Staf Posted 23 January 2008 Posted 23 January 2008 I actually dont think he is overrated he is having another decent season and has been our best player for the past two seasons i dont know how someone who persistently plays well over the season can be overrated
Bert Posted 23 January 2008 Posted 23 January 2008 a) Top scorer for 1.5 seasons.b) Virtually always fit to play. c) 100% effort when he does play even when the game is lost. d) Versatility. He's moved around from pillar to post to accommodate people who are more limited positionally. e) Closes people down with real enthusiasm. f) Makes headers he has no right too through his sheer determination. g) Because you know that with 11 with his attitude we would never be near the foot of the table. h) He tries to makes the best of his ability. Some can't even keep themselves properly fit. Spot on.
termite111 Posted 23 January 2008 Author Posted 23 January 2008 Spot on, although is it a) Top scorer for 2.5 seasons? He's been our top scorer since he arrive at the start of the 2005/06 season along with joey gudjonsson and mark de vries in 05/06
termite111 Posted 23 January 2008 Author Posted 23 January 2008 Give Fryatt a chance hes had 50 games odd for us and hardly scored, thats his chance gone i suppose you'd give cort or hammond another chance then : they've played less than 50 games i'm not slating hume i just think its stupid that people like him cause he plays with his heart on his sleeve jet so does stearman etc but people always slagging him off thats all i'm sayin
sotonfox Posted 23 January 2008 Posted 23 January 2008 I don't get some people. Yes, if we were a top 3 side with quality and effort throughout, peoples current love of Hume might be classed as over the top. The fact is, we have been a bottom 3 side with a complete lack of passion and commitment from the majority and a total absence of quality. Against that backdrop Ian Hume is an absolute shining light!
Fox You Forest Posted 23 January 2008 Posted 23 January 2008 I don't get some people.Yes, if we were a top 3 side with quality and effort throughout, peoples current love of Hume might be classed as over the top. The fact is, we have been a bottom 3 side with a complete lack of passion and commitment from the majority and a total absence of quality. Against that backdrop Ian Hume is an absolute shining light! Well put Sir.
Father Ted Posted 23 January 2008 Posted 23 January 2008 a) Top scorer for 1.5 seasons.b) Virtually always fit to play. c) 100% effort when he does play even when the game is lost. d) Versatility. He's moved around from pillar to post to accommodate people who are more limited positionally. e) Closes people down with real enthusiasm. f) Makes headers he has no right to through his sheer determination. g) Because you know that if we had 11 with his attitude we would never be near the foot of the table. h) He tries to makes the best of his ability. Some can't even keep themselves properly fit. You tell them. The tosser that started this thread and anyone who questions Hume are really sad and stupid people.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 23 January 2008 Posted 23 January 2008 Spot on Thrac - at this level Hume is a top notch utility player who gives it his all. Will never be a world beater, but he would be one of the last players I would move on in order to better the club.
Thracian Posted 23 January 2008 Posted 23 January 2008 i suppose you'd give cort or hammond another chance then : they've played less than 50 games i'm not slating hume i just think its stupid that people like him cause he plays with his heart on his sleeve jet so does stearman etc but people always slagging him off thats all i'm sayin For what it's worth I don't think many could fault Stearman's effort and commitment. It's his choice of pass mainly that seems to frustrate people but Hume's not the greatest passer either. People also forget that Stearman's been doing an extremely difficult job in the circumstances. Wing back with no winger's, slow centre-backs and a makeshift midfield for much of the time is a really thankless ask and, in the main, he's done okay. Much attacking of Stearman is down to people wanting Chambers. It's like wanting to change the wallpaper, the three-piece suite, or even the girlfriend. If it's new and on offer people want to try it. See if it's any better.
Guest ttfn Posted 23 January 2008 Posted 23 January 2008 I thought we were talking about Hume.Kenton's quite versatile, or was. Fryatt's never struck me that way. I don't think Hume is particularly good on the wing and have said so before but he seems to contribute well enough when he drops back into central midfield, though I wouldn't play him there. What's your angle? Are you trying to devalue Hume or trying to argue we should have an alternative centre-forward? Cos I'm with Fez on that subject. I think you try to improve every position if you can. But I don't think there's conclusive evidence to say Campbell would be better than Hume. And I don't think it matters. Campbell's never looked a 90-minute man anyway since he's been here and, although he may well be more dangerous as a goal poacher I think both players would likely be used anyway. My angle is that you are trying to use the fact that Hume is versatile as evidence that he is not overrated. He is not a versatile player, a versatile player is one who performs to almost the same standard as in his favourite position in at least one other position. Just because a player has played in a different position doesn't mean he's versatile. I think he's better than Campbell up front I never disputed that. All I'm saying is that he is not a versatile player. Players like (my apologies for using prem examples) Ronaldo, Gallas, Arteta, Ashley Young - that is versatility. At Championship level, players like Huckerby or even McAuley are that. Hume is not. As someone else has said, he's not prem quality. The way that he consistently gets lauded on here suggests that he is. He is a good player. Just not as good as many people seem to think. Therefore, he is overrated - does that not stand to reason? We've got at least one better and more consistent player (kisnorbo) in our squad (2 before Fulop left)
Thracian Posted 23 January 2008 Posted 23 January 2008 I don't get some people.Yes, if we were a top 3 side with quality and effort throughout, peoples current love of Hume might be classed as over the top. The fact is, we have been a bottom 3 side with a complete lack of passion and commitment from the majority and a total absence of quality. Against that backdrop Ian Hume is an absolute shining light! Though I'd say the lack of passion was from some than the majority.
