Edmund Posted 16 April 2009 Posted 16 April 2009 James was saying?It's funny how people ignore what they don't want to see. Ok maybe using a national front article is a bit far fetched but some of the arguments I see from you are what you would expect at a bnp rally. What I will agree on is Leicester is probably more segregated than we are led to believe. When I moved back to Leicester and went to college I was shocked by the segregation between whites/blacks and asians. Yes there was peace but you couldn't help deny that the two groups didn't mix.
Thracian Posted 16 April 2009 Posted 16 April 2009 Who gives a shit what the first language of a child is?The curriculum is in English and is delivered in English and the children learn to speak...your favourite language...English. The Welsh clearly did.
Daggers Posted 16 April 2009 Author Posted 16 April 2009 So, as a teacher, you don't think the standard of written and spoken English has fallen? If you are trying to link a decline in English standards (not born out by any research) to the increase in immigration then (again) you're going to have to get on the phone to the men with white coats. The teaching of English now occupies a greater part of the curriculum than it has done in the last forty years. I've taught classes with many students in who have had absolutely no understanding of English at the start - but usually within 12 months they are fluent. Not only that, the manner in which they apply themselves to learning the new language spills across to other subjects and they act as role models for the rest of their peers. Not only do you not have a leg to stand on with this line of argument you don't have anything to ****ing stand on either.
Daggers Posted 16 April 2009 Author Posted 16 April 2009 The Welsh clearly did. Jesus! You can be fucking insufferable at times. Wales is a different country - you were talking about England. I'm pretty sure they teach in Polish in Poland.
Finnegan Posted 16 April 2009 Posted 16 April 2009 The Welsh clearly did. 1. What Daggers said. 2. Most people in Wales settle for their children being bilingual. We have to learn English, it's still compulsary - even in the Welsh schools - and we're surrounded by English media everywhere we go. English is inescapably dominant on TV, in papers, in magazines, in film, in everything. It will never be under threat, it is not under threat. It cannot be under threat.
Guest Posted 16 April 2009 Posted 16 April 2009 I can't believe a thread dedicated to helping me with something that may seem pointless to many, has degenerated to this.
Finnegan Posted 16 April 2009 Posted 16 April 2009 I can't believe a thread dedicated to helping me with something that may seem pointless to many, has degenerated to this. I can. :\
Webbo Posted 16 April 2009 Posted 16 April 2009 I can't believe a thread dedicated to helping me with something that may seem pointless to many, has degenerated to this. Welsh is easy; a)Chuck in a couple of 'look y'eres'. b)Try to cover the person you're talking to in spittle. c)End every sentence with 'ennit?' Your natural English authority should cover the rest.
Finnegan Posted 16 April 2009 Posted 16 April 2009 Welsh is easy;a)Chuck in a couple of 'look y'eres'. b)Try to cover the person you're talking to in spittle. c)End every sentence with 'ennit?' Your natural English authority should cover the rest. [ultra] :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: [/ultra] Plus, you forgot "boyo", "'mun", "bach" and "tidy."
Edmund Posted 16 April 2009 Posted 16 April 2009 I can't believe a thread dedicated to helping me with something that may seem pointless to many, has degenerated to this.
stez Posted 16 April 2009 Posted 16 April 2009 [ultra] :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: [/ultra] Plus, you forgot "boyo", "'mun", "bach" and "tidy." and you stick w's in english words in a blatant attempt to undermine, an ultimately, eradicate the english language[/joke] <---i know how chippy you welsh can be
Fosse Boy Posted 16 April 2009 Posted 16 April 2009 I am currently putting the finishing touches to an essay on how the spread of English has affected the Welsh, Cornish and Manx languages over the ages.
Koke Posted 16 April 2009 Posted 16 April 2009 Who gives a shit what the first language of a child is?The curriculum is in English and is delivered in English and the children learn to speak...your favourite language...English. English was and still is my 3rd language (or 4th, depends on how I look at it) and I believe I turned out just fine.
Alexikokopops Posted 16 April 2009 Posted 16 April 2009 English was and still is my 3rd language (or 4th, depends on how I look at it) and I believe I turned out just fine. Yeah right! Bloody casper heads destroying our language!
Webbo Posted 16 April 2009 Posted 16 April 2009 I think I heard somewhere that not a single Welsh word has worked it's way into the English language, which is strange when you think of the amount of foreign words we've absorbed.
Edmund Posted 16 April 2009 Posted 16 April 2009 Yeah right! Bloody casper heads destroying our language! Earnshaws fault?
Daggers Posted 16 April 2009 Author Posted 16 April 2009 I think I heard somewhere that not a single Welsh word has worked it's way into the English language, which is strange when you think of the amount of foreign words we've absorbed. "What happened to you?" "Oh I've just been Bellamy'd!"
Webbo Posted 16 April 2009 Posted 16 April 2009 "What happened to you?" "Oh I've just been Bellamy'd!" That's a load of Earnshaw.
Koke Posted 16 April 2009 Posted 16 April 2009 Yeah right! Bloody casper heads destroying our language! You secretly wish you were a Casper Head.
Finnegan Posted 16 April 2009 Posted 16 April 2009 I think I heard somewhere that not a single Welsh word has worked it's way into the English language, which is strange when you think of the amount of foreign words we've absorbed. That's utter, utter rubbish. Whoever told you that is a fool. I can't give you millions of examples off hand but I know from past debates that 'car', 'corgi', 'flannel' and 'druid' are all Welsh derived words for a start.
Zingari Posted 16 April 2009 Posted 16 April 2009 I think I heard somewhere that not a single Welsh word has worked it's way into the English language, which is strange when you think of the amount of foreign words we've absorbed. here's a whole poem made of welsh words ; Oggy Oggy Oggy! Oi Oi Oi! Oggy Oggy Oggy! Oi Oi Oi! Oggy! Oi! Oggy! Oi! Oggy Oggy Oggy! Oi Oi Oi! there , no welsh words indeed
Webbo Posted 16 April 2009 Posted 16 April 2009 That's utter, utter rubbish.Whoever told you that is a fool. I can't give you millions of examples off hand but I know from past debates that 'car', 'corgi', 'flannel' and 'druid' are all Welsh derived words for a start. It was just something I heard on a TV programme, I'm not claiming it's gospel. You're probably right about Corgi, don't know about the rest.
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