wirralsimon Posted 8 July 2008 Posted 8 July 2008 Quote: I am joining up to be a British National Party member soon. My Cousin is thinking of standing for them here in Hinckley, I hope he does I will back him all the way.. Kind Regards Captain Cubbio 23 The BNP (and the National Front before it) used to be openly racist, but realisedthey would run into legal problems and be unelectable if that carried on so Nick Griffin has reinvented the party as one built around 'common sense'. They latch onto communities where there is general disaffection, blame it on immigration (even in communities where there isn't any) and say they are standing up for the working man, and this gets them votes, but make no mistake they are still the same racist scumbags underneath. I can't see them getting into Givernment because nothing unites them except a hatred of non-white people, there is no unifying theme or workable plan behind that. Like others here, I was a an active Trade Unionist and Labour party member inthe days of the Anti-Nazi League, Rock against racism etc. My Grandfather was an active trade unionist in Germany before the war. He was sent to prison for it and his second wife lost her entire family inthe concerntration camps. I do not know if Captain Cubbio is a Troll or hopelessly misguided but he can rest assured that I have nothing but contempt for him. Simon
acooling08 Posted 8 July 2008 Author Posted 8 July 2008 so the general view on the BNP is that their nobs :)
The People's Hero Posted 8 July 2008 Posted 8 July 2008 Quote: I am joining up to be a British National Party member soon. My Cousin is thinking of standing for them here in Hinckley, I hope he does I will back him all the way.. Kind Regards Captain Cubbio 23 So that's where the ebay proceeds are going? BNP coffers? That's the last T Shirt (With No Stains!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) I ever buy from you.
Finnegan Posted 8 July 2008 Posted 8 July 2008 so the general view on the BNP is that their nobs :) Yes.
Uncle Albert Posted 8 July 2008 Posted 8 July 2008 so the general view on the BNP is that their nobs :) BNP are the biggest group of tossers in Britain. How they can have the nerve to say certain things is unberlievable. I dont think I am going to vote when I can.
BlueSi13 Posted 8 July 2008 Posted 8 July 2008 The BNP are the shame of this country but they sadly seem to be growing at a surprising rate. Even more sad is the fact that people are plonking their head in the sand over the issue and not taking them on, for instance when that bloke who ran for London mayor got up to give his speech, many walked out, am i the only one in thinking that those people should have stayed and been brave enough to stomach the hate and bile been spewed out? instead of running away and pretending that people didn't actually vote for him in a perfectly democratic election. The main political parties should be listening to the people more before its too late, and not let the BNP capitalize on the discontent and frustration currently drifting across the nation, the BNP could grow to foul everything we've ever stood for. For in a way we will all suffer in some way if they succeed Gays Blacks Asians Muslims Catholics Jews Any kind of foreigner Irish & Anti-Fascist English Indeed it was interesting to read that the BNP don't actually class Islam as the main "threat" to the country rather the "Anglo-Saxon Celtic Liberal-Leftists" It just goes to show you the shear breadth of their hate and ignorance. Any of their arguments can be obliterated with good knowledge and belief. It's just a shame the real parties aren't doing so as yet. I believe this country has been on the verge of a modern, peaceful and successful future for many years, a beacon of how peoples and faiths can work together and create something great again! (Leicester's a great example, we could be something special after all the regeneration is finished!) if only the media and government could see the potential we have and re-connect with us on ground level and stop telling us that dark forces are everywhere out to destroy us (global-warming, terrorism, bird-flu, religious extremists, hoodies etc) thats where the BNP thrive, on the sense of fear and tension thats generated. What we need is messages of Positivity, Hope and Optimism instead of Negativity and Despair. Sorry if i went on a bit!
placidcasual Posted 8 July 2008 Posted 8 July 2008 I dont think I am going to vote when I can. People not voting allows extremist parties like the BNP to thrive. Supporters of these parties are more motivated to get out and vote.
