Robbie Savage?

[ronnup]

I'll add on - I don't think there is a chance in hell he'll come here.

crux there mate

[Thracian]

Which was never in question, or arguing against my point.

Which was...I believe that in this league more than the other two we'd hope to play in we need a bit of substance in midfield as they are going to be physically targeted. Those we have that aren't injury prone are slight in stature. We have the creative dynamism, we need a Savage-like player as well. Whether that be Savage or someone else is not of importance to me although I think he can do a job for us for a season.

I'll add on - I don't think there is a chance in hell he'll come here.

Neither do I and I'm not against a hard case either. Strong and mean as you like. So long as he can use the ball when he's got it - and shoot.

An £8,000 a week Frank Lampard anyone?

[FilboFox]

You have never liked MM since he got rid of Donkhead, You really -really loved him didnt you. You want to be thankful that MM is putting his hand in his pocket while we are in this division.As for that last line he does not deserve that.

No, I never "loved" Holloway, I was merely standing up for him whilst people like you bashed him to death... have you and will you bash every manager we have when things aren't going right? It can't all be their fault and you CANNOT say that the players can't take a lot of the blame for their half hearted performances last year... anyway, aside from that, MM is showing once again that he can't keep his big nose out of the managers business and looking at last season, it didn't go too well when he did, did it!?!

I am thankful that he is continuing to fund transfers and is sticking with us to take us back to where we belong but I will NOT support him when he starts meddling with affairs in which he ought not... especially when it undermines the manager and could, potentially, screw up the team system once again... and we'll have another season of a disjointed and half hearted team playing for us.

YOU need to wake up... clearly you are still over the moon with all of MM's money and think he's a God send to us as he flashes his money in our faces... others, like me, can see that although it is all well and good that he is helping us out, he is also causing a lot of problems when interfering like he does. So in response to your last comment, no, I don't think it was undeserved... when he can learn to keep out of team affairs, THEN, he will get my full support... at the moment, he is worrying me with all these old players he's looking to bring in and is clearly not understanding that the MANAGER needs to build a team with team spirit to create a good team that will work on and off the pitch week in, week out.

[teblin]

Savage was offered to us, rather than us asking them

Good source told me that.

[Father Ted]

Forgive me for asking but where did you obtain these nuggets of information?

I've heard rumours from various people that he is on around £35k a week!

And the training thing was off Teletext.

[Sniffer-Clarke]

No, I never "loved" Holloway, I was merely standing up for him whilst people like you bashed him to death... have you and will you bash every manager we have when things aren't going right? It can't all be their fault and you CANNOT say that the players can't take a lot of the blame for their half hearted performances last year... anyway, aside from that, MM is showing once again that he can't keep his big nose out of the managers business and looking at last season, it didn't go too well when he did, did it!?!

I am thankful that he is continuing to fund transfers and is sticking with us to take us back to where we belong but I will NOT support him when he starts meddling with affairs in which he ought not... especially when it undermines the manager and could, potentially, screw up the team system once again... and we'll have another season of a disjointed and half hearted team playing for us.

YOU need to wake up... clearly you are still over the moon with all of MM's money and think he's a God send to us as he flashes his money in our faces... others, like me, can see that although it is all well and good that he is helping us out, he is also causing a lot of problems when interfering like he does. So in response to your last comment, no, I don't think it was undeserved... when he can learn to keep out of team affairs, THEN, he will get my full support... at the moment, he is worrying me with all these old players he's looking to bring in and is clearly not understanding that the MANAGER needs to build a team with team spirit to create a good team that will work on and off the pitch week in, week out.

Just get this straight sunshine i am a realist and i know MM has made one or two F-ck Ups and i know he can be a bit overpowering. But dont lose track of what this man has done for city love or hate him [ which i think you do ] we could still have been in a mighty big financial mess or even administration if it hadnt been for his Dollars.

Also you you seem to saying that NP does not have any input of what players the club signes i find that a load bull shit and how do you know MM hes undermining the manager.But you want to wake upto the fact of what he done, to a run down club in pompey [Everybody shout it was HR] with a shit ground and a bucket load of crap players.I suppose you will want to kiss his arse if NP and his staff were to get city into the premiership in a couple of years

You say what you like about him be he may well come back to haunt you,But that last line you wrote about him was not justified i doubt very much he would have said that about YOU because he would have more respect for you what do for him.

