DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 23 July 2009 Posted 23 July 2009 Politics and religion--- The two greatest causes of problems in the world? I think history bears this out as being so.
Guest Posted 23 July 2009 Posted 23 July 2009 An example of who's taken on their ways is illustrated by the statue on Capitol Hill, a lady of the 14th? century called Persephone, the Queen of the underworld. Now why would the Queen of the underworld be looking down from a political building on the people of America? Persephone was a character out of Greek mythology. She was the daughter of Demeter, and was kidnapped by Hades, who took her for his wife. To cut a long story short, she was allowed to spend part of the year with her mother, and whilst she did the earth was vibrant and fertile, and part of the year with her husband, when the earth would become cold and barren. It's a representation of the seasons, which is seen as cyclical.
Dