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Tommeh

Villa

By Tommeh, in General Football and Sport

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Floating Fox

Floating Fox

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The money would be very nice to Villa for getting into the Champs League but surely getting a good cup run in the F.A Cup and UEFA Cup would also bring alot of money into the club? Just the same as the Champs League qualifiers.

You'd be surprised!

Simi

Simi

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Villa fans view...

I am extremely pissed off with O'Neill for doing this, if we'd lost the first leg 2 or 3 nil then fair enough but it's 1-1 and i think with our strongest side we'd have had a great chance, we'll get beat 4 or 5 now you watch.

What i don't get it is why bother entering the Intertoto in July and starting our season early if once we get to the later stages we're not going to take it seriously? I wonder what Bouma thinks of it all, don't forget he broke his ankle playing in an Intertoto game and has missed all season, and now the Uefa Cup is deemed pointless he must be thinking i ****ed my ankle up playing in that game for nothing then.

Apparantly CSKA sent us 350 tickets which we sold out and the estimates are another 100 or so are travelling over as there are tickets available on the night. Some people have paid nearly a grand with the majority paying around £800, thats a hell of a lot of money to watch our reserves get hammered.

What will be interesting is if we get through, how on earth is the club going to drum up interest in the game? If we play Spurs then it will sell out but if we play Shakhtar they'll have the old 'Another night to remember' headlines on the official site but surely everyone will be thinking whats the point in going? It's obvious MON doesn't want to be in the competition so why should we waste our money going to watch it? I won't be going if we get through, and if we're in the Europa League next season i won't be attending any of the games, if we're not going to try and win it then i'll save my money.

I'd rather win a trophy than finish in 4th, but judging by our message boards i'm in the minority. If we were going for the title then fair enough, but 4th? Yeah thats something to tell the Grandkids about. We'll probably lose the qualifier anyway.

BoneDog

BoneDog

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I can understand why O'Neill sees getting 4th spot as more important than the UEFA Cup this season. The money they will recieve for qualifying for the Champions League could cement Villa (as long as they have a manager of O'Neills quality) at the top end of the Premier League for a long time. They have a chairman who will back his manager with hard cash and O'Neill is a master at strengthening his teams with the right players and one of the best man motivators I've ever seen. I can't see why Villa couldn't do well in the CL next season as they already have a very decent squad and there will be big cash to spend in the summer.

This is a massive opportunity for Villa to become a world name again and I think O'Neill can sense what could be around the corner if they hold on to that 4th spot til the end of the season.

Sods

Sods

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They will be ****ski when the Arse win the champo league. :whistle:

Can see what MON is doing, i would like to see a strong team where ever my team played but its not going to happen.

Feel sorry for those 400 or so fans going to Moscow. Hope they win now would Martin be pleased?

BoneDog

BoneDog

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Chairman has probably told him to focus on the "4th place".

Could be true.

I'm also wondering is it more likely for a player who is not used to playing on it to get injured on a plastic pitch? Not sure.

Ultra

Ultra

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After what we did in the JPT (which offered a far more realistic chance of a trip to Wembley than the League or FA Cups did), we're not in a position to preach to Villa or anyone else.

MON has concluded that the squad isn't strong enough to fight on more than one front. I think he's probably right.

If Villa finish above the gooners most of their fans will be delighted, regardless of how the cup competitions go.

Ultra

Ultra

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MON is showing honesty about his team's priorities.

I wish the current City manager could have done the same. Otherwise 1500 City fans wouldn't have turned up to see us get needlessly turned over by a 4th division side.

Nationwider

Nationwider

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I agree with what MON has done on this particular occasion. Although I sympathise with the fans, this is the fault of UEFA and their bloated competitions.

The UEFA Cup is a horrible, fractured competition that lacks focus or real prestige these days. It starts off mid-summer with a load of pan-European part-timers in pre-qualifying, then shifts to a silly group of five stage after a solitary, random qualifying round, then back to a knockout where a club must face nine games to win the competition - 15 in total assuming they've not had to pre-qualify. The majority of these games are not against prestigious opposition and attendances are generally poor. The hauling in of Champions League lucky losers makes a mockery of an already silly format. It's a shambles.

This competition might have meant something 10+ years ago but in it's current format it's ridiculous. It needs to offer something different to the Champions League to be a viable, exciting product. Strip away all the pre-amble, make it 32 decent teams in a straight knock-out (9 games max), offer €30m and a Champions League proper place for the winning club, a few quid for the runners up and nothing for the rest. Then you've got an easy format that is good for fans and TV, and makes the managers and players get off their arses.

Villa don't have the muscle to fight on all fronts this season. I think MON is right to prioritise the League. Winning the UEFA Cup will not attract better players to Villa, but a top four place and a Champo slot will make people across Europe sit up and take note. And God knows how the Premiership needs another team in the top four.

I like to see teams take the cups seriously, but on this occasion, I've got a lot of sympathy with MON.

Corky

Corky

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I agree with what MON has done on this particular occasion. Although I sympathise with the fans, this is the fault of UEFA and their bloated competitions.