[FilboFox]

Just get this straight sunshine i am a realist and i know MM has made one or two F-ck Ups and i know he can be a bit overpowering. But dont lose track of what this man has done for city love or hate him [ which i think you do ] we could still have been in a mighty big financial mess or even administration if it hadnt been for his Dollars.

Also you you seem to saying that NP does not have any input of what players the club signes i find that a load bull shit and how do you know MM hes undermining the manager.But you want to wake upto the fact of what he done, to a run down club in pompey [Everybody shout it was HR] with a shit ground and a bucket load of crap players.I suppose you will want to kiss his arse if NP and his staff were to get city into the premiership in a couple of years

You say what you like about him be he may well come back to haunt you,But that last line you wrote about him was not justified i doubt very much he would have said that about YOU because he would have more respect for you what do for him.

You do talk a load of bull sometimes you really do.

I have readily admitted that I am grateful for the millions he has put into this club, never argued against it. Fact. HOWEVER, the fact still remains that despite his millions, he has made some strange choices here and interfered a lot which has led to undermining of the manager... there is no doubt in that. We are now in League One... the lowest this club has EVER been... great stuff he's done here so far. Yes, you can't blame him entirely for the teams performances last year but he HAS to take some of it as he DID stick his nose in... it was blatantly obvious and if you can't see that he is at it again now, you have got a problem... maybe you've got some "lets all love Milan goggles" on or something...

His "achievement" at Pompey was good... but he went through a lot of managers and made lots of BAD mistakes there too which could so easily have cost them dearly... well done to him for making them what they are today but lets face it, without Harry Redknapp, he and Pompey would have been nothing.

As for the last line... again... 1. How the **** do you know what he would have said... and 2. When he starts to act like a decent chairman and not some interfering old fart in charge of a football club, then I'll have respect... at the moment, his millions are doing us no good what-so-ever due to his UNDERMINING the manager and trying to sign old players he's heard of and think might do well without even knowing the squad and how they play... just look at some of the things that happened last year!?!

One final thing... please learn how to write in proper English that is legible... I can't understand what you have written in that last bit of the last sentence at all due to it being written in a gangster-speak style...

[Thracian]

Just get this straight sunshine i am a realist and i know MM has made one or two F-ck Ups and i know he can be a bit overpowering. But dont lose track of what this man has done for city love or hate him [ which i think you do ] we could still have been in a mighty big financial mess or even administration if it hadnt been for his Dollars.

Also you you seem to saying that NP does not have any input of what players the club signes i find that a load bull shit and how do you know MM hes undermining the manager.But you want to wake upto the fact of what he done, to a run down club in pompey [Everybody shout it was HR] with a shit ground and a bucket load of crap players.I suppose you will want to kiss his arse if NP and his staff were to get city into the premiership in a couple of years

You say what you like about him be he may well come back to haunt you,But that last line you wrote about him was not justified i doubt very much he would have said that about YOU because he would have more respect for you what do for him.

We're more likely to hit the financial buffers with some of the things Mandaric's done so far than was ever likely before he took over. It's hard to imagine how we could have wasted more money than last season and at the cost of such dire consequences.

So at this stage Mandaric has achieved nothing on the football field and has simply taken us down a division to the lowest level in our history.

Almost by default we've appointed a manager in Pearson (he wasn't ever Mandaric's first choice) who seems to have revived our spirits by doing what every previous manager should have done, using our most accomplished young players in tandem with some genuinely talented new signings within a balanced framework.

That no-one else managed to do that is hardly a compliment to Mandaric's managerial selection process.

Of course he might come good in the end but that won't change the disastrous happenings of his first 17 months when so many of the signings were an embarrassment and so were our results.

And if Pearson takes us up will it be because of Mandaric or in spite of him? Because Mandaric COULD have kept Gradel last season. He didn't and it was only since Pearson's arrival he's got in the team.

[Sniffer-Clarke]

You do talk a load of bull sometimes you really do.

