colbo68 Posted 29 July 2008 Posted 29 July 2008 can anyone tell me why pearson is sticking with the donkey up front? I cant forgive him for his lack of effort last season but he seems to be the same this season too - if the ball is played a yard in front or to the side of him he JUST DOES NOT chase it. His aerial ability is suspect (he dont jump) - Martin Taylor won everything in the air this eve. I just do not understand the persistence with Howard and do not want to see him as first choice striker this year
Austin Posted 29 July 2008 Posted 29 July 2008 Cos everyone knows .. Steve O gets the round in after the Game FACT.
C-man Posted 29 July 2008 Posted 29 July 2008 Harsh. He's not been great for us but some people just expect him to be Peter Crouch.
JoeyB Posted 29 July 2008 Posted 29 July 2008 He was 10x better than Dj today, threw his body around and looked good i thought
colbo68 Posted 29 July 2008 Author Posted 29 July 2008 He was 10x better than Dj today, threw his body around and looked good i thought you werent watching the same game as me - and I make my comments based upon seeing him every game last season too - he's a lazy twat and he's gotta go
JoeyB Posted 29 July 2008 Posted 29 July 2008 you werent watching the same game as me - and I make my comments based upon seeing him every game last season too - he's a lazy twat and he's gotta go Leicester V Birmingham, walkers stadium, Leicester, 29th July 745 kick off, was the match i was watching HE brought fryatt into the game more, he came close with an effot or 2, and was holding the ball up well i thought! Thing is people like you saying he is shite, but i think this season he will proove you wrong, now we have some better service, Gradel, Porter, adams, Dyer (if he ever crosses it) i think he will start to score more goals. where as Dj just runs with the ball untill he looes it or gets tried, cant stay onside, and dosent concentrate, but im willing to give him a clean slate for this season
Houdini Logic Posted 29 July 2008 Posted 29 July 2008 Today he was average compared to his usual poor self. That said, he still didn't go for half the balls he should have - he seems defeated before he even jumps. In answer to your original question - because Pearson seems to be giving everyone a fair shot
Thracian Posted 29 July 2008 Posted 29 July 2008 We all know that Howard is no racehorse but he made his contribution tonight. He and Fryatt teamed up for an excellent goal and generally worked well together. I just thought they were left isolated. The point was typified when Fryatt had a run to the left corner post, turned back upfield and would have needed a telescope to spot the support. Eventually Dyer arrived, courtesy of DB's Optimistic Bus I think, but sadly they failed to pick up anyone else and the penalty area remained deserted. Like the defence it is something Pearson needs to address because it's been a problem of ours for far too long though we did improve second half.
J.Lisemore Posted 29 July 2008 Posted 29 July 2008 To be honest i actually didnt think he was that bad today.
teblin Posted 30 July 2008 Posted 30 July 2008 He did alright last night, people just want to complain i reckon.
Asha Posted 30 July 2008 Posted 30 July 2008 can anyone tell me why pearson is sticking with the donkey up front? I cant forgive him for his lack of effort last season but he seems to be the same this season too - if the ball is played a yard in front or to the side of him he JUST DOES NOT chase it. His aerial ability is suspect (he dont jump) - Martin Taylor won everything in the air this eve. I just do not understand the persistence with Howard and do not want to see him as first choice striker this year That just isn't true.
Ajax Treesdown Posted 30 July 2008 Posted 30 July 2008 Howard played alright. Give him a little credit for once!! Its the usual LCFC moaners who find it hard in life to praise anyone who has been poor recently. At the end of the day he will score 12+ in League One.
bigneville Posted 30 July 2008 Posted 30 July 2008 Howard played alright. Give him a little credit for once!!Its the usual LCFC moaners who find it hard in life to praise anyone who has been poor recently. At the end of the day he will score 12+ in League One. But is 12+ goals enough from a guy who's looking like he's going to lead our line forward. To achieve promotion, we're going to need a striker to hit 20 goals. And then contributions of 10+ from others. If we just a squad player, then 12+ might be ok, but for a leading line striker, he won't score enough goals.
Ajax Treesdown Posted 30 July 2008 Posted 30 July 2008 But is 12+ goals enough from a guy who's looking like he's going to lead our line forward.To achieve promotion, we're going to need a striker to hit 20 goals. And then contributions of 10+ from others. If we just a squad player, then 12+ might be ok, but for a leading line striker, he won't score enough goals. Well I wouldn't have him as a first choice player, thats why. We need another striker to lead the line.
teblin Posted 30 July 2008 Posted 30 July 2008 But is 12+ goals enough from a guy who's looking like he's going to lead our line forward.To achieve promotion, we're going to need a striker to hit 20 goals. And then contributions of 10+ from others. If we just a squad player, then 12+ might be ok, but for a leading line striker, he won't score enough goals. Brian deane scored about 13 the year we went up with this partner scoring 19 or 20. Howard can hopefully play a silular role to that.
Asha Posted 30 July 2008 Posted 30 July 2008 Brian deane scored about 13 the year we went up with this partner scoring 19 or 20.Howard can hopefully play a silular role to that. Exactly, but then is Fryatt or DJ going to be the 19 or 20 goalscorer this season? Fryatt's been in the goals recently but it's pre-season, will reserve judgement for the start of the season. As for DJ? Can't see him scoring anywhere near that amount.
bigneville Posted 30 July 2008 Posted 30 July 2008 Well I wouldn't have him as a first choice player, thats why.We need another striker to lead the line. I agree with this, although I haven't seen Howard play this pre-season. If we need to bring another striker in to lead the line though, one of the current set must go, as we seem to have a lot of depth in the front line department. With Howard being on such a high wage, I can't see him being happy here not starting most games when he's fit. So there may be an issue there if he doesnt automatically become a first choice player. Now whether or not Howard has adopted a different attitude this season and will be a success i'm not sure. From what i've seen from Howard last season, he may have some limited success in League One, but won't be 20 goal a season striker for us. And to achieve our goal of getting out of this league at first attempt, we need a successful goal-scoring partnership up front. Whether Howard is fit for that role, i'm not convinced yet. I'm actually hopeful that he proves me wrong in the opening league games. But i'm not expecting it.