Uncle Albert Posted 8 July 2008 Posted 8 July 2008 People not voting allows extremist parties like the BNP to thrive. Supporters of these parties are more motivated to get out and vote. Suppose but I am not bothered really to be honest in who is in power, unless it was BNP. I take it the chances of BNP being in power are pretty slim?
act smiley Posted 8 July 2008 Posted 8 July 2008 Nick Griffin isn't going to become Prime Minister any time soon but they are in a position where if they crank up the propaganda and have an effective targetting of disenfranchised areas and such, they could get the odd MP and control the odd local council, which is a scary enough thought for anyone who isn't complete scum.
filbertway Posted 8 July 2008 Posted 8 July 2008 BNP have whitwick (I think... chunk ) I'm shocked that the asians and black and anybody who isn't white christian haven't been chased out of the town with pitch forks and fire to be honest.
Head Honcho Posted 8 July 2008 Posted 8 July 2008 The BNP are the shame of this country but they sadly seem to be growing at a surprising rate.Even more sad is the fact that people are plonking their head in the sand over the issue and not taking them on, for instance when that bloke who ran for London mayor got up to give his speech, many walked out, am i the only one in thinking that those people should have stayed and been brave enough to stomach the hate and bile been spewed out? instead of running away and pretending that people didn't actually vote for him in a perfectly democratic election. The main political parties should be listening to the people more before its too late, and not let the BNP capitalize on the discontent and frustration currently drifting across the nation, the BNP could grow to foul everything we've ever stood for. For in a way we will all suffer in some way if they succeed Gays Blacks Asians Muslims Catholics Jews Any kind of foreigner Irish & Anti-Fascist English Indeed it was interesting to read that the BNP don't actually class Islam as the main "threat" to the country rather the "Anglo-Saxon Celtic Liberal-Leftists" It just goes to show you the shear breadth of their hate and ignorance. Any of their arguments can be obliterated with good knowledge and belief. It's just a shame the real parties aren't doing so as yet. I believe this country has been on the verge of a modern, peaceful and successful future for many years, a beacon of how peoples and faiths can work together and create something great again! (Leicester's a great example, we could be something special after all the regeneration is finished!) if only the media and government could see the potential we have and re-connect with us on ground level and stop telling us that dark forces are everywhere out to destroy us (global-warming, terrorism, bird-flu, religious extremists, hoodies etc) thats where the BNP thrive, on the sense of fear and tension thats generated. What we need is messages of Positivity, Hope and Optimism instead of Negativity and Despair. Sorry if i went on a bit! .............are we still on about the BNP ? I only ask as The Islamic Party of Britain would make many of the above suffer also-but then we can't criticise them can we
wirralsimon Posted 8 July 2008 Posted 8 July 2008 .............are we still on about the BNP ?I only ask as The Islamic Party of Britain would make many of the above suffer also-but then we can't criticise them can we
Daggers Posted 8 July 2008 Posted 8 July 2008 .............are we still on about the BNP ?I only ask as The Islamic Party of Britain would make many of the above suffer also-but then we can't criticise them can we Aside from the fact that you are mixing a religion up with a political party, I see now reason why they can not be criticised. Wrong thread for it mind...there was a nifty one about religion where no one with faith could manage to defend it.
Head Honcho Posted 8 July 2008 Posted 8 July 2008 Aside from the fact that you are mixing a religion up with a political party, I see now reason why they can not be criticised. Wrong thread for it mind...there was a nifty one about religion where no one with faith could manage to defend it. Am I? Sounds political to me! The Islamic Party of Britain began its work in 1989 with the purpose of encouraging public debate about the Islamic alternative. Being the very first national Islamic political organisation in the UK and the only Islamic political party in the non-Muslim Western world, it has helped Muslims to gain confidence in the political discussion, it has researched Islamic answers to contemporary issues and come up with convincing policies on economy, environment, health, education, social affairs, international relations, and many other aspects of modern life. It has provided accurate, well presented information about Islam to the general public, and many have found their way to Islam through its dynamic approach. http://www.islamicparty.com/default.htm Just for their record here are their views on homosexuality: On homosexuality it says that it is a condition needing treatment, and not to be tolerated. It also says that homosexuals should be put to death for a "public display of lewdness"
Shrenchel Posted 8 July 2008 Posted 8 July 2008 If you ever want a laugh bash in BNP TV on youtube. Some of their party videos are fooking hilarious. BNP politicans scrabbling round picking up crisp packets in parks banging on about how you don't see Tony Blair doing this do you?! Nah, because he's an actual politician instead of a facist goon in a BHS suit so is capable of running an infrastructure where people are paid to clean parks. ******.