The UEFA Cup is a horrible, fractured competition that lacks focus or real prestige these days. It starts off mid-summer with a load of pan-European part-timers in pre-qualifying, then shifts to a silly group of five stage after a solitary, random qualifying round, then back to a knockout where a club must face nine games to win the competition - 15 in total assuming they've not had to pre-qualify. The majority of these games are not against prestigious opposition and attendances are generally poor. The hauling in of Champions League lucky losers makes a mockery of an already silly format. It's a shambles.

This competition might have meant something 10+ years ago but in it's current format it's ridiculous. It needs to offer something different to the Champions League to be a viable, exciting product. Strip away all the pre-amble, make it 32 decent teams in a straight knock-out (9 games max), offer €30m and a Champions League proper place for the winning club, a few quid for the runners up and nothing for the rest. Then you've got an easy format that is good for fans and TV, and makes the managers and players get off their arses.

Villa don't have the muscle to fight on all fronts this season. I think MON is right to prioritise the League. Winning the UEFA Cup will not attract better players to Villa, but a top four place and a Champo slot will make people across Europe sit up and take note. And God knows how the Premiership needs another team in the top four.

I like to see teams take the cups seriously, but on this occasion, I've got a lot of sympathy with MON.

I do agree that the Uefa Cup has too many matches.

Fosse Boy

Fosse Boy

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I think that all European competitions have far too many matches. If it were up to me I'd eliminate group stages altogether.

Oh, and bring back the Cup Winners' Cup. :cool:

Corky

Corky

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I think that all European competitions have far too many matches. If it were up to me I'd eliminate group stages altogether.

Oh, and bring back the Cup Winners' Cup. :cool:

Only clubs that have won the Charity Shield should be allowed into European competitions from England :cool:

CosbehFox

CosbehFox

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You'd be surprised!

Everton apparently made a loss on their run last season. Mainly because there is no central TV contract which will be in place next season.

The UEFA Cup is a horrible, fractured competition that lacks focus or real prestige these days. .

I think it's had a bit of a renaissance on this year. A lot of big sides in it, old skool style games and more competitive than CL.

As the Villa fan indicated, why enter Intertoto and extend their season which is now beginning to have an effect on their league campaign.

James.

James.

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I agree with what MON has done on this particular occasion. Although I sympathise with the fans, this is the fault of UEFA and their bloated competitions.

The UEFA Cup is a horrible, fractured competition that lacks focus or real prestige these days. It starts off mid-summer with a load of pan-European part-timers in pre-qualifying, then shifts to a silly group of five stage after a solitary, random qualifying round, then back to a knockout where a club must face nine games to win the competition - 15 in total assuming they've not had to pre-qualify. The majority of these games are not against prestigious opposition and attendances are generally poor. The hauling in of Champions League lucky losers makes a mockery of an already silly format. It's a shambles.

This competition might have meant something 10+ years ago but in it's current format it's ridiculous. It needs to offer something different to the Champions League to be a viable, exciting product. Strip away all the pre-amble, make it 32 decent teams in a straight knock-out (9 games max), offer €30m and a Champions League proper place for the winning club, a few quid for the runners up and nothing for the rest. Then you've got an easy format that is good for fans and TV, and makes the managers and players get off their arses.

Villa don't have the muscle to fight on all fronts this season. I think MON is right to prioritise the League. Winning the UEFA Cup will not attract better players to Villa, but a top four place and a Champo slot will make people across Europe sit up and take note. And God knows how the Premiership needs another team in the top four.

I like to see teams take the cups seriously, but on this occasion, I've got a lot of sympathy with MON.

That is one tasty post. Mmm.

Finnegan

Finnegan

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Villa wont play in the Champions League next year.

And dying in your bed many years from now, would you be willing to trade all the days from this day to that for one chance, just one cahnce, to come back here and... erm... well, qualify for the Champions League?

Also, I like 'Wider's post. Mostly because he's agreeing with me. :whistle:

Nationwider

Nationwider

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Everton apparently made a loss on their run last season. Mainly because there is no central TV contract which will be in place next season.

I think it's had a bit of a renaissance on this year. A lot of big sides in it, old skool style games and more competitive than CL.

As the Villa fan indicated, why enter Intertoto and extend their season which is now beginning to have an effect on their league campaign.

I'll grant you there's been some good games - the format is ridiculous though. I think there should be the carrot of a Champo place for the winners to really give the Cup some focus.

My guess this that Villa have just far exceeded their own expectations and that challenging for a CL spot was never on the blueprint for this season. With Spurs and Man City spending big and Everton always up there, I reckon they hoped to just be in the mix for a UEFA place and maybe nick a cup competition. The league is a mad bonus for them this season. I think MON struggles to hide his own surprise in interviews at times.

Nationwider

Nationwider

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Also, I like 'Wider's post. Mostly because he's agreeing with me. :whistle:

'Nationwider is proud to endorse Finners' posts in 2009'

Anyway, talent imitates, genius steals. :giggle:

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