Ric Flair Posted 30 July 2008 Posted 30 July 2008 Get used to it, the man is cumbersome. In a poor team that struggled for goals last season, he still averaged a goal every 3 games, which isn't great, but it isn't bad either. In a team that should be one of, if not the strongest team in the league, he should score 15-20 goals. If he does that, there will still be plenty of moaners though as his all round game is fairly mediocre. He's a one trick pony, a goal scorer. Provide him with crosses and half chances in the box and he'll get them netted. DJ Campbell however, is another matter.
Fox in a Box Posted 30 July 2008 Posted 30 July 2008 Get used to it, the man is cumbersome. In a poor team that struggled for goals last season, he still averaged a goal every 3 games, which isn't great, but it isn't bad either. In a team that should be one of, if not the strongest team in the league, he should score 15-20 goals. If he does that, there will still be plenty of moaners though as his all round game is fairly mediocre. He's a one trick pony, a goal scorer. Provide him with crosses and half chances in the box and he'll get them netted.DJ Campbell however, is another matter. totally agreed, he just like Ian Ormandrrrroid look cumbersome, but howard will score goals if he is giben good service, as will Matty Fryatt if fit.
renards Posted 30 July 2008 Posted 30 July 2008 Thought he had a decent game and he did have a mountain marking him, who could also play a bit of football. He won't come up against Prem defenders in he 3rd teir. Would still of liked to see him with the service the wingers provided in the second half, must of been green with envy
billyfox1 Posted 30 July 2008 Posted 30 July 2008 I am usually near the top of the 'Howard Haters Hierarchy' but in all fairness to the bloke it sounds like he had a fairly decent game last night. If he continues to play well, I have no problem with him staying (which I think he will). Hopefully he will gain in confidence and not be the lazy fat tw*t that we know and hate. Unfortunately I cannot see him keeping it up for 90mins throughout the season.
bigneville Posted 30 July 2008 Posted 30 July 2008 Get used to it, the man is cumbersome. In a poor team that struggled for goals last season, he still averaged a goal every 3 games, which isn't great, but it isn't bad either. In a team that should be one of, if not the strongest team in the league, he should score 15-20 goals. If he does that, there will still be plenty of moaners though as his all round game is fairly mediocre. He's a one trick pony, a goal scorer. Provide him with crosses and half chances in the box and he'll get them netted.DJ Campbell however, is another matter. I do somewhat agree with what you saying. But to me its a big should. Am i correct in thinking he didn't score with his head last season? Although I know he can, I haven't seen it. I will give him a chance of course to prove me wrong and show that he can score goals. But i've just not seen anything to suggest he will do anything different to last season.
Houdini Logic Posted 30 July 2008 Posted 30 July 2008 The role of a striker is to score goals, not to knock on balls or chest them down and lay them off. When have you EVER seen Howard take on players and have a shot at goal? And, that aside, he is the laziest striker i have ever had the misfortune to witness. If he loses the ball, he will not chase it. Last night Fryatt made an excellent run (for his goal) and i turned around to see Howard literally jogging into the box in 'support'. Fryatt had to take it on himself. I'm not jumping on the band wagon because he won a couple of balls in the air.
GianEmmo Zola Posted 30 July 2008 Posted 30 July 2008 Bit Harsh , i thought him and fryatt linked up well together, howard was bringing others into the game, by holding it up, he won a few headers, hed have scored if he was on in the second half, because gradel was whipping balls in, and it was crying out for howard whereas first half dyer struggles to beat his man, and adams likes to cut in more, if your going to play gradel we need a big striker on like howard, who yes may not be the quickest , but hell certainly get his head on crosses , Chambers and Dj are good players in their own rights but with gradels crossing ability we need Howard on, partnered by either Fryatt, DJ, or Chambers and lookng at Pre Season id go for Fryatt. With Gradel Right and Adams or Porter left side.
Ric Flair Posted 30 July 2008 Posted 30 July 2008 I do somewhat agree with what you saying.But to me its a big should. Am i correct in thinking he didn't score with his head last season? Although I know he can, I haven't seen it. I will give him a chance of course to prove me wrong and show that he can score goals. But i've just not seen anything to suggest he will do anything different to last season. How many crosses did we provide him with last season, all of our wingers were fookin garbage and we played route one under Holloway. The role of a striker is to score goals, not to knock on balls or chest them down and lay them off.When have you EVER seen Howard take on players and have a shot at goal? And, that aside, he is the laziest striker i have ever had the misfortune to witness. If he loses the ball, he will not chase it. Last night Fryatt made an excellent run (for his goal) and i turned around to see Howard literally jogging into the box in 'support'. Fryatt had to take it on himself. I'm not jumping on the band wagon because he won a couple of balls in the air. Howard will never take a player on, there's is no point in him trying. However, his finishes against Coventry and Norwich showed that he can run on to a ball and bury it. At Luton and Derby they provided plenty of crosses in to the box and that's where he got his goals.
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