Ultra Posted 9 July 2008 Posted 9 July 2008 Am I? Sounds political to me! The Islamic Party of Britain began its work in 1989 with the purpose of encouraging public debate about the Islamic alternative. Being the very first national Islamic political organisation in the UK and the only Islamic political party in the non-Muslim Western world, it has helped Muslims to gain confidence in the political discussion, it has researched Islamic answers to contemporary issues and come up with convincing policies on economy, environment, health, education, social affairs, international relations, and many other aspects of modern life. It has provided accurate, well presented information about Islam to the general public, and many have found their way to Islam through its dynamic approach. http://www.islamicparty.com/default.htm Just for their record here are their views on homosexuality: On homosexuality it says that it is a condition needing treatment, and not to be tolerated. It also says that homosexuals should be put to death for a "public display of lewdness" But how many seats have this party ever won?
Ultra Posted 9 July 2008 Posted 9 July 2008 BNP have whitwick (I think... chunk ) They have a seat in Whitwick, along with Labour and the Tories. They also have council seats in East Goscote and Hugglescote, while in Leicester last year they ran Labour close in New Parks and Eyres Monsell. Sadly, their appeal extends some way beyond the northern mill towns.
stez Posted 9 July 2008 Posted 9 July 2008 They have a seat in Whitwick, along with Labour and the Tories.They also have council seats in East Goscote and Hugglescote, while in Leicester last year they ran Labour close in New Parks and Eyres Monsell. Sadly, their appeal extends some way beyond the northern mill towns. being from east goscote it made me sad when this happened, then reading comments from people of east goscote re. the pub closing and it becoming an indian restaurant, some very narrow minded,ignorant, racist views, which me and my mates of east goscote of yesteryear certainly never held, i can see why the BNP now have a seat there.
wirralsimon Posted 9 July 2008 Posted 9 July 2008 Am I? Sounds political to me! The Islamic Party of Britain began its work in 1989 with the purpose of encouraging public debate about the Islamic alternative. Being the very first national Islamic political organisation in the UK and the only Islamic political party in the non-Muslim Western world, it has helped Muslims to gain confidence in the political discussion, it has researched Islamic answers to contemporary issues and come up with convincing policies on economy, environment, health, education, social affairs, international relations, and many other aspects of modern life. It has provided accurate, well presented information about Islam to the general public, and many have found their way to Islam through its dynamic approach. http://www.islamicparty.com/default.htm Just for their record here are their views on homosexuality: On homosexuality it says that it is a condition needing treatment, and not to be tolerated. It also says that homosexuals should be put to death for a "public display of lewdness" To be fair there are rignt-wing Christian Groups in the US (And probably some over here if I looked hard enough) that would have no problem at all with the Islamic party of Britains approach on Homosexuality! There used to be an organisation called 'Conservatives for Families' that wasn't too far short of that either. Even our own Tory Party legislated to make official acceptance of Homosexuality illegal. Simon
Dr The Singh Posted 9 July 2008 Posted 9 July 2008 Aside from the fact that you are mixing a religion up with a political party, I see now reason why they can not be criticised. Wrong thread for it mind...there was a nifty one about religion where no one with faith could manage to defend it. Sorry it's off topic, but I disagree Daggers, many defended there faith, your arguement that the 'supreme entity' doesn't exist was stronger but couldn't discount the fact that there could be a ebtity beyond our sense, no matter how unprobable. Also the arguement that religion was a cause of many i'll's was also strong but could not discount the good that alot of faiths have done. The arguement of totality of religions was also strong but many faiths do not have this concept, hence not totally true!!!
Daggers Posted 9 July 2008 Posted 9 July 2008 I subscribe to the Dawkins statistical proof of the improbability of any Deity being in existence.
The People's Hero Posted 9 July 2008 Posted 9 July 2008 I'm re-reading Dawkins at the moment. He excites me with his logic and reason.
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