I have readily admitted that I am grateful for the millions he has put into this club, never argued against it. Fact. HOWEVER, the fact still remains that despite his millions, he has made some strange choices here and interfered a lot which has led to undermining of the manager... there is no doubt in that. We are now in League One... the lowest this club has EVER been... great stuff he's done here so far. Yes, you can't blame him entirely for the teams performances last year but he HAS to take some of it as he DID stick his nose in... it was blatantly obvious and if you can't see that he is at it again now, you have got a problem... maybe you've got some "lets all love Milan goggles" on or something...

His "achievement" at Pompey was good... but he went through a lot of managers and made lots of BAD mistakes there too which could so easily have cost them dearly... well done to him for making them what they are today but lets face it, without Harry Redknapp, he and Pompey would have been nothing.

As for the last line... again... 1. How the **** do you know what he would have said... and 2. When he starts to act like a decent chairman and not some interfering old fart in charge of a football club, then I'll have respect... at the moment, his millions are doing us no good what-so-ever due to his UNDERMINING the manager and trying to sign old players he's heard of and think might do well without even knowing the squad and how they play... just look at some of the things that happened last year!?!

One final thing... please learn how to write in proper English that is legible... I can't understand what you have written in that last bit of the last sentence at all due to it being written in a gangster-speak style...

You should talk about talking a load bull, you were singing Holloways praise towards the latter part of the season now you said in a recent thread he bought a lot of dross, You aint got a clue what your talking about you just go with flow you are probably one of the minority who does not want MM at the club. The last line means you are talking like a prat, tell me this you are so smart how many of the sacked managers are gone to get other decent jobs ones been out of work for 12 months.

[Sniffer-Clarke]

We're more likely to hit the financial buffers with some of the things Mandaric's done so far than was ever likely before he took over. It's hard to imagine how we could have wasted more money than last season and at the cost of such dire consequences.

So at this stage Mandaric has achieved nothing on the football field and has simply taken us down a division to the lowest level in our history.

Almost by default we've appointed a manager in Pearson (he wasn't ever Mandaric's first choice) who seems to have revived our spirits by doing what every previous manager should have done, using our most accomplished young players in tandem with some genuinely talented new signings within a balanced framework.

That no-one else managed to do that is hardly a compliment to Mandaric's managerial selection process.

Of course he might come good in the end but that won't change the disastrous happenings of his first 17 months when so many of the signings were an embarrassment and so were our results.

And if Pearson takes us up will it be because of Mandaric or in spite of him? Because Mandaric COULD have kept Gradel last season. He didn't and it was only since Pearson's arrival he's got in the team.

Yeah that seems to make sense but i find it hard to beleive players going out on loan dont go without the approval of the manager, So let me ask you this where would we be now if MM had not of come in, we could not entice local businness men ie.David Wilson [ leicestershire born & bred ] estimated wealth possibly double what MM worth. Then we had our old friend Martin George he did not want to know so we had to put up with a Serbian Yank to bail us out.

As for his 1st choice of manager according to reports alls not well at Blackburn. I am fully aware he does make alot of mistakes especially with choice of managers but i dont think he deserves the verbal absuse that some throw at him.

[jonw88]

Don't forgot that we had made some tidy profits so far from the sales of Hume, McAuley and Stearman and so if we do get Dick-Age then money probably isnt gonna be a factor, not that it would be anyway with Mandaric but at least he'd have those few million to play around with. Still don't think Savage is worth the punt at this stage of his career, I think Weso-King would do far better at creating opporunities from midfield, they are young and hungry, Savage is old and mentally unstable.

[Rich Fox]

You should talk about talking a load bull, you were singing Holloways praise towards the latter part of the season now you said in a recent thread he bought a lot of dross, You aint got a clue what your talking about you just go with flow you are probably one of the minority who does not want MM at the club. The last line means you are talking like a prat, tell me this you are so smart how many of the sacked managers are gone to get other decent jobs ones been out of work for 12 months.

Your right hes a bullshitting geek like a lot of them on here with there 20000+ posts, cant believe it its even milans fault that gradel is suddenly doing the business, maybe its done him good going to bournemouth if hes come back a better player.

[Thracian]

Yeah that seems to make sense but i find it hard to beleive players going out on loan dont go without the approval of the manager, So let me ask you this where would we be now if MM had not of come in, we could not entice local businness men ie.David Wilson [ leicestershire born & bred ] estimated wealth possibly double what MM worth. Then we had our old friend Martin George he did not want to know so we had to put up with a Serbian Yank to bail us out.

