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Who should we blame for the downfall of our youths?

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Grand Theft Auto

N.W.A.

Snoop Dogg (I want him in the White House)

Al-Qaeeda

Mohamed Al-Fayed

Ian Holloway

Others (please specify)

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The youth's themselves.

Tut, kids these days. :rolleyes:

:unsure:

Ben, please be careful on the streets of Stanton under Bardon or wherever you live.

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Ben, please be careful on the streets of Stanton under Bardon or wherever you live.

We do actually have our 12 year old hooligans.

Besides, you love Stanton Under Bardon. Not many people go there at all, let alone twice.

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Teenage parents? Parents who dont give a ****? Govornments who care more about their own pockets than their own people?

All of those combined.

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Immigrants :ph34r:

Thats part of it, I agree.

Tip toeing around a racial debate and all that, its like eggs though, you get good ones that come here for the right recent and make a valid contribution and others who come to cause chaos.

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Immigrants :ph34r:

Be specific.

- Zimbabweans

- Somalis

- Nigerians

- Eastern Europeans

I blame the blacks.

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Anyone get smacked as a child?

To be honest that sorted me out good and proper and kept me in line along with being brought up with a conscience (sp?) but since smacking seems to have been banned all these kids are running riot and have a lack of discipline. I remember there was a woman who lived near me, very upper class who didn't believe in smacking, her son is now in prison.

What are peoples views on this? Old timers - bring back the cane?

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Anyone get smacked as a child?

To be honest that sorted me out good and proper and kept me in line along with being brought up with a conscience (sp?) but since smacking seems to have been banned all these kids are running riot and have a lack of discipline. I remember there was a woman who lived near me, very upper class who didn't believe in smacking, her son is now in prison.

What are peoples views on this? Old timers - bring back the cane?

I got smaked everytime I stepped out of line. Not only by my parents + family. But random folks in the community did give me a proper bollocking and sometimes a slap across the face whenever I did something wrong. And if I complained to my mum that so and so had twisted my ear, she would then give me another bollocking.

Today youths lack dicipline. A lot of dicipline.

Bring back the old timers I say.

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I got smaked everytime I stepped out of line. Not only by my parents + family. But random folks in the community did give me a proper bollocking and sometimes a slap across the face whenever I did something wrong. And if I complained to my mum that so and so had twisted my ear, she would then give me another bollocking.

Today youths lack dicipline. A lot of dicipline.

Bring back the old timers I say.

I was smacked. It neither did me harm nor good. My parents regret having done it now and I wouldn't do it myself. The only thing smacking me achieved was to ensure that next time I would simply make sure I wasn't caught. I think theres a lot of rubish spoken about the "youth of today". I don't think they are any worse than they have ever been, the only difference now being that you see delinquency splashed all over the newspapers. Its just what seems to be fashionable in the media at the moment. Ten years ago it was paedophiles, shortly after that it was the right to kick a burglar's head in. Theres always something for the gutter press to latch on to and cause a moral panic about. I'm sure older posters will recall the same kind of things being said about mods and rockers, then punks and so on. I don't deny that little old ladies are in some cases are intimidated as they walk past large groups of youths. But I have to wonder if its the youths in question of whom they are scared, or the media portrayal of those in a certain age group. Personally I feel its the latter.

There always have been bad kids, of course. And there always will be. Some grow out of it, some don't. My dad certainly never benefited from the "discipline" of the cane at school. He was a little shite, and remained so until he was old enough to know better. If anything, the cane gave him more of a "fook you" attitude. But then, if I was abused in a similar way, and abuse is exactly how I feel about it, I can't promise that I wouldn't have become a tearaway in reaction to it myself.

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I was smacked. It neither did me harm nor good. My parents regret having done it now and I wouldn't do it myself. The only thing smacking me achieved was to ensure that next time I would simply make sure I wasn't caught. I think theres a lot of rubish spoken about the "youth of today". I don't think they are any worse than they have ever been, the only difference now being that you see delinquency splashed all over the newspapers. Its just what seems to be fashionable in the media at the moment. Ten years ago it was paedophiles, shortly after that it was the right to kick a burglar's head in. Theres always something for the gutter press to latch on to and cause a moral panic about. I'm sure older posters will recall the same kind of things being said about mods and rockers, then punks and so on. I don't deny that little old ladies are in some cases are intimidated as they walk past large groups of youths. But I have to wonder if its the youths in question of whom they are scared, or the media portrayal of those in a certain age group. Personally I feel its the latter.

There always have been bad kids, of course. And there always will be. Some grow out of it, some don't. My dad certainly never benefited from the "discipline" of the cane at school. He was a little shite, and remained so until he was old enough to know better. If anything, the cane gave him more of a "fook you" attitude. But then, if I was abused in a similar way, and abuse is exactly how I feel about it, I can't promise that I wouldn't have become a tearaway in reaction to it myself.

:appl:

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Anyone get smacked as a child?

