Now is the time to stick by the manager

[breadandcheese]

The reasons are on another post.

Surely you must realise Davie that the reason we were relegated this season is because of the number of manager changes.

So who would sacking Ollie get us up next season?

I know that theres no way Ollie will use the same approach as this season after being relegated.

He has got a team promoted from the division we are in, that tells me keep him.

I also can't see a new manager coming in and being successful immediately.

How do you know this?

From the interviews Holloway's given, he doesn't appear to know where it went wrong, other than over the course of a season.

[renards]

Get rid.

I've kept out of the arguement about keeping him or not but i think its time to ship him out.

The team he picked yesterday was nothing short of diabolical, how the fook was it meant to go for the win and keep us in the divison.

The oaf set up shop to contain them and hope results go our way.

WELL GUESS WHAT THEY DIDNT YOU fooking MORON!

Totally agree. I can't believe people still think he can do it.

Get rid he hasn't got it, he has proved this very convincinly.

[Father Ted]

I've already explained my sig.

No one has named a better alternative to Ollie yet who will definately come here.

Steve Mclaren, Darren Ferguson, Paul Ince, Steve Walsh/Gerry Taggart, Billy Davies, Thracian, there are fooking hundreds!

[Sparky]

Mike Newell could be a good shout.

Unemployed and probably wants to get back in the game. Has not been a manager for too long, but since he has he's got Hartlepool promoted from League 2 and Luton promoted to the Championship as champions of League 1 with 98 points. The following season Luton finished 10th in the Championship but left the season after because he wasn't happy at Luton selling all of there players. Im pretty sure he turned us down a few seasons ago but im not sure he would do the same now.

Good shout

[renards]

The reasons are on another post.

Surely you must realise Davie that the reason we were relegated this season is because of the number of manager changes.

So why would sacking Ollie get us up next season?

I know that theres no way Ollie will use the same approach as this season after being relegated.

He has got a team promoted from the division we are in, that tells me keep him.

I also can't see a new manager coming in and being successful immediately.

Feeling a bit lonely in your faith in the clown.

[Benjani]

This is ridiculous. Why is anyone even contemplating wanting to keep Ollie as our manager? It is not going to happen, 100% he will go. Sheff Utd were on there way to getting relegated this season before appointing a new manager.

We should have sacked him weeks ago, and if we had then I am pretty sure we would still be in the Championship right now.

It's time for a change, one that will hopefully last at least 3 years.

He failed in the transfer market, so what makes you think he will get that right this summer?

He's a clown. maddog are you Ollie's wife

[Wycombe Fox]

Why give Holloway a chance to send us down to League 2?

What has anyone seen from him this season to convince them that he's the man to bring us back up?

He seems totally spent - no ideas whatsoever.

I'm not interested in "he got QPR out of this division" or "who else is there?", WHAT has anyone seen from Holloway, whilst in charge of Leciester City for 32 games, that convinces them that he's right for us in League 1?

In his 31 league games we won 9 times, scoring only 28 goals. Take out the two games where we scored 4 goals (one game was against 10 men remember) and that means that in 29 of Holloway's games we only scored 20 times. That is absolutely shocking.

Do I want to keep a manager whose ineptitude causes us to score 20 times in 29 games? Do I ****!

During his 32-match reign we managed to score more than 1 goal in only 5 games.

My mates kept saying to me that Holloway's OK - he's a bit of a laugh. Well it ain't very ****ing funny today. If I wanted a laugh I'd have gone to the Ricoh.

I don't want a manager who makes me laugh, I want a manager who gets my team playing football, passing to feet, moving into space, attacking with flair and when Plan A doesn't work has a Plan B and a Plan C if necessary. For those that have seen City regularly this season, has he demonstrated any of these?

I don't want a manager doing ****ing media work when he's supposed to be managing my club.

So to sum-up, next season has already started as far as I'm concerned and as far as I know Holloway is still manager.

My opinion is that we should get rid now, today, or we're going to be finding that there's more string left inside that yo-yo and we're going to be going even lower before we start to spin back up again.

[maddog]

How do you know this?

From the interviews Holloway's given, he doesn't appear to know where it went wrong, other than over the course of a season.

Theres no way any person in the universe is stupid enough to manage exactly the same as a relegation season in the next season, not even Walsh.

I just fear that if we change the manager again now, the new manager will come in and start slowly, leaving more fans calling for the new manager's head, and it will just be a downward spiral like this season.

Sticking with a manager with success in this division, and one who 100% knows the players when there are few alternatives just seems obvious to me.

I just feel the only way we will get out of League 1 in one season is stick with Ollie. Ollie will be desperate to turn it around and repay the fans now. A new manager may only be there for the money. Sticking with Ollie seems the most obvious thing to me now we have been relegated.

