”Everything good we did today went through Fryatt” and “He is the most talented ball-player we have”. None of that has changed. He is about the only player we have who can bring a ball down instantly, from whatever angle it is played at him, and make a good pass. People seem to forget how many chances he creates for other people, in particular for Hume. He also has that rare ability – a quick football brain – which Gary Megson pointed out when he was here I believe. Few players have this gift. Solskjaer and Sheringham spring to mind.

Sure, he has his weaknesses. What player doesn’t? He is not blessed with lightning pace, but he is no slouch either, and is improving in that department. His shooting can be weak, but his accuracy is often to be admired – and he can beat a goalkeeper by striking the ball early, as mentioned above.

If I was Ollie, I would have Fryatt training hard at his speed off the mark and his shooting, He is still young, and is only going to improve. He has been very unlucky not to score more goals this season. Many times he’s hit a shot and I’ve thought: “That’s in”, only for a defender to stick out a foot or the keeper to make an amazing save.

As for DJ, in my view Martin Allen paid way over the odds for him. From what I’ve seen, he’s got a lousy first touch and no great skill. Occasionally, he can look nippy over a short distance, but he is certainly no paceman. To me, he’s just another Elvis, minus the pace. I would pick Fryatt ahead of him every time. For that matter, I would often pick Fryatt ahead of Hume, depending on the opposition and our tactics.

I for one would be very sorry to see Fryatt leave. On his day, he is joy to watch, and I believe he could develop into one hell of a player, given the right coaching and support.

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I just decided to post here because, as Thor had just posted, the forum read as last post...

when dj returns is that it for...

Thor

:crylaugh:

Imo, Fryatt is a very good thunder god, but he'll never replace Thor! :thumbup:

PS, I have a weird sense of humour

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What short memories some people have. Only a few weeks ago Fryatt was regularly being rated our man of the match. People were saying things like: ”Everything good we did today went through Fryatt” and “He is the most talented ball-player we have”. None of that has changed. He is about the only player we have who can bring a ball down instantly, from whatever angle it is played at him, and make a good pass. People seem to forget how many chances he creates for other people, in particular for Hume. He also has that rare ability – a quick football brain – which Gary Megson pointed out when he was here I believe. Few players have this gift. Solskjaer and Sheringham spring to mind.

Sure, he has his weaknesses. What player doesn’t? He is not blessed with lightning pace, but he is no slouch either, and is improving in that department. His shooting can be weak, but his accuracy is often to be admired – and he can beat a goalkeeper by striking the ball early, as mentioned above.

If I was Ollie, I would have Fryatt training hard at his speed off the mark and his shooting, He is still young, and is only going to improve. He has been very unlucky not to score more goals this season. Many times he’s hit a shot and I’ve thought: “That’s in”, only for a defender to stick out a foot or the keeper to make an amazing save.

As for DJ, in my view Martin Allen paid way over the odds for him. From what I’ve seen, he’s got a lousy first touch and no great skill. Occasionally, he can look nippy over a short distance, but he is certainly no paceman. To me, he’s just another Elvis, minus the pace. I would pick Fryatt ahead of him every time. For that matter, I would often pick Fryatt ahead of Hume, depending on the opposition and our tactics.

I for one would be very sorry to see Fryatt leave. On his day, he is joy to watch, and I believe he could develop into one hell of a player, given the right coaching and support.

Fryatt should print and paste this post in his scrapbook. Cos I doubt he'll ever again be compared to Solsjaer and Sheringham for his football brain.

I do wish you were right though. Cos if you were then Fryatt would be as asset whether he was scoring or not. Sadly it's his lack of a fast and instinctive football brain which so often lets him down.

Times players have made runs and Fryatt has either not seen them or has chosen to ignore them if he did. In one post I even remarked that if I were his team-mate I wouldn't bother making such runs for all the service I'd get.

Occasionally he surprises you and plays a more selfless game but not very often. Solksjaer, on the other hand, was brilliant at bringing others into play. Henrik Larssen was another.

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Personally I think that Fryatt has the best footballing brain at the club, he's also a very good finisher. Unfortunately it doesn't look like Ollie rates him and I can't see him getting into the side any time soon.

Reluctantly, if we can get a good price for him maybe it would be best for all concerned.

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I don't really care too much for Fryatt.

In hindsight, we probably shouldn't have turned down Wolves' offer in the summer. Walsall would nick 15 or 20% or whatever percentage sell-on clause they have on him.

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