Thracian Posted 6 April 2008 Posted 6 April 2008 From Yahoo News: ============ LOS ANGELES - Charlton Heston, who won the 1959 best actor Oscar as the chariot-racing "Ben-Hur" and portrayed Moses, Michelangelo, El Cid and other heroic figures in movie epics of the '50s and '60s, has died. He was 84. ADVERTISEMENT The actor died Saturday night at his home in Beverly Hills with his wife Lydia at his side, family spokesman Bill Powers said. Powers declined to comment on the cause of death or provide further details. "Charlton Heston was seen by the world as larger than life. He was known for his chiseled jaw, broad shoulders and resonating voice, and, of course, for the roles he played," Heston's family said in a statement. "No one could ask for a fuller life than his. No man could have given more to his family, to his profession, and to his country." Heston revealed in 2002 that he had symptoms consistent with Alzheimer's disease, saying, "I must reconcile courage and surrender in equal measure." ================ It realise it dates me a bit but I still think his film Ben-Hur is one of the best ever and am sure my still remaining desire to drive a team of huskies dates back to watching the film's famous chariot race as a kid.
Zingari Posted 6 April 2008 Posted 6 April 2008 I saw a photo of Moses once. He looked a lot like Charlton Heston. and Thracian , how did watching Ben Hur cause you to want to drive a team of huskies ?
Durnerz Posted 6 April 2008 Posted 6 April 2008 As on family guy 'Let my pigeons go!' *boom* 'he nailed one!' R.I.P though in all seriousness.
Thracian Posted 6 April 2008 Author Posted 6 April 2008 I saw a photo of Moses once. He looked a lot like Charlton Heston.and Thracian , how did watching Ben Hur cause you to want to drive a team of huskies ? Because the one is possible and the other probably out of my reach.
Zingari Posted 6 April 2008 Posted 6 April 2008 Because the one is possible and the other probably out of my reach. but lots of things are possible and lots of things out of reach its like saying, i once saw "jaws" and from that day i have had a desire to open a fish and chip shop
Nick Posted 6 April 2008 Posted 6 April 2008 I really enjoyed him in 'Bowling for Columbine' Yeah, as President of the National Rifle Association he has done so much for American culture his body should be disposed of publicly in a zoo. In Ben Hur, if anybody knows the story, his number two has homosexual feelings towards the character. Heston not having read the book/play nor having the intelligence to interpret it, was not told. This is why in the film he looks genuinely uncomfortable in the closing scenes with his male oppo, this is not acting, the director chose not to tell him because he was so prejudice and such a 'mans man' around issues of homosexuality. His performance in Bowling for Columbine was truly majestic - holding the NRA rallies after gun killings had ravaged local communities is an arrogant, thoughtless, politically ruthless, example of the mans behaviour which made him surplus to requirements on this planet. The guy was an all American red-neck dick. It's a shame he didn't die slowly having been shot in the stomach. N.
sdb Posted 6 April 2008 Posted 6 April 2008 Yeah, as President of the National Rifle Association he has done so much for American culture his body should be disposed of publicly in a zoo.In Ben Hur, if anybody knows the story, his number two has homosexual feelings towards the character. Heston not having read the book/play nor having the intelligence to interpret it, was not told. This is why in the film he looks genuinely uncomfortable in the closing scenes with his male oppo, this is not acting, the director chose not to tell him because he was so prejudice and such a 'mans man' around issues of homosexuality. His performance in Bowling for Columbine was truly majestic - holding the NRA rallies after gun killings had ravaged local communities is an arrogant, thoughtless, politically ruthless, example of the mans behaviour which made him surplus to requirements on this planet. The guy was an all American red-neck dick. It's a shame he didn't die slowly having been shot in the stomach. N.