Samilktray Posted 23 January 2008 Posted 23 January 2008 My angle is that you are trying to use the fact that Hume is versatile as evidence that he is not overrated. He is not a versatile player, a versatile player is one who performs to almost the same standard as in his favourite position in at least one other position. Just because a player has played in a different position doesn't mean he's versatile. I think he's better than Campbell up front I never disputed that. All I'm saying is that he is not a versatile player. Players like (my apologies for using prem examples) Ronaldo, Gallas, Arteta, Ashley Young - that is versatility. At Championship level, players like Huckerby or even McAuley are that. Hume is not. Whaa ?!
Simi Posted 23 January 2008 Posted 23 January 2008 My angle is that you are trying to use the fact that Hume is versatile as evidence that he is not overrated. He is not a versatile player, a versatile player is one who performs to almost the same standard as in his favourite position in at least one other position. Just because a player has played in a different position doesn't mean he's versatile. I think he's better than Campbell up front I never disputed that. All I'm saying is that he is not a versatile player. Players like (my apologies for using prem examples) Ronaldo, Gallas, Arteta, Ashley Young - that is versatility. At Championship level, players like Huckerby or even McAuley are that. Hume is not. McAuley is not at all versatile.
Guest ttfn Posted 23 January 2008 Posted 23 January 2008 McAuley is not at all versatile. He's played right back on 3/4 occassions and looked every bit as good there as in central defence
sotonfox Posted 23 January 2008 Posted 23 January 2008 McAuley is not at all versatile. I think he meant very sellable!!
Guest ttfn Posted 23 January 2008 Posted 23 January 2008 Whaa ?! I'm sorry what would you like me to clarify, my argument or my sanity?
Simi Posted 23 January 2008 Posted 23 January 2008 He's played right back on 3/4 occassions and looked every bit as good there as in central defence I disagree. Even if he was good, I don't think playing there on a couple of occasions makes him versatile. When he played right back he was exposed for his lack of pace and positional awareness there. Give me N Gotty at right back over McAuley any day. Although he's just as slow, if not slower.
Fox You Forest Posted 23 January 2008 Posted 23 January 2008 He's played right back on 3/4 occassions and looked every bit as good there as in central defence
Guest ttfn Posted 23 January 2008 Posted 23 January 2008 Ok that's your opinion. I believe that the matter at hand here is Hume though.
Simi Posted 23 January 2008 Posted 23 January 2008 Ok that's your opinion. I believe that the matter at hand here is Hume though. Exactly, that's what the forum is about. But yeah Hume. Overrated? In patches yes I do think he is. But we'd be in some serious shit without him.
Super Arj Posted 23 January 2008 Posted 23 January 2008 Why is it that everyone seems to love IAN HUME?i'm just wondering if everyone does rate him or not? Every week stearman even though he plays with passion for the club and gives 110% every game gets jeered and slated none stop but then you've got hume that yet again tries 110% every game usually doesn't score and gets a BIG cheer everytime he touches the ball! even when he has had crap games. i just wanna know why this is. i think he's an ok player for us, not our best but what he lacks in skill he makes up in determination. same with fryatt fans still love him, reckon he's the best finisher in the club ("give him half a chance and he'll score") but to me he usually looks like he can never be arsed to put 110% effort in!! and the amount of "HALF CHANCES" i've seen him have this year and easier ones he's fluffed. so why is it fans like some than others even though there no better and give 110% every game!!!!!!!!!! we slate stearman because he ****s it up a lot of the time Hume is a loyal player who tries a helluva lot more than stearman STOP BITCHIN FOOL!!
Corky Posted 23 January 2008 Posted 23 January 2008 I don't get people slating him for not being versatile. If previous managers had signed the right players, with two for every position at least, then Hume and others wouldn't need to be versatile, as they will always play in their right/preferred position. You can't expect someone who has played as a striker all of his life to suddenly be a great right-winger. Judge him on what he does in his natural position.
WetFlannel Posted 23 January 2008 Posted 23 January 2008 *COUGH* 14 goals last season *COUGH* top scorer this season Without Hume last season we would have gone down... In fact, without his goals this season we would be in the bottom three... Some people you just cant please...
termite111 Posted 23 January 2008 Author Posted 23 January 2008 we slate stearman because he ****s it up a lot of the timeHume is a loyal player who tries a helluva lot more than stearman STOP BITCHIN FOOL!! how the f**k can you say hume tries more and is more loyal to the club when stearman is the longest serving player at the club at the mo TIT! and they both try just as hard each game twat. thats what the whole point is and you've just proved how people dislike stearman for no reason. FOOL fans like you that get up my nose. if stearman scores next game you'll love him. FICKLE springs to mind
WetFlannel Posted 23 January 2008 Posted 23 January 2008 how the f**k can you say hume tries more and is more loyal to the club when stearman is the longest serving player at the club at the mo TIT! and they both try just as hard each game twat. thats what the whole point is and you've just proved how people dislike stearman for no reason. FOOL fans like you that get up my nose. if stearman scores next game you'll love him. FICKLE springs to mind Its pretty blatant that Hume tries more... Hes our top scorer... What more do you want?
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