As for his 1st choice of manager according to reports alls not well at Blackburn. I am fully aware he does make alot of mistakes especially with choice of managers but i dont think he deserves the verbal absuse that some throw at him.

I find it hard to believe Newton would have been a Martin Allen-influenced signing.

As for Ince, as Daggers so wisely warned, don't necessarily believe all you read in the papers. I'm sure the whole truth is considerably different from the snapshot portrayed.

Finally, financially, I don't believe we were quite as badly off at the time of Mandaric's takeover as some would have us believe - and certainly not according to the finance director who resigned - and, anyway, all Mandaric's money over the next 17 months only took us further down and for no logical reason I've ever understood.

Indeed we might even have survived in the Championship under the old board, especially had we played Gradel, and there is no proof or evidence at all there there would have been no alternative offer for the club in due course, whether from Martin George or elsewhere.

The club's player assets were pretty much in place before Mandaric's arrival. Indeed I said at the time that the value of our better youth players would make the purchase price for Leicester a snip and nothing has changed my mind on that.

And that being the case we were never likely to go broke under the old administration. We just wouldn't have had much of a fighting fund and our assets would gradually have been depleted unless we ourselves had gone for someone like Nigel Pearson and co who seem to have a habit of finding half-decent players at ASDA prices.

[Daggers]

Finally, financially, I don't believe we were quite as badly off at the time of Mandaric's takeover as some would have us believe

I hope someone reminds me to repluy to this when I am sobor.

[Milky]

hehehehehe lets al pst wen we drunk hehehehhehehehhe

lats spel tings wong hehehehehehe

[Thracian]

Your right hes a bullshitting geek like a lot of them on here with there 20000+ posts, cant believe it its even milans fault that gradel is suddenly doing the business, maybe its done him good going to bournemouth if hes come back a better player.

No-one is suggesting he's not improved over the last year. Likelihood is he'd have improved here too. But he was always a better bet than Newton et al even all those months back.

[Daggers]

hehehehehe lets al pst wen we drunk hehehehhehehehhe

lats spel tings wong hehehehehehe

Hey look - I can spell cnut, big twat and fooking willy puller

[Milky]

Hey look - I can spell cnut, big twat and fooking willy puller

hehehehehe

[Daggers]

hehehehehe

Stop looking at your dick.

[Thracian]

I hope someone reminds me to repluy to this when I am sobor.

I can do patience Dags. You enjoy your drink and a few more at the weekend too, both in anticipation and, hopefully, in celebration.

[Finchy]

All Savage ever had was his running, now he hasn't got that he's a very average player, so no thanks.

[Thracian]

All Savage ever had was his running, now he hasn't got that he's a very average player, so no thanks.

Any chance of posting that in bigger letters?

[Suffolk_fox]

I don't know why everyone has got a problem with this, he'd be awesome in league one. He's just the type of nasty player that we're going to come across each week but the difference is he actually has some skill too.

Pearson will be able to handle him, if he doesn't put the effort in Nigel's a big enough boy to tell him off.

Savage is not a skilled player, never was. He was good at annoying other players and getting them sent off and being a battler. If he lost the ball (which was quite often) he would chase it until he won it back, and fair play to him. Also, he had to be sold as we as a club were financially up the junction.

Now, he is tired, knackered and hasn't been really trying in training. I think he should be remembered for what he was at this club, a great servant and sorely missed. If he came back and was a crushing disappointment, it would ruin his legend status, keep out younger players and the confidence of the team would dip.

Please no!

[CKB]

No point in signing Savage simple as!

[Shipman Out]

Give it 2 games and everyone will be saying we have no leader, we have no captain on the field...the constant calling for Graham Kavanagh anyone!?

And how many times from EVERY manager we have had since Levien have we heard how quiet the dressing room is!

Savage solves both problems and for those who said he could only run really does make me think you never seen him play when Lennon left he became our top man in midfield took it on himself. Of course he is no longer this player but R Savage is another level up to KISHICHEV!!! surely!

Savage and Dickov would be SUPERB signings IMO a class addition to our young group, they would compliment the group and spirit not destroy it!

Im shocked at the negative attitude towards this signing im over the moon!

F'kin get in!