Thracian Posted 6 April 2008 Author Posted 6 April 2008 Yeah, as President of the National Rifle Association he has done so much for American culture his body should be disposed of publicly in a zoo.In Ben Hur, if anybody knows the story, his number two has homosexual feelings towards the character. Heston not having read the book/play nor having the intelligence to interpret it, was not told. This is why in the film he looks genuinely uncomfortable in the closing scenes with his male oppo, this is not acting, the director chose not to tell him because he was so prejudice and such a 'mans man' around issues of homosexuality. His performance in Bowling for Columbine was truly majestic - holding the NRA rallies after gun killings had ravaged local communities is an arrogant, thoughtless, politically ruthless, example of the mans behaviour which made him surplus to requirements on this planet. The guy was an all American red-neck dick. It's a shame he didn't die slowly having been shot in the stomach. N. What a nasty and narrow-minded individual you are. Almost everyone I met when I lived in Switzerland owned a gun but the place was just aboiut the safest country you could ever be in. Thousands of people who enjoy rifle shooting as a hobby are as horrified as anyone about the actions of lunatics with guns but no law will ever legislate for lunatics or prevent people getting their hands on or making deadly weapons if they so wish to. It's like all the furore about dangerous dogs. It's the owners are the problem not the dogs. As for the homosexual undertones in Ben Hur I knew nothing about that and simply watched a film, both as a kid and since, for the enjoyment of it. And had I wished to analyse it I couldn't really give a shit whether Ben Hur had homosexual feelings towards anyone. Why it should be such a big deal and why people should even be bothered by it I don't know. Put men in a warfare situation or any other circumstances which require them to be in a predominently single sex group of close comrades and away from home for long periods of time and even supposedly "straight" people might be tempted to take comfort they wouldn't necessarily have chosen from choice. This is shown in numerous writings conerning military and prison life, among others. The guy achieved things in his life. He gave a lot of people a lot of pleasure and deserves respect.
Thracian Posted 6 April 2008 Author Posted 6 April 2008 but lots of things are possible and lots of things out of reach its like saying, i once saw "jaws" and from that day i have had a desire to open a fish and chip shop Jaws gave me no inclination to open a chippy but it did make me cautious about swimming in the open sea. I'm not the strong, silent type when it comes to swimming anyway. More a sort of paddle steamer.
Daggers Posted 6 April 2008 Posted 6 April 2008 He gave a lot of people a lot of pleasure and deserves respect. Who the hell are you to tell Nick what he can and can not think or say? In the opinion of many he was a venal **** who decended on towns that had been victims of shooting incidents in order to promote the aims of the NRA and minimise the negative anti-gun sentiments in the media. Free speech deserves respecting - not a dead crap bigot.
Thracian Posted 6 April 2008 Author Posted 6 April 2008 Who the hell are you to tell Nick what he can and can not think or say?In the opinion of many he was a venal **** who decended on towns that had been victims of shooting incidents in order to promote the aims of the NRA and minimise the negative anti-gun sentiments in the media. Free speech deserves respecting - not a dead crap bigot. Pity free speech doesn't come with free choice instead of an attitude whereby certain views are made to prevail whether they be wise or otherwise. Banning guns won't get rid of homicidal attention-seeking maniacs. But it will ruin a lot of perfectly lawbiding people's hobby and enjoyment. Not that the real bigots would care about that. In fact it's hard to understand why you'd call Charlton Heston a bigot anyway. In supporting the gun lobby he's not being intollerant or narrow-minded in objecting to someone else's interest. He's just defending his own rights. The bigots are those who are intollerant of others and whose blind prejudice would seek to impose their view on others.
Daggers Posted 6 April 2008 Posted 6 April 2008 Pity free speech doesn't come with free choice instead of an attitude whereby certain views are made to prevail whether they be wise or otherwise. So, should your petty little insults direscted at Nick be made to prevail then? Are they a glowing example of being "wise"? Pfft.