Mclaren and his umbrella can fook off. If he comes in he will certainly only be there for the money, just like when he wouldn't resign for England so he would get a HUGE payoff.

[Dames]

And hes Ginger like Megson

That did it for me that did tbh.

[Mickyblueeyes]

Unfortunately it seems Ollie buckled under the pressure of managing a "big club" or one where success was expected rather then merely appreciated.If he couldnt handle it in the championship I dont think he'd be able to in League 1.In the Championship we were looking to compete with the top 6 in League 1 the tittle must be the aim most fans will want.To add to that he would be under immense pressure after this year and people will be waiting for a slip up.Ollie's time is done here both need a fresh start.

As for a manager, I've said it before, its got to be Richard Money.He is a no nonsense manager with a good eye for players.To add to that he has a good record working with youngster which could be imperative next year.He also has a decent knowledge of foreign talent.

[Brainy]

After thinking about it we really should keep Holloway for next season. He knows the players and i can't see any new manager coming in and getting us promoted straight away. No good managers will want to come to us now. Ollie got QPR promoted from League 1 so he is our best bet.

Name me a good alternative that will get us out of League 1 in one season?

Davies and Allardyce won't want to come here now.

Now is the time for stability, i know some fans are saying get rid of all the losers that took us down but we shouldn't let them escape.

They are all under contract and can get us out of this mess.

Our strikers in League 1 now look superb, Fryatt, Howard, Campbell, Hume could all bag 20 goals easily in my view.

I'm angry and devastated Ollie has took us down but we should stick with him. He knows the players and may even learn from his mistakes and sign players who are hungry to play for the shirt. I'm sure he will bring in more youngsters too.

If we do stick with Holloway i think we can storm League 1 and come 1st but sacking another manager could leave us in more relegation trouble.

If Dowie does come in and starts badly, signs the wrong players like Allen, we may end up in exactly the same predictament as this season.

Stick with Ollie and we will come straight back up.

[Dames]

To maddog

[maddog]

Here comes the old lets attack maddog posts.

It's gonna be the same old season

[breadandcheese]

Theres no way any person in the universe is stupid enough to manage exactly the same as a relegation season in the next season, not even Walsh.

I understand your fears of a new manager coming in, but right now my greater fear is whether Holloway is competent.

You cannot hand on your heart say that Holloway knows where it all went wrong. If he knew where it was going wrong, he would have rectified it during the season, rather than letting us suffer relegation.

In the cold light of day, do you think Holloway is looking at the season thinking, "We struggled for goals throughout the season. Should I have made our top scorer automatic first-choice upfront? No, I was right to play him mostly in midfield where he proved ineffective."

[Father Ted]

I'm fed up of this. Just get rid of Ollie ASAP! Forget Dowie, Davies, etc. We have our very own Mourinho on this forum and his name is Thracian. Get him in! (no joke!)

[Webbo]

Why would Grayson leave the championship to come here? If Milan wanted Newell he's had 3 opportunities to employ him already.

I still believe that it's best to keep Ollie as he's had a chance to assess the playing staff and knows who to get rid of and who to keep. Employing anyone else is as big a gamble as letting Ollie stay.

[Suffolk_fox]

Because changing a manager has always done wonders for our club.

Because having another manager bringing in his own people. players and ideas will clarify things.

Because all the top men in football will be looking at joining a 1st Division outfit.

Because we have been such a mighty force during the last 4 years.

Because.... so many of our fans haven't got a ****ing clue.

[kendalfox]

Lets say you employ a builder to convert your attic to an extra room...

He promises a top notch job, tells you that his work will add £20,000 to the value of your house. Tells you he's succesfully done it before for other customers.

However, he consistently fails to deliver. For example his workmen look a bit dodgy, a couple are obviously too old to be climbing up the attic stairs with heavy materials and there's a couple of foreigners who don't appear to ever be on site. There's one or two who look like highly skilled and motivated craftsmen, but the rest don't appear to be bothered at all.

The builder makes basic schoolboy errors like not strengthening the floor joists, installing the velux windows during a rain storm and not insulating the roof. So you keep protesting that you're not sure the build is going well, but your builder keeps saying everything is going to be okay, trust him he's done it before, he knows you're a little concerned, but he'll pull it out of the bag, so against your better judgement you go along with him, support him, make plenty of cups of tea and cheer him on when things appear to be not going well. However ultimately you're not happy with the quality of the job – the plastering isn't rendered properly, some of the electrical points don't work, the staircase buckles when you climb up, the velux window doesn't close properly and there appears to be a draught running through the loft so you give him one last day to rectify the job... but on the last day of the build the whole loft collapses and falls into the floor below...

