James. Posted 15 April 2009 Author Posted 15 April 2009 If its still working out cheaper overall than a non budget airline then how is it a rip off??!! If its not, then whey are you flying with them??! Like I said they are the only airline that I've found offering direct flights to Brindisi. Alitalia are cheaper but it's not direct. £20 for using a non-Visa Electron IS a rip off, whatever way you look at it. They are arseholes and I wouldn't be surprised if they go out of business/struggle in the not so distant future because of issues like what I and others have pointed out elsewhere in the thread.
Monk Posted 15 April 2009 Posted 15 April 2009 Shit they really have put the CC fees up! Pretty poor showing really - I tend only to buy off them in their crazy sales which makes the flights very cheap.
Stevosevic Posted 15 April 2009 Posted 15 April 2009 Went to Dublin with RyanAir, £8 each way in total. No need to pay for a bag, the hand luggage allowance is big.
lookwhaticando Posted 15 April 2009 Posted 15 April 2009 I remember when the Pilots of Ryan Air landed at the wrong airport, they landed in a Military base Only a day or two ago they managed to land on a taxiway rather than the runway, somewhere in France I think. It should come as no surprise to anyone that Ryanair are the way they are, after all, their boss is one Michael O'Leary. Michael O'Leary is well known in the aviation industry for having a business motto something along the lines of "If you don't like what we're offering, fuck off somewhere else". He's brutal when it comes to keeping costs down. The second any particular airport or handling company attempts to increase their fees, he'll just jump ship. One example being an airport that tried to introduce an airport improvement fee, collected by the airline on behalf of the airport, which would be used to improve the facilities at the airport - it's a very common practice in the US and Canada. The second O'Leary got wind of this, he threatened to withdraw the fleet they had based their. They'll do whatever they can to offer 5p flights, and then they whack everything else on as a fee. The right kind of traveller can fly Ryanair reasonably comfortably, and very cheaply. But it's not for everyone, that's for sure. There was a suggestion a couple of years ago that Ryanair might stop accepting hold luggage altogether (so you'd have to carry everything on board). The reason being it'd be quicker to turn the plane around, and potentially cheaper to as it'd require less manpower on the ground, and hence they could shave a few more pennies off the price of a seat. They're incredible, they make you pay for absolutely every aspect of flying, they treat you like shit and yet somehow people keep flying with them and making them one of the most profitable in the European market. You've got to admire them for that.
davieG Posted 15 April 2009 Posted 15 April 2009 I've got a flight booked to Dinard at £59 for 2 of us all in. I've used them before and found them quite acceptable, they are what they are. The charges are not hidden they're clearly stated as you go through the booking procedure. I don't see the problem. Re CC and charges I used my normal credit card, no problems and the price above includes the charge for that I used BMI Baby and they promised me a free flight which never materialised and there's no way to get through to anyone who is prepared to acknowledge this. All these companies have their own little quirks (and I'm not talking managers here ). You look at the options they offer and makes your choice.
MC Prussian Posted 15 April 2009 Posted 15 April 2009 Ryanair are the worst of the budget airlines, I expect them to start charging for air soon. Absolute scum! The other 'budget airlines' are pretty useless and the prices are often as high or higher than the main airlines (if you can find flights that are acceptable).I am going to Geneva tomorrow on easyjet from luton for £150 but could have gone using air france from London city for £110 plus getting into a lounge and having food and drink provided. Oi! I guess you either don't have enough time at your hands to visit the Zurich area or you're going straight to France from Geneva, right? Otherwise, we could've met up over here. I'm not that much of a frequent flyer, and whenever I choose to visit Leics, I usually go with Easyjet. It's a longer ride all in all, as I have to take the train to Geneva, but price-wise, it's worth it. The only other decent option would be Brum Airport directly from Zurich, but it's more costly. Hardly ever fly with Ryanair and yes, their pricing system is weird, but when I flew to Dublin from EMA, it was the cheapest offer on that day. Booked relatively early for about 30-40£ for a one-way flight.
Guest Posted 15 April 2009 Posted 15 April 2009 Oi! I guess you either don't have enough time at your hands to visit the Zurich area or you're going straight to France from Geneva, right? Otherwise, we could've met up over here. He's going to Grenoble for the day, so doesn't have time, otherwise he could have arranged something. He used to take the flight from Brum to Lyon but that no longer operates so has to fly to Geneva instead.
James. Posted 15 April 2009 Author Posted 15 April 2009 I've got a flight booked to Dinard at £59 for 2 of us all in. I've used them before and found them quite acceptable, they are what they are. The charges are not hidden they're clearly stated as you go through the booking procedure. I don't see the problem.Re CC and charges I used my normal credit card, no problems and the price above includes the charge for that I used BMI Baby and they promised me a free flight which never materialised and there's no way to get through to anyone who is prepared to acknowledge this. All these companies have their own little quirks (and I'm not talking managers here ). You look at the options they offer and makes your choice. Jeez, can I not have a bit of a rant without someone getting all sensible and balanced. Everything you say is fair enough. My main issue is that I don't really have a choice which has only served to emphasise the ridiculous charges (which haven't always been there) and poor service that I will no doubt get. If another airline flew direct then I'd not have anything to moan about. And anyway as LWICD said, the company is run by an arsehole so I shouldn't really be that surprised. They're still wankers though and it will be painful to give them my money.
davieG Posted 15 April 2009 Posted 15 April 2009 Jeez, can I not have a bit of a rant without someone getting all sensible and balanced.Everything you say is fair enough. My main issue is that I don't really have a choice which has only served to emphasise the ridiculous charges (which haven't always been there) and poor service that I will no doubt get. If another airline flew direct then I'd not have anything to moan about. And anyway as LWICD said, the company is run by an arsehole so I shouldn't really be that surprised. They're still wankers though and it will be painful to give them my money. Of course you can have a rant and there's many I'd join you on. As for the charges they're not ridiculous if you don't need them, I could have a rant re another airline on why I should pay such high prices when all I want is a simpler turn flight. As you say you're problem is that you have no choice, on the other hand perhaps you should be grateful to Mr O'Leary for providing this facility that no one else is prepared to offer
Alexikokopops Posted 15 April 2009 Posted 15 April 2009 Of course you can have a rant and there's many I'd join you on. As for the charges they're not ridiculous if you don't need them, I could have a rant re another airline on why I should pay such high prices when all I want is a simpler turn flight. As you say you're problem is that you have no choice, on the other hand perhaps you should be grateful to Mr O'Leary for providing this facility that no one else is prepared to offer The £20 for using any card other than a Visa Electron is pretty ridiculous. Who has a Visa Electron?!
Anish Posted 15 April 2009 Posted 15 April 2009 The £20 for using any card other than a Visa Electron is pretty ridiculous. Who has a Visa Electron?! Those of us wise enough to take a Visa Electron card out specifically for the purpose of booking Ryanair tickets
DB11 Posted 15 April 2009 Posted 15 April 2009 The £20 for using any card other than a Visa Electron is pretty ridiculous. Who has a Visa Electron?! Me!
Vardinhio Posted 15 April 2009 Posted 15 April 2009 Paid £20 for return flights to Marsielle last year, awesome place. Took small suitcase in hand luggage. No problems. I think the fact they are "budget" airlines illustrates the fact their service wont be as good. Still, much cheaper than the big ones.
davieG Posted 16 April 2009 Posted 16 April 2009 The £20 for using any card other than a Visa Electron is pretty ridiculous. Who has a Visa Electron?! As I said I booked a couple of weeks ago with a standard Visa card and was charged £9 for an over all handling fee. I'm assuming the Electron thing is a very recent introduction
JoeyB Posted 16 April 2009 Posted 16 April 2009 4 people from my family got to Dublin and back for 8p! Yes 8p! With Ryanair! All because i had an Abbey National Visa Electron card! The only bad thing about Ryanair is the 1 piece of hand luggage rule and from EMA they are strict about it! But other than that i have no complaints! apart from the stewardess who reads the saftey instructions out and can hardly speak English, but she was dam fine to look at!
James. Posted 16 April 2009 Author Posted 16 April 2009 Turns out my girlfriend has a Visa Electron. Bingo!
