Fez of Mahrez Posted 5 May 2008 Posted 5 May 2008 As long as we give Gradel, King and Wesolowski the responsibility they've earned, I don't mind too much about the rest.
Tevez Posted 5 May 2008 Posted 5 May 2008 Methinks if Andy King plays alot next season, I think he'll be pretty good centre/attacking midfielder.
Daggers Posted 5 May 2008 Posted 5 May 2008 This shit about how tough the Championship was and how tough Division One is doesn't wash with me. Modern football can be fast. But tough? Some players might be hard as nails but the referees ensure that they can only behave like fairies. Every time a player goes down now it's a foul for some obscure reason or another. Absolutely. I'm sick of hearing how 'tuff' Division Three is. Absolute knobcheese on toast - Premier teams say the same about the Championship...it's all about the drop-off of talent (exponentially) as you pass through the Divisions not an increase of violence. Where the reliance on youth will come into play is that we may be saying goodbye to almost everyone with experience for one reason or another. I hope we retain Hume, I hope the moronic chanting of his name has stuffed him with a desire to carry on wearing the shirt and I really hope Stearman will stay too.
Manwell Pablo Posted 5 May 2008 Posted 5 May 2008 A bit of common sense is needed really. Alot of our players made their names in this league, the ones that didn't have never needed to drop to this level of shitness. They are more than capable of getting out of this division under the right guidance. Not that I'm saying certain youngsters shouldn't get their chance Gradel, King, Weso, I'd have Sheehan back in this league tbh but I think it's fair to say that aint gonna happen.
lavrentis Posted 5 May 2008 Posted 5 May 2008 Would Elvis do a job in league 1? If he got his blue suade shoes on I'm sure he'll be shook up.
moseeds Posted 6 May 2008 Posted 6 May 2008 I think you somewhat miss the point when people talk about the physicality of lower-league football. It's not really about kicking someone straight off the park, that goes on at every level, it's more about the literal physical strength of the opposition you face. How many times has our relatively small-side been completely out muscled over the last few years by the likes of Preston, Stoke and even Derby with big, burly defenses? How effective has the "speed and skill" of, say, DJ Campbell really been when he's being frequently out-shoved by some twenty foot leviathan shielding the ball? ... What do you expect when the team's only tactic is to hoof the ball as high as possible in the statistically impossible hope that our midget striker will outjump everybody else? Surely the out-muscling is more an indicment of poor tactical play rather than anything else? Playing to our strengths for longer than 10 minutes in every game might have resulted in a complete different story this season.
Ultra Posted 6 May 2008 Posted 6 May 2008 Most of the top teams in League 1 (apart from Forest) this season have been teams who play passing football rather than hoofball. If our youngsters adopt this concept, which is what they're used to at reserves/academy level, we may settle quickly there.
Thracian Posted 6 May 2008 Posted 6 May 2008 What do you expect when the team's only tactic is to hoof the ball as high as possible in the statistically impossible hope that our midget striker will outjump everybody else? Surely the out-muscling is more an indicment of poor tactical play rather than anything else? Playing to our strengths for longer than 10 minutes in every game might have resulted in a complete different story this season. You're absolutely right. Played properly the hunks would just be stretched to breaking point and frustration. The secret is to keep the ball moving and not let the opposition have a moment to settle before they're off chasing another shadow. Even at Academy level there've been far bigger teams than Leicester's who's first instinct was to let City know they were about. Cardiff were a classic example not many months back. All Celtic passion and aggression. Eight-nil I think the result was.
SOCCERROO FOX Posted 6 May 2008 Posted 6 May 2008 Young and Hungry Mixed in with a few of the experienced guys McCauley and the like and im all for it. I can see Ashley Chambers being a star in League 1
Thracian Posted 6 May 2008 Posted 6 May 2008 Young and Hungry Mixed in with a few of the experienced guys McCauley and the like and im all for it. I can see Ashley Chambers being a star in League 1 The trouble with McAuley is he's slow and can't pass. Worley's looked fragile up to Saturday but he's a footballer who can read the game and pass the ball so if they can toughen him up PDQ he's perhaps the way forward or someone like him. If we're going to attack and support high up the pitch we have to have fast defenders.
The People's Hero Posted 6 May 2008 Posted 6 May 2008 The trouble with McAuley is he's slow and can't pass. Worley's looked fragile up to Saturday but he's a footballer who can read the game and pass the ball so if they can toughen him up PDQ he's perhaps the way forward or someone like him. If we're going to attack and support high up the pitch we have to have fast defenders. that he's shit.