SOCCERROO FOX Posted 6 April 2008 Posted 6 April 2008 The only time i had heard the of Charlton Heston was on the man show when there ws puppet called Charlton Hestons Penis
Nick Posted 6 April 2008 Posted 6 April 2008 What a nasty and narrow-minded individual you are.Almost everyone I met when I lived in Switzerland owned a gun but the place was just aboiut the safest country you could ever be in. Thousands of people who enjoy rifle shooting as a hobby are as horrified as anyone about the actions of lunatics with guns but no law will ever legislate for lunatics or prevent people getting their hands on or making deadly weapons if they so wish to. It's like all the furore about dangerous dogs. It's the owners are the problem not the dogs. As for the homosexual undertones in Ben Hur I knew nothing about that and simply watched a film, both as a kid and since, for the enjoyment of it. And had I wished to analyse it I couldn't really give a shit whether Ben Hur had homosexual feelings towards anyone. Why it should be such a big deal and why people should even be bothered by it I don't know. Put men in a warfare situation or any other circumstances which require them to be in a predominently single sex group of close comrades and away from home for long periods of time and even supposedly "straight" people might be tempted to take comfort they wouldn't necessarily have chosen from choice. This is shown in numerous writings conerning military and prison life, among others. The guy achieved things in his life. He gave a lot of people a lot of pleasure and deserves respect. I'll fully reply when I've stopped laughing. Thracian, I apologise for being nasty and narrow minded. I am also sorry that one of your role models was a complete cock. You never had a chance poor lamb, did you? As for the film of Ben Hur, again you have missed the point completely, I suggest you watch it again - Ben Hur was not homosexual - his friend was in love with him..... but I'm glad you enjoyed the non homo erotic action bits. As for the NRA, the guns are a problem as it is all about socio-cultural context. This differs greatly between Countries, including, Switzerland, Canada etc. It's about the Fifth Amendment and the right to bear arms, the need to protect from fear that is only perpetuated by the very act itself. America can't have guns safely because of the cultural history associated with them. Entertaining people and them deriving pleasure from it, does not equate with giving respect. People are entertained by your posts mate but that rarely leads to people respecting you. As for Michael Moore's documentary, 'Bowling for Columbine', I suggest you watch it. If you have watched it, watch it again as I'm sure there are bits you missed between the action scenes. Lovin your work Thrac, Love, "Narrow minded and Nasty" Nick. (but 'individual' as you rightly pointed out)
Zingari Posted 6 April 2008 Posted 6 April 2008 Yeah, as President of the National Rifle Association he has done so much for American culture his body should be disposed of publicly in a zoo.In Ben Hur, if anybody knows the story, his number two has homosexual feelings towards the character. Heston not having read the book/play nor having the intelligence to interpret it, was not told. This is why in the film he looks genuinely uncomfortable in the closing scenes with his male oppo, this is not acting, the director chose not to tell him because he was so prejudice and such a 'mans man' around issues of homosexuality. His performance in Bowling for Columbine was truly majestic - holding the NRA rallies after gun killings had ravaged local communities is an arrogant, thoughtless, politically ruthless, example of the mans behaviour which made him surplus to requirements on this planet. The guy was an all American red-neck dick. It's a shame he didn't die slowly having been shot in the stomach. N. Should he have died in the way you suggested for his discomfort with homosexual advances toward him, or for his belief that people are the problem not the weapon they happen to be holding He may of course been insensitive and wrong in his beliefs ( maybe rifles are the cause of all suffering in the world not the madmen ), but surely your wish for him to die a horrible death is uncalled for
Webbo Posted 6 April 2008 Posted 6 April 2008 It's virtually impossible (legally anyway) to own a gun in this country and yet gun crime is going up. I don't agree with American gun policy but as I don't live there I don't think it's my place to judge.
Nick Posted 6 April 2008 Posted 6 April 2008 Guns don't kill people, rappers do. Yes I saw it on a documentary on BBC2.
Daggers Posted 6 April 2008 Posted 6 April 2008 Shot to death outside Hyper Value, Guns blazin like Michael Cain in Zulu.
Zingari Posted 6 April 2008 Posted 6 April 2008 Nick should post more often. yes, there's not enough people in the world that are prepared to wish horrific deaths on their fellow human beings because of differing points of view
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