Now is the time to stick by the manager

[davieG]

I did want Ollie to go when we were in the Championship because i knew we would end up going down and i wanted us to survive.

No i didn't say that at all.

He will deserve another crack at the Championship when he takes us back up, if he remains in the job.

Trust me on this one, i shall be going all stable for next season.

I think that's quite explicit in demonstrating your belief in Holloways ability in the Championship - why do you now think he would do better there if he got us promoted - your argument lacks any kind of logic.

[lefox]

Why the hell would BD want to come here?!

Clubs are hardly jumping at his services right now.. and I think he's the man to do it

[Tilley]

If Ollie knows the players so well then how come we had our best goal scorer isolated on the wing?

How come we had our second highest goal scorer playing in midfield?

How come we had a geriatric has-been up front?

How come we had our best battling midfielder sat on the bench while a completely inexperienced young centre-back took his place on the pitch?

How come we have a quality left wing player shipped out to a second division club when we were so obviously in need of his services for large parts of the season?

The list could go on and on.

The 'shit' being mainly players he brought in?

I'm absolutely not for keeping him. He's shown absolutely zero ability in being able to motivate the players, zero ablity in cultivating any sort of mental attitude except defeatism, fear and avoiding responsibility.

If Holloway stays then we'll find ourselves in League 1 for several seasons to come. If Milan doesn't scak him now then he'll leave some time next season, leaving us in deep shit and having achieved nothing but getting us relegated.

I take all your points because that is what I've been saying for months.

His team selection, his tactics etc.

But I'm just sick of one manager in, one out. It's no good for the club.

We are the most unstable club around at the minute.

Hopefully IF Ollie does stay, then he can learn from his mistakes.

I would take Holloway over Dowie everyday of the week,

[breadandcheese]

Are you crazy?

He ballsed it up at Wycombe but he's gone away and worked under different managers, learning from others to improve, going to Feyenoord, Utrecht and now assistant manager at Portsmouth. So he's put in an apprenticeship, it's now time to see whether he can step up to be a manager.

He doesn't have a bad eye for a player and was the one who discovered Nathan Tyson for Wycombe, picking him up for a bargain.

He has the credentials to become a decent manager

[Jonbluefox9]

I can see why you think it would be a good idea to stick with Holloway as manager but if we do and results in League One aren't instant, he will be given even less time by the fans than a new manager would. It was similar with Micky Adams when we were relegated from the Premiership. We didn't make an awful start but the pressure built up on him from the previous season. I think, looking back now, that we should've got rid of Adams before starting the 2004/05 season.

I feel that we need a straight talking manager in now who can bring discipline to the team and demands the respect of everyone involved with the club. No more jokers. Just do their job and let results do the talking.

[sdb]

maybe what i've seen at LCFC over the last 4 years has been a horrible nightmare, maybe i haven't even woken up...

but what i've seen is a club getting worse and worse with each change of manager. i'm gonna say something a bit crazy and a bit alien. something 99% of leicester fans don't even know was possible in modern football...

lets keep a manager for over a year. lets give someone a really good fist at the job. things often get worse before they get better. look at Gary Johnson at Bristol City - they're on the verge of promotion to the prem yet they lost their fisrt 11 games in League 1 with him. I'm sick of people thinking they're bloody Alan Sugar on this forum. People on some weird, fake, power trip where there's only 1 solution to everything - firing the manager.

This club has been in a mess for many years now. Don't forget that, and don't forget the (many - hint hint) decisions that have led to that.

[DanTheFoxBhoy]

I did want Ollie to go when we were in the Championship because i knew we would end up going down and i wanted us to survive.

But now he is our best chance of getting straight out of League 1.

He has done it before.

My sig was done yesterday just after the game when i was devastated, but now after thinking about it we must stick with Ollie.

You make a good point.

I'm in no mindset to make an informed decision. One thing Ollie does have is the promotion goods, and I remember a couple of weeks ago the poll on here that said a majority of fans would want him to stay if we did go down. So much of this Ollie out stuff is driven by hurt that he was at the helm when the ship went down, so to speak.

As for stupid substitution decisions, what manager of ours in recent memory hasn't been sledged for being tactically inept? Levein was tactically inept. Kelly was tactically inept. Worthington played boring football. Allen loaded the side with shite. Megson played anti-football (but is currently employed by a premier league club ). Tags lost a game. Ollie is tactically inept.

When will we realise our place as a club who is in no position to demand the services of the likes of Sir Alex?

I doubt Milan is thinking that way at all though, Ollie's head is probably already on his dartboard.

[maddog]

I think that's quite explicit in demonstrating your belief in Holloways ability in the Championship - why do you now think he would do better there if he got us promoted - your argument lacks any kind of logic.

Leicester going down this season lacks any kind of logic.

It is logical to stick with a manager who has experience in League 1 and has got a team promoted from there?

It is logical because he knows the players and changing the manager clearly didn't work this season, so why would it work again?

It is logical because we wouldn't be able to bring in a successful good manager now like Allardyce?

It is logical because Ollie will learn from his mistakes surely?

It is logical because Ollie will want to repay the fans, and will be desperate for a straight promotion?

Sacking Ollie won't get us promoted from League 1 next season. Simple. Sticking with him, in my opinion will.

I do believe sacking Ollie this season would have saved us from relegation but it's too late for that now.

It's time to re group and stick with Ollie, just like we should have kept Allen this season, despite his mistakes with his signings.

Im fooking sick of changing manager after manager since O Neil left. Im fooking sick of fresh start after fresh start and each new manager failing.

Stick with it this time.

[Chimp]

Hopefully IF Ollie does stay, then he can learn from his mistakes.

That's just it though. HE never makes mistakes does he?