To be honest that sorted me out good and proper and kept me in line along with being brought up with a conscience (sp?) but since smacking seems to have been banned all these kids are running riot and have a lack of discipline. I remember there was a woman who lived near me, very upper class who didn't believe in smacking, her son is now in prison.

What are peoples views on this? Old timers - bring back the cane?

Completely agree with that mate :thumbup:

Too many kids these days have no understanding of the repercussions of their actions

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I was smacked. It neither did me harm nor good. My parents regret having done it now and I wouldn't do it myself. The only thing smacking me achieved was to ensure that next time I would simply make sure I wasn't caught. I think theres a lot of rubish spoken about the "youth of today". I don't think they are any worse than they have ever been, the only difference now being that you see delinquency splashed all over the newspapers. Its just what seems to be fashionable in the media at the moment. Ten years ago it was paedophiles, shortly after that it was the right to kick a burglar's head in. Theres always something for the gutter press to latch on to and cause a moral panic about. I'm sure older posters will recall the same kind of things being said about mods and rockers, then punks and so on. I don't deny that little old ladies are in some cases are intimidated as they walk past large groups of youths. But I have to wonder if its the youths in question of whom they are scared, or the media portrayal of those in a certain age group. Personally I feel its the latter.

There always have been bad kids, of course. And there always will be. Some grow out of it, some don't. My dad certainly never benefited from the "discipline" of the cane at school. He was a little shite, and remained so until he was old enough to know better. If anything, the cane gave him more of a "fook you" attitude. But then, if I was abused in a similar way, and abuse is exactly how I feel about it, I can't promise that I wouldn't have become a tearaway in reaction to it myself.

good post.

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I got smaked everytime I stepped out of line. Not only by my parents + family. But random folks in the community did give me a proper bollocking and sometimes a slap across the face whenever I did something wrong. And if I complained to my mum that so and so had twisted my ear, she would then give me another bollocking.

Today youths lack dicipline. A lot of dicipline.

...and literacy skills..

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I think yoof nowadays IS worse than it was years ago.

Too many bad asses who wanna be notorious for the wrong reasons.

They know they can basically get away with murder nowadays.

Parents too busy earning a living,teachers have no respect from kids and coppers too busy using speed cameras!

No respect.

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I was smacked. It neither did me harm nor good. My parents regret having done it now and I wouldn't do it myself. The only thing smacking me achieved was to ensure that next time I would simply make sure I wasn't caught. I think theres a lot of rubish spoken about the "youth of today". I don't think they are any worse than they have ever been, the only difference now being that you see delinquency splashed all over the newspapers. Its just what seems to be fashionable in the media at the moment. Ten years ago it was paedophiles, shortly after that it was the right to kick a burglar's head in. Theres always something for the gutter press to latch on to and cause a moral panic about. I'm sure older posters will recall the same kind of things being said about mods and rockers, then punks and so on. I don't deny that little old ladies are in some cases are intimidated as they walk past large groups of youths. But I have to wonder if its the youths in question of whom they are scared, or the media portrayal of those in a certain age group. Personally I feel its the latter.

There always have been bad kids, of course. And there always will be. Some grow out of it, some don't. My dad certainly never benefited from the "discipline" of the cane at school. He was a little shite, and remained so until he was old enough to know better. If anything, the cane gave him more of a "fook you" attitude. But then, if I was abused in a similar way, and abuse is exactly how I feel about it, I can't promise that I wouldn't have become a tearaway in reaction to it myself.

Absolutely, 100% spot on Lee. I talk about this issue a lot with my girlfriend who manages a youth project and is also doing a Masters in criminology. Everything you say about the media is correct. At the same time there is a lot of work to be done. Part of the problem is that because of this media sensationalism MP's and other people who think they know best feel the need to come out and speak about what is wrong. Often they are so far wide of the mark and only serve to increase the "gap" between what they think needs to be done and the reality of what youth really needs.

It's not about more police or more discipline or more ASBO's or harsher sentences. It's about people like my girlfriend working with young people face to face, giving them skills, responsibility and direction.

There is a problem, like there's always been, but it never gets solved because the policy makers and people in power haven't got a f**king clue.

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Bunch of pussyholes, wouldn't do that down my parts.

Innit

Get one of the little tossers on their own and then see how solid they are!

Bunch of p*ssies!!!

I dont even think its a case of little old ladies walking down the street being afraid. I'm 28 in a couple of weeks, and i know how to look after myself, but seeing a big group of lads still intimidates me.

I had to be rushed to the emergency room in Loughborough a couple of weeks ago, and standing outside it at gone 11:00 at night were about 7 or 8 lads with some girls as well and as we were walking in the were saying stuff to us and swearing. These kids probably ranged from about 14 to maybe older at 21 or 22 at most. But why the hell would the be hanging around somewhere like that at that time of night!

And it also goes to show how times have changed when you see a doorman (bouncer) at the door of a medical centre!

In this instance. You could blame a number of things.

The parents for letting their young kids stay out at that time of night plus the police who were called at least twice when i was sitting in the waiting room, and never showed up before i had left, and i was there approximately an hour.

This country is turning into a shithole! . Sorry.

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