Would you ask him back to do the downstairs extension?

[Suffolk_fox]

Lets say you employ a builder to convert your attic to an extra room...

He promises a top notch job, tells you that his work will add £20,000 to the value of your house. Tells you he's succesfully done it before for other customers.

However, he consistently fails to deliver. For example his workmen look a bit dodgy, a couple are obviously too old to be climbing up the attic stairs with heavy materials and there's a couple of foreigners who don't appear to ever be on site. There's one or two who look like highly skilled and motivated craftsmen, but the rest don't appear to be bothered at all.

The builder makes basic schoolboy errors like not strengthening the floor joists, installing the velux windows during a rain storm and not insulating the roof. So you keep protesting that you're not sure the build is going well, but your builder keeps saying everything is going to be okay, trust him he's done it before, he knows you're a little concerned, but he'll pull it out of the bag, so against your better judgement you go along with him, support him, make plenty of cups of tea and cheer him on when things appear to be not going well. However ultimately you're not happy with the quality of the job – the plastering isn't rendered properly, some of the electrical points don't work, the staircase buckles when you climb up, the velux window doesn't close properly and there appears to be a draught running through the loft so you give him one last day to rectify the job... but on the last day of the build the whole loft collapses and falls into the floor below...

Would you ask him back to do the downstairs extension?

Depends - if the building has been looking like falling down for years, anyone would be hard pushed to save it...

[Wycombe Fox]

For you fans who think it would be a gamble to get rid of Holloway and bring someone else in, what is it that you have seen in Holloway, WHILST HE'S BEEN AT LEICESTER, that makes you think sticking with him isn't a gamble?

What has he done in his 32 games that makes you think he should be allowed to stay?

There seem to be plenty of reasons why we should get rid but I'm at a loss as to why others think we should keep him based upon what has happened here.

I'm not trying to incite any abuse here, but I haven't seen or heard anything that personally makes me think we should keep him.

[Eastern Fox]

Theres no way any person in the universe is stupid enough to manage exactly the same as a relegation season in the next season, not even Walsh.

You're assuming Holloway understands what he's done wrong this season in terms of tactics, man-management, signings etc. and knows how to correct his mistakes. From the self-pitying drivel we get after every match, I wouldn't have any confidence he would improve himself as a manager next season.

[Messi]

I'm fed up of this. Just get rid of Ollie ASAP! Forget Dowie, Davies, etc. We have our very own Mourinho on this forum and his name is Thracian. Get him in! (no joke!)

[Thracian]

You're assuming Holloway understands what he's done wrong this season in terms of tactics, man-management, signings etc. and knows how to correct his mistakes. From the self-pitying drivel we get after every match, I wouldn't have any confidence he would improve himself as a manager next season.

Me neither. And I'm amazed that there's anyone left who seriously believes he will change significantly or ever be a seriously inspiring manager.

[maddog]

For you fans who think it would be a gamble to get rid of Holloway and bring someone else in, what is it that you have seen in Holloway, WHILST HE'S BEEN AT LEICESTER, that makes you think sticking with him isn't a gamble?

What has he done in his 32 games that makes you think he should be allowed to stay?

There seem to be plenty of reasons why we should get rid but I'm at a loss as to why others think we should keep him based upon what has happened here.

I'm not trying to incite any abuse here, but I haven't seen or heard anything that personally makes me think we should keep him.

Sticking with him is a gamble. But bringing someone else in a much bigger gamble after it clearly didn't work this season.

[Naboo]

Lets say you employ a builder to convert your attic to an extra room...

He promises a top notch job, tells you that his work will add £20,000 to the value of your house. Tells you he's succesfully done it before for other customers.

However, he consistently fails to deliver. For example his workmen look a bit dodgy, a couple are obviously too old to be climbing up the attic stairs with heavy materials and there's a couple of foreigners who don't appear to ever be on site. There's one or two who look like highly skilled and motivated craftsmen, but the rest don't appear to be bothered at all.

The builder makes basic schoolboy errors like not strengthening the floor joists, installing the velux windows during a rain storm and not insulating the roof. So you keep protesting that you're not sure the build is going well, but your builder keeps saying everything is going to be okay, trust him he's done it before, he knows you're a little concerned, but he'll pull it out of the bag, so against your better judgement you go along with him, support him, make plenty of cups of tea and cheer him on when things appear to be not going well. However ultimately you're not happy with the quality of the job – the plastering isn't rendered properly, some of the electrical points don't work, the staircase buckles when you climb up, the velux window doesn't close properly and there appears to be a draught running through the loft so you give him one last day to rectify the job... but on the last day of the build the whole loft collapses and falls into the floor below...

Would you ask him back to do the downstairs extension?

So It's Downstairs Next Then ???