BlabyFox Posted 2 April 2009 Posted 2 April 2009 linkage Now everyone has their own opinion but I personally think this is stupid. I'm all for giving aid to countries in poverty but surely the struggling newly unemployed British should come first in the chaos of the recession. At least the positive is that Gordon Brown will now be hated ever more than he was before. Your views?
Edmund Posted 2 April 2009 Posted 2 April 2009 Im sure parts of Nepal were under British control in the past and there soldiers (gurkhas) have helped us over the years. I don't know the history or facts and figures but im sure Nepal has suffered from civil wars which were caused from Britains bad past and segregating the country. I may be completely wrong by the way.
Matt Posted 2 April 2009 Posted 2 April 2009 Now don't be so racist! English people made redundant or unemployed can live in poverty whilst we help get other countries out of poverty! I was thinking the other day, England and Englands economy as a whole is dying, people are being made redundant day by day, number of people signing on are going to rise at a big rate surely they can't just keep affording to hand money out to people - Even though it is a shit pay out (Better than nothing though) it all accumulates and will be a horrendous amount
Finnegan Posted 2 April 2009 Posted 2 April 2009 What does Yahoo News have to say about this? I presume it's all the fault of the communist Marxists.
Hullfox Posted 2 April 2009 Posted 2 April 2009 Assuming that unemployment reaches 3 million by April 2010 when this aid begins, the monies paid each year will be the equivalent of under £30 for each of those unemployed. It's hardly a massive sum.
lavrentis Posted 2 April 2009 Posted 2 April 2009 Assuming that unemployment reaches 3 million by April 2010 when this aid begins, the monies paid each year will be the equivalent of under £30 for each of those unemployed.It's hardly a massive sum. Thats half of what unemployed people get already.
Alexikokopops Posted 2 April 2009 Posted 2 April 2009 Thats half of what unemployed people get already. I'm pretty sure unemployed people get more than £60 a year benefits.
lavrentis Posted 2 April 2009 Posted 2 April 2009 I'm pretty sure unemployed people get more than £60 a year benefits. Misread it I meant a week anyway
Head Honcho Posted 2 April 2009 Posted 2 April 2009 linkageNow everyone has their own opinion but I personally think this is stupid. I'm all for giving aid to countries in poverty but surely the struggling newly unemployed British should come first in the chaos of the recession. At least the positive is that Gordon Brown will now be hated ever more than he was before. Your views? As the article said. It's more of a compensation then aid. Nepalese workers have been made unemployed by british firms around the world because of the economic downturn and we'll need them again when the economy picks up. Britain can only compete for contracts abroad by using these workers so we don't want to start alienating them for what amounts to around £1.5 million a week do we? We waste more then that an hour by giving smackheads their daily dose of Methadone. ............and who do you think will win the contracts to build the schools and hospitals?
Alexikokopops Posted 2 April 2009 Posted 2 April 2009 They'll get you if you don't pipe down BlabyFox
Flynny Posted 2 April 2009 Posted 2 April 2009 1. We're not doing this 'instead' of giving money to our redundant - for a start, that's not how budgets work, and secondly redundancy pay and JSA isn't going to go up because governments like it nice and low to incentivize people. 2. Looks like this is a tactical move as regards our sphere of influence and peacekeeping. 3. If you actually look at our budget we're spending money on far stupider things. Again - this is the nature of government budgets. I wonder how much the stupid scaremongering terrorism and smoking billboards are costing, for one thing? All in all - I can understand where people are coming from, especially you Matt (sorry to hear about your job by the way, I don't think I posted in the thread you made about it) but this money isn't being spent 'instead' of giving it to the redundant and struggling. We're probably just taking on debt for them or something anyway.
Guest Posted 2 April 2009 Posted 2 April 2009 linkageNow everyone has their own opinion but I personally think this is stupid. I'm all for giving aid to countries in poverty but surely the struggling newly unemployed British should come first in the chaos of the recession. At least the positive is that Gordon Brown will now be hated ever more than he was before. Your views? We could always open up the borders and let these people take the few jobs that are left in this country instead......
