SOCCERROO FOX Posted 10 January 2012 Posted 10 January 2012 Alabama won 21-0 They have a great punter
Fox in the North Posted 10 January 2012 Posted 10 January 2012 They have a great punter Indeed they do haha their D was pretty mean too
MC Prussian Posted 10 January 2012 Posted 10 January 2012 Fück you, Denver. Fück ü Tim Tebow - for introducing Tebowing to the world.
Guest MattP Posted 10 January 2012 Posted 10 January 2012 Fück you, Denver. Fück ü Tim Tebow - for introducing Tebowing to the world. Tebowing - love it!!
mancunianfox Posted 10 January 2012 Posted 10 January 2012 My interest got re-ignited this year after being able to watch so much college football on ESPN. Started following my old team the Broncos again when the NFL season started but was dismayed to see how bad they where compared to the glory days of John Elway and Terrel Davis. How things have changed now that Tebow is running wild in the 4th QTR and OT!!! Great win over the heavily favoured Steelers and Rapistberger. The Patriots game will be interesting. Denver got lit up by them earlier in the season but did put points up against the Patriots before they kept giving the Pats the ball back. Bellichick was the first coach to load the box to stifle the run game and this led to Denver’s losing streak however they have found a counter to this against Pittsburgh. If they make the most of their passing plays like at the weekend, can avoid the turnovers and use their running game to keep the ball out of Tom Brady’s hands they have a chance!
syston_fox Posted 10 January 2012 Posted 10 January 2012 My interest got re-ignited this year after being able to watch so much college football on ESPN. Started following my old team the Broncos again when the NFL season started but was dismayed to see how bad they where compared to the glory days of John Elway and Terrel Davis. How things have changed now that Tebow is running wild in the 4th QTR and OT!!! Great win over the heavily favoured Steelers and Rapistberger. The Patriots game will be interesting. Denver got lit up by them earlier in the season but did put points up against the Patriots before they kept giving the Pats the ball back. Bellichick was the first coach to load the box to stifle the run game and this led to Denver’s losing streak however they have found a counter to this against Pittsburgh. If they make the most of their passing plays like at the weekend, can avoid the turnovers and use their running game to keep the ball out of Tom Brady’s hands they have a chance! I say it just depends which Tim Tebow turns up. The guy is either lethal or a clown. No average games for him.
mancunianfox Posted 10 January 2012 Posted 10 January 2012 To be fair to Tebow that applies equally to Decker, Royal, Rosario and Thomas. All of whom blow hot and cold and are constantly drop catchable passes. The only offensive threat who has been consistent is Willis McGahee but he has fumbled quite a few times in the last few games.
James18 Posted 15 January 2012 Posted 15 January 2012 Holy shit!! That's the best game Iv'e ever saw. Anyone catch it? Saints @ 49ers?
mancunianfox Posted 15 January 2012 Posted 15 January 2012 Holy shit!! That's the best game Iv'e ever saw. Anyone catch it? Saints @ 49ers? Yeah, it was sooo good. That 49ers D was good but even so they had the game of their lives against New Orleans. It was also nice to see the redemption of Alex Smith towards the end of the game. Pity the NE/Broncos game ended up being so one sided. Tom Brady had a great game as did Gronkowski who Denver could do nothing about. Can't decide if Brady punting the ball was hilarious or really stupid though.
Mack Posted 16 January 2012 Posted 16 January 2012 The Giants beat the Packers, and this is why I am at odds with American sports quite often. The Packers went through the regular season with a perfect record, and what was their reward? A one off cup tie with a team that scraped through the wild cards. American sports always build up to just one trophy that despite all the hard work during the season is won in a one off cup style game that means no matter what you did all year if you have a bad day at the office that's it, you are done for. Seems unfair.
AmericanScott Posted 16 January 2012 Posted 16 January 2012 The Giants beat the Packers, and this is why I am at odds with American sports quite often. The Packers went through the regular season with a perfect record, and what was their reward? A one off cup tie with a team that scraped through the wild cards. American sports always build up to just one trophy that despite all the hard work during the season is won in a one off cup style game that means no matter what you did all year if you have a bad day at the office that's it, you are done for. Seems unfair. The Packers weren't perfect, they lost once this season. The Packers did get rewarded with homefield advantage however and failed to capitalise on their "advantage". But i do see what you're saying. Play offs add an extra dimension to the season and it is to see who is truly the best. Because both conferences are divided into 4 sub-divisions each, you can't really get a Champion after 16 games. Also not to mention the money the road to the Superbowl and the Bowl itself generates. GOOOOO GIANTS!!!!