SOCCERROO FOX Posted 6 May 2008 Posted 6 May 2008 The trouble with McAuley is he's slow and can't pass. Worley's looked fragile up to Saturday but he's a footballer who can read the game and pass the ball so if they can toughen him up PDQ he's perhaps the way forward or someone like him. If we're going to attack and support high up the pitch we have to have fast defenders. I mainly said players like MaCauley because he was the skipper on the weekend
Simon Posted 6 May 2008 Posted 6 May 2008 The trouble with McAuley is he's slow and can't pass. Worley's looked fragile up to Saturday but he's a footballer who can read the game and pass the ball so if they can toughen him up PDQ he's perhaps the way forward or someone like him. If we're going to attack and support high up the pitch we have to have fast defenders. I'd take the £1m that Magilton will offer and tell him where to go. It's patently obvious to me that Mattock isn't going to be here, and I'd be surprised if Howard, Clemence (despite his 'Captain's' words) and Oakley are here much into pre season. Hume will be gone (I'm sad to say) and so will DJ Campbell. Any chances of signing Hendrie permanently evaporated the moment that we got relegated. Hopefully Wesolowski (why the fook was he dropped on Sunday?!), King and Gradel will form the fulcrum of a balanced, forward thinking midfield to lead us forward, with the likes of The Sappletiser and Ashley Chambers being slowly blooded up front. In fact, fook it, Wesolowski is the only one with any gob on the pitch so failing us signing anyone else, might as well make him captain too.
Thracian Posted 6 May 2008 Posted 6 May 2008 I'd take the £1m that Magilton will offer and tell him where to go. It's patently obvious to me that Mattock isn't going to be here, and I'd be surprised if Howard, Clemence (despite his 'Captain's' words) and Oakley are here much into pre season. Hume will be gone (I'm sad to say) and so will DJ Campbell. Any chances of signing Hendrie permanently evaporated the moment that we got relegated.Hopefully Wesolowski (why the fook was he dropped on Sunday?!), King and Gradel will form the fulcrum of a balanced, forward thinking midfield to lead us forward, with the likes of The Sappletiser and Ashley Chambers being slowly blooded up front. In fact, fook it, Wesolowski is the only one with any gob on the pitch so failing us signing anyone else, might as well make him captain too. Weso looks a natural captain.
Finnegan Posted 6 May 2008 Posted 6 May 2008 Weso looks a natural captain. Why? Because he runs around a lot and gets stuck in? Bollocks - to that end you could give it to Hume or Stears, too, and still get no-where. Being an example to the rest of your team isn't the sole role of a Captain, leadership is far, far more. Pardon the cross-sport example but I can't think of a Captain anywhere in the world, in any sport, as powerful as Martin Johnson over the last decade. He brought steel, leadership, dominance and no-nonsense authority with him and on countless occasions his rousing won games for Leicester and England. What proof do we have that that's the sort of person Wesolowski is? Again, I really don't mean to insinuate that hardy leaders and real grafting players have to be knackered thirty-somethings; all I'm asking for is - as Manwell put it - a bit of common sense. Yes, I'd like to see some youngsters given a chance, yes I wouldn't mind if the average age of our starting eleven was on the lesser side of 25. But we field a team full of teenagers in the desperate hope that they bond and develope together into a competent, league winning side and just you watch us land on our arse. I say again - we want balance. Use your brains before your hearts, boys. This year will take guile, determination and care - not a gun-ho complacency.
The People's Hero Posted 6 May 2008 Posted 6 May 2008 How can you have a captain who's legs are made out of old ice-lolly sticks? I'm sure I saw an episode of Blue Peter where you could make Wesolowski before.
Finnegan Posted 6 May 2008 Posted 6 May 2008 How can you have a captain who's legs are made out of old ice-lolly sticks?I'm sure I saw an episode of Blue Peter where you could make Wesolowski before. Sad, but true. I LOL'd tbh.
The People's Hero Posted 6 May 2008 Posted 6 May 2008 Unfortunately, due to their proximity on the pitch, you had to sticky-back plastic the other central midfielder to him as well.
DanTheFox07 Posted 6 May 2008 Posted 6 May 2008 And why no mention of Billy McKay?While Sappzilla's knocking his goals in who do you think is helping Kingy and Beswick do the spacework required to create those chances? Billy McKay. The bloke just never stops. He makes the runs, sees the passes, delivers em simply and has a sharp eye for goal too. He's another like Beswick who must be a real pleasure to play alongside because if you make a run McKay will do his level best to find you with an early pass. Whether he'll ever be quite big enough or strong enough to be a number 9 I doubt but as a visionary player just behind the main striker or front two, he'll always create things. Speaking of sappleton does is there any chance of us losing him to another club...... i would have thought he would get a lot more first team opportunities next season.
TrickyTrev Posted 6 May 2008 Posted 6 May 2008 I suspect we are going to have to rely on a lot of our youngsters because they are the only players we have that are not on Championship come Premiership wages. Thankfully we seem to have a good bunch that are actually ready for the first team and are used to winning things. Here is to hoping that Weso, King, Sappleton, Beswick, Porter, Gradel and whoever else can make the step up. If they can, it would make our job a damn site easier.
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