It's ALWAYS someone elses fault, whether it be the players, the officials, whatever... the man simply cannot see that a very real part of the reason we have performed so badly this season is down to him.

We need to cut this cancer out of our club NOW.

[renards]

If Ollie knows the players so well then how come we had our best goal scorer isolated on the wing?

How come we had our second highest goal scorer playing in midfield?

How come we had a geriatric has-been up front?

How come we had our best battling midfielder sat on the bench while a completely inexperienced young centre-back took his place on the pitch?

How come we have a quality left wing player shipped out to a second division club when we were so obviously in need of his services for large parts of the season?

The list could go on and on.

The 'shit' being mainly players he brought

I'm absolutely not for keeping him. He's shown absolutely zero ability in being able to motivate the players, zero ablity in cultivating any sort of mental attitude except defeatism, fear and avoiding responsibility.

If Holloway stays then we'll find ourselves in League 1 for several seasons to come. If Milan doesn't scak him now then he'll leave some time next season, leaving us in deep shit and having achieved nothing but getting us relegated.

I think that post says it all

[Basingstoke Fox]

Clubs are hardly jumping at his services right now.. and I think he's the man to do it

I would take Billy Davies but if he comes here then ill be absolutely amazed. But he wont.

[Tilley]

That's just it though. HE never makes mistakes does he?

It's ALWAYS someone elses fault, whether it be the players, the officials, whatever... the man simply cannot see that a very real part of the reason we have performed so badly this season is down to him.

We need to cut this cancer out of our club NOW.

Ok, & get who in?

[Eastern Fox]

It is logical because Ollie will learn from his mistakes surely?

Are you kidding? Seriously, think how riduclous that sounds.

[Father Ted]

After thinking about it we really should keep Holloway for next season. He knows the players and i can't see any new manager coming in and getting us promoted straight away. No good managers will want to come to us now. Ollie got QPR promoted from League 1 so he is our best bet.

Name me a good alternative that will get us out of League 1 in one season?

Davies and Allardyce won't want to come here now.

Now is the time for stability, i know some fans are saying get rid of all the losers that took us down but we shouldn't let them escape.

They are all under contract and can get us out of this mess.

Our strikers in League 1 now look superb, Fryatt, Howard, Campbell, Hume could all bag 20 goals easily in my view.

I'm angry and devastated Ollie has took us down but we should stick with him. He knows the players and may even learn from his mistakes and sign players who are hungry to play for the shirt. I'm sure he will bring in more youngsters too.

If we do stick with Holloway i think we can storm League 1 and come 1st but sacking another manager could leave us in more relegation trouble.

If Dowie does come in and starts badly, signs the wrong players like Allen, we may end up in exactly the same predictament as this season.

Stick with Ollie and we will come straight back up.

Typical Maddog post and sig

[Eastern Fox]

He has the credentials to become a decent manager

I'm sure he might be eventually, but I would rather he established himself at another club first. Next season is not the right time to take a gamble with someone like him.

[maddog]

Typical Maddog post and sig

I've already explained my sig.

No one has named a better alternative to Ollie yet who will definately come here.

[renards]

Ok, & get who in?

If you have an employee who has failed and not up to the job, you get rid.

You don't keep them whilst wondering who to employ

Edit... McClarens just said on SSN he's waiting for the phone to ring!!

[Tilley]

I've already explained my sig.

No one has named a better alternative to Ollie yet who will definately come here.

I know,

I'm still waiting too.

[Matt]

If you have an employee who has failed and not up to the job, you get rid.

You don't keep them whilst wondering who to employ

Edit... McClarens just said on SSN he's waiting for the phone to ring!!

I was just about to post that

[Eastern Fox]

No one has named a better alternative to Ollie yet who will definately come here.

How can we know who will definately come here? Do want us to start phoning up unemployed managers? Steve Beaglehole would probably be better than Holloway, he's already at the club. Anyone who isn't a self-pitying, inept bald pric.k would a better alternative.

[davieG]

I've already explained my sig.

No one has named a better alternative to Ollie yet who will definately come here.

I know,

I'm still waiting too.

because it's a stupid question - how would anyone know who would be prepared to come here when their are so many unknowns and it's not a valid reason for keeping Holloway.

[breadandcheese]

I've already explained my sig.

No one has named a better alternative to Ollie yet who will definately come here.

Let me turn the question round slightly. What is it Holloway is trying to build? How is he looking to set-up a team? What sort of shape does he want the team to have?

9 months in, one relegation later, I cannot answer the question. I cannot see what he is trying to achieve on the pitch through his selections or tactics.

[Dames]

Get rid.

I've kept out of the arguement about keeping him or not but i think its time to ship him out.

The team he picked yesterday was nothing short of diabolical, how the fook was it meant to go for the win and keep us in the divison.

The oaf set up shop to contain them and hope results go our way.

WELL GUESS WHAT THEY DIDNT YOU fooking MORON!

[maddog]

because it's a stupid question - how would anyone know who would be prepared to come here when their are so many unknowns and it's not a valid reason for keeping Holloway.

The reasons are on another post.

Surely you must realise Davie that the reason we were relegated this season is because of the number of manager changes.

So why would sacking Ollie get us up next season?

I know that theres no way Ollie will use the same approach as this season after being relegated.

He has got a team promoted from the division we are in, that tells me keep him.

I also can't see a new manager coming in and being successful immediately.

[davieG]

Let me turn the question round slightly. What is it Holloway is trying to build? How is he looking to set-up a team? What sort of shape does he want the team to have?

9 months in, one relegation later, I cannot answer the question. I cannot see what he is trying to achieve on the pitch through his selections or tactics.

Neither could maddog up until an hour ago when he must have had a visit from God saying Keep Ollie, it's certainly a change of mind of biblical proportions