JoeyB Posted 16 April 2009 Posted 16 April 2009 Turns out my girlfriend has a Visa Electron. Bingo! All that ranting, just to get attention
Ultra Posted 16 April 2009 Posted 16 April 2009 It should come as no surprise to anyone that Ryanair are the way they are, after all, their boss is one Michael O'Leary. Michael O'Leary is well known in the aviation industry for having a business motto something along the lines of "If you don't like what we're offering, fuck off somewhere else". He's brutal when it comes to keeping costs down. The second any particular airport or handling company attempts to increase their fees, he'll just jump ship. One example being an airport that tried to introduce an airport improvement fee, collected by the airline on behalf of the airport, which would be used to improve the facilities at the airport - it's a very common practice in the US and Canada. The second O'Leary got wind of this, he threatened to withdraw the fleet they had based there. But he's quite happy to use Irish airports which operate in exactly the same way. When I flew with Ryanair to Knock three years ago, I was surprised to learn that a "development tax" of 10 euros would apply for the return flight. Needless to say, Ryanair had omitted to mention this previously.
maddog Posted 16 April 2009 Posted 16 April 2009 If Ryanair didn't have those extra charges they would go bust. Remember a few months ago when petrol was mega expensive (its relatively cheap now compared to then) the bloke who owns Ryanair was saying they were struggling to break-even and stay afloat due to petrol prices, and had spent some ridiculous figure on petrol, hundreds of millions of pounds i think.
Sir Fynwy Posted 16 April 2009 Posted 16 April 2009 I never made it to Geneva on Easyjet today, some idiot drove a forklift into the plane last night which meant they needed a certificate to arrive from Zurich this morning saying the repair was OK, this arrived at 11am (flight was scheduled for 9am) and we got on the planre at 11.20, the plane then wouldn't start and had a total power failure on the 3rd attempt to start it, this was 12.30 and I decided to get off at this point as I couldn't make my meeting anyway and any plane that suffers total power failure on the ground isn't likely to be safe in my opinion. They will let me rebook for next week
MC Prussian Posted 16 April 2009 Posted 16 April 2009 I never made it to Geneva on Easyjet today, some idiot drove a forklift into the plane last night which meant they needed a certificate to arrive from Zurich this morning saying the repair was OK, this arrived at 11am (flight was scheduled for 9am) and we got on the planre at 11.20, the plane then wouldn't start and had a total power failure on the 3rd attempt to start it, this was 12.30 and I decided to get off at this point as I couldn't make my meeting anyway and any plane that suffers total power failure on the ground isn't likely to be safe in my opinion.They will let me rebook for next week Via Zurich? (I know it's not gonna happen, but I'll do it anyway) Hehe, fork that lift!
Part Of The Crowd Posted 16 April 2009 Posted 16 April 2009 I had to catch a domestic flight through Ryanair recently (Newquay to Stansted, had to do it fast) There was no option to do an online check in at any point on my booking experience, it was not made clear that if you checked in at the airport you would have to queue about 3 more times to eventually check in and would be charged £20 for the pleasure. Other people I know tried the online check in option and it refused to process their details. It is completely unnacceptable
DB11 Posted 16 April 2009 Posted 16 April 2009 I bet it's still cheaper with all these "add ons" than most other air lines
lookwhaticando Posted 16 April 2009 Posted 16 April 2009 But he's quite happy to use Irish airports which operate in exactly the same way.When I flew with Ryanair to Knock three years ago, I was surprised to learn that a "development tax" of 10 euros would apply for the return flight. Needless to say, Ryanair had omitted to mention this previously. He doesn't have an issue with the fee per se, but the airport in question was trying to introduce it after he'd based some planes there. He objects to everything, except his revenue/profits, increasing. If the airport has a fee already, fair enough, but as soon as a current airport tries to impose one, he throws his toys out of the pram. He's a bit of a bully, really. I think part of it is a convenient smokescreen, to be honest. Some of the routes that they end up cutting can't be making all that much money, so they could use the fee as an excuse to cut services that don't generate much cash. After all, they've had this particular issue with Blackpool (most recently) as well as Newquay and Cardiff in the past - but in the case of Newquay, for example, they cut a couple of rotations and then later added different ones instead (they dropped a Stansted flight and later added a flight or two to Spain).
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