Thracian Posted 2 April 2009 Posted 2 April 2009 linkageNow everyone has their own opinion but I personally think this is stupid. I'm all for giving aid to countries in poverty but surely the struggling newly unemployed British should come first in the chaos of the recession. At least the positive is that Gordon Brown will now be hated ever more than he was before. Your views? I'm all for it. Gurkas aside (and we do owe them a debt), training people to help themselves makes far more sense than allowing them to come here and make our jobs situation worse and our welfare system creak even louder. We could (but could is figurative when we actually probably can't) start saving some of the contribution by getting rid of Somali Cabdullah Cisse, the latest newsworthy asylum seeker who's cost us £20,000 since last November having been sentenced to six years jail in Italy in 2006 for "criminal association with the aim of international terrorism". He was released in November last year, immediately flown here (no idea why) and promptly claimed asylum. Lise says we deport criminal asylum seekers but didn't mention anything about criminals imported from elsewhere. A spokeswoman for the UK Border agency refused to discuss Cisse's case but said something about being "absolutely clear". Thank God someone is. Oh yes, the spokeswoman was "Absolutely clear than anyone who poses a threat to public safety should leave or we will remove em". Governmentspeak and we're having a laugh, governmentspeak and we're having a laugh..... I could easily think of other ways of saving the rest and would far, far sooner the money did some good in Nepal than be wasted on misguided idealism and satisfying even more misguided laws here. Just cos we're skint doesn't mean we won't have a foreign policy budget!
Flynny Posted 2 April 2009 Posted 2 April 2009 Surely it's naive to be shocked to discover that people can manipulate the legal system? Or am I being naive?
Guest Posted 3 April 2009 Posted 3 April 2009 Lise says we deport criminal asylum seekers but didn't mention anything about criminals imported from elsewhere. What the hell this has to do with aid given to Nepal, I don't know...... But, you can choose to travel to any country that you want within the EU once you are in. It doesn't mean that country will let you in though. So yet again, only half a story gets reported, and a load more people get their knickers in a twist.
Dr The Singh Posted 3 April 2009 Posted 3 April 2009 You give alittle, you get alittle. No such thing as a free lunch, the rest you can figure out for yourselves!!!
Zingari Posted 3 April 2009 Posted 3 April 2009 they ought to start charging people to trample all over their mountains
ozleicester Posted 3 April 2009 Posted 3 April 2009 The sooner we all realise we are all earthlings, the sooner the world will be a better place. A human life in, Nepal, London, Sydney, Iceland, etc, etc....all are each a human life and should be equally valued.
Hullfox Posted 3 April 2009 Posted 3 April 2009 The sooner we all realise we are all earthlings, the sooner the world will be a better place.A human life in, Nepal, London, Sydney, Iceland, etc, etc....all are each a human life and should be equally valued. That sir is absolutely brilliant. I wish that I could put things so succinctly.
Zingari Posted 3 April 2009 Posted 3 April 2009 The sooner we all realise we are all earthlings, the sooner the world will be a better place.A human life in, Nepal, London, Sydney, Iceland, etc, etc....all are each a human life and should be equally valued. true and desirable maybe ; but that is not how the human mind works , and probably never will , children > close family > extended family>friends>neighbours etc etc will do doubt remain the order of importance to us i know this sounds a bit simplistic
Guest Posted 3 April 2009 Posted 3 April 2009 true and desirable maybe ; but that is not how the human mind works , and probably never will , children > close family > extended family>friends>neighbours etc etc will do doubt remain the order of importance to us i know this sounds a bit simplistic Neighbours? I don't give a flying fook about most of my neighbours, bunch of ignorant, numbskulls that they are.
Thracian Posted 3 April 2009 Posted 3 April 2009 What the hell this has to do with aid given to Nepal, I don't know...... It doesn't have to have anything to do with Nepal. But if this debt-ridden country of ours is going to spend $250m on something worthwhile I'd like it to recover that money from things that aren't.
Guest Posted 3 April 2009 Posted 3 April 2009 It doesn't have to have anything to do with Nepal. But if this debt-ridden country of ours is going to spend $250m on something worthwhile I'd like it to recover that money from things that aren't. Well let's start on the indigenous population claiming benefits falsely. There are enough wastes of resources already here that need sorting out that could mean we could help those who really do need it, whether it's here or abroad.
davieG Posted 3 April 2009 Posted 3 April 2009 Well let's start on the indigenous population claiming benefits falsely. There are enough wastes of resources already here that need sorting out that could mean we could help those who really do need it, whether it's here or abroad. No let's start with them at the top of the ladder who are ripping off take payers etc. by sums of money that make benefit cheats seem like kids stealing lollipops.
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