Mack Posted 16 January 2012 Posted 16 January 2012 The Packers weren't perfect, they lost once this season. The Packers did get rewarded with homefield advantage however and failed to capitalise on their "advantage". But i do see what you're saying. Play offs add an extra dimension to the season and it is to see who is truly the best. Because both conferences are divided into 4 sub-divisions each, you can't really get a Champion after 16 games. Also not to mention the money the road to the Superbowl and the Bowl itself generates. GOOOOO GIANTS!!!! For me it's like the Foxes winning the league, then having to play someone who finished mid table to achieve anything. Makes no sense to me, you may as well drift into the wild cards having given 75% effort, you've got as much chance as a team who have been outstanding. Surely a pyramid league system with the main prize for winning over the course of the whole season and not just one game is better?
Guest MattP Posted 16 January 2012 Posted 16 January 2012 The Giants beat the Packers, and this is why I am at odds with American sports quite often. The Packers went through the regular season with a perfect record, and what was their reward? A one off cup tie with a team that scraped through the wild cards. American sports always build up to just one trophy that despite all the hard work during the season is won in a one off cup style game that means no matter what you did all year if you have a bad day at the office that's it, you are done for. Seems unfair. Different culture, America believes big players perform best on the big stage. These games are that stage. Give me that sort of system over watching 2 teams with loads of money fighting for a league that no one else has a chance of.
syston_fox Posted 16 January 2012 Posted 16 January 2012 To be honest I think the Packers fantastic record during the regular system has cost them as they spent the last few weeks relaxing rather than grinding out the results like the giants did. They had the momentum going into this game whereas the Packers looked rusty and in the end too many individual errors cost them. As a Packers fan, it was tough viewing last night as for so long everything we've tried has come off and you could see frustration creeping in before half time set in. Aaron Rodgers most have missplaced more passes in that one game than in most of the season combined and you cannot have about 10 dropped catches in crucial games such as this. Also to allow that damn Hail Mary to be converted on the stroke of half time? Heads dropped after that! Fair play to the Giants though. Winning at Lambeau takes some doing and they fully deserved their victory.
Mack Posted 16 January 2012 Posted 16 January 2012 This is another good point, the teams that do well have to stop playing for a period while the mediocre teams carry on playing weekly, another disadvantage.
James18 Posted 16 January 2012 Posted 16 January 2012 I do love the play-off system. I can understand why people aren't keen on it but for me it's way more exciting than a normal league system. For the Giants to do what they did was outstanding and that's what the sport is all about. You have to perform when it matters. Giants replicating what the Packers did last season...
Jordan Posted 16 January 2012 Posted 16 January 2012 The Giants beat the Packers, and this is why I am at odds with American sports quite often. The Packers went through the regular season with a perfect record, and what was their reward? A one off cup tie with a team that scraped through the wild cards. American sports always build up to just one trophy that despite all the hard work during the season is won in a one off cup style game that means no matter what you did all year if you have a bad day at the office that's it, you are done for. Seems unfair. ...The Packers did get rewarded with homefield advantage however and failed to capitalise on their "advantage". But i do see what you're saying.Play offs add an extra dimension to the season and it is to see who is truly the best. Because both conferences are divided into 4 sub-divisions each, you can't really get a Champion after 16 games. Also not to mention the money the road to the Superbowl and the Bowl itself generates. GOOOOO GIANTS!!!! That. Also, the Packers were also rewarded with a bye week, which is a huge advantage if you have any injured or exhausted players that need rest. For me it's like the Foxes winning the league, then having to play someone who finished mid table to achieve anything. Makes no sense to me, you may as well drift into the wild cards having given 75% effort, you've got as much chance as a team who have been outstanding. Surely a pyramid league system with the main prize for winning over the course of the whole season and not just one game is better? If that were to happen, it would be very much unfair, because the Premier/Football League play balanced home-and-away schedules. It's really not necessary to have a playoff system when each team has an equal chance to beat each other. The Packers were clearly the best team in the regular season, but there were still six playoff teams that hadn't played the Packers before the playoffs. A pyramid league system IS a better way to determine a champion of a competition in an expansive league system, like England has with its football. But it would make no sense in a self-contained 32-team league where each team can only play against 13 opponents during the regular season. Different culture, America believes big players perform best on the big stage. These games are that stage. Give me that sort of system over watching 2 teams with loads of money fighting for a league that no one else has a chance of. Not only that, but the NFL also believes in parity (to some extent), which is far easier to achieve in its cartel-style organization with antitrust exemption. The NFL draft order is determined by an inverse relationship to how teams finished in the last season, so the worst teams can get the best picks. The NFL's scheduling formula also accounts for team performance, as each team plays against the teams that finished in the same position as them in the other divisions within their conference and better teams have tougher schedules (so the NFC East-winning Giants will play the Packers and the 49ers in the 2012 regular season, but the Redskins will play the last-place Vikings and Rams instead). The league also operates under a salary cap, and a lot of revenue (e.g. television revenue) is shared amongst the league (although big-market teams do often still have competitive advantages over the smaller-market teams). ...as for the games... That 49ers-Saints game was thrilling--what a game to watch as a neutral fan. Vernon Davis pretty much willed the Niners to victory and the much-maligned Alex Smith silenced a few critics. That last moment of Tebow Time against Pittsburgh was nice for Denver, but I was saying all week that the Patriots were going to blow out the Broncos and torch their defense as they did in Week 15--they did that and then some. Tom Brady shredded the Broncos' secondary, and it seemed like every fault the Broncos had--from Tebow through the WR corps and their secondary--was exposed and exploited. Shock and awe... the Broncos will have to do a lot of thinking in the offseason, but they are committing to Tebow as their starting QB and it will be interesting to see how Tebow fares next season with more coaching and a proper training camp. The Texans stuck around for a long while--Arian Foster is a beast--but in the end they couldn't make up for all of their turnovers. Baltimore's defense is a vicious, hard-hitting bunch but they'll need Ed Reed to be healthy to face the Patriots' passing attack. And finally... Giants... wow. I still can't wrap my mind around the awesomeness of them going to Lambeau Field and winning by 17 despite being hurt by a few terrible calls by the refs. Green Bay will regret all of their miscues--the four turnovers, all those dropped passes, and whatever Charles Woodson was doing on that Hail Mary--this game could have turned out a lot differently. But the Giants were pretty much able to move the ball down the field with ease for most of the game.
Head Honcho Posted 16 January 2012 Posted 16 January 2012 This may be a stupid question but has there ever been talk of having some inter-league games as they do in Baseball.
Jordan Posted 16 January 2012 Posted 16 January 2012 This may be a stupid question but has there ever been talk of having some inter-league games as they do in Baseball. I'm not sure what you mean by interleague play, as there's only one league, and each division plays against a division from the other conference as part of the NFL's scheduling formula. For example, the NFC East teams each played a game against the AFC East teams this season, but they will play the AFC North teams next season. The divisional matchups are on a rotating system, so each team knows who they are going to play before the NFL releases the completed schedule.
Guest MattP Posted 17 January 2012 Posted 17 January 2012 I'm not sure what you mean by interleague play, as there's only one league, and each division plays against a division from the other conference as part of the NFL's scheduling formula. For example, the NFC East teams each played a game against the AFC East teams this season, but they will play the AFC North teams next season. The divisional matchups are on a rotating system, so each team knows who they are going to play before the NFL releases the completed schedule. Interleague play. It's about 2 weeks in the middle of the MLB season where the National league and American league teams play agaisnt east other rather than their own league sides. Only other time that happens is the world series.
Jordan Posted 17 January 2012 Posted 17 January 2012 I know what you mean by MLB interleague play, but I don't know how that relates to the NFl, unless you were talking about the 4 inter-conference games each NFL team already plays.
Head Honcho Posted 17 January 2012 Posted 17 January 2012 I know what you mean by MLB interleague play, but I don't know how that relates to the NFl, unless you were talking about the 4 inter-conference games each NFL team already plays. I think this is what I meant yeh So would a team normally play the four inter-conference games against the same teams every season?
Jordan Posted 17 January 2012 Posted 17 January 2012 I think this is what I meant yeh So would a team normally play the four inter-conference games against the same teams every season? No; based on the current scheduling formula, the inter-conference division match-ups change every season on a four-year rotation. Major League Baseball does something similar, however, it also schedules extra series between geographical rivals every season. So, the Yankees and Mets play two series against each other every season no matter what, but the Giants and Jets only play each other every four seasons (when the NFC East plays the AFC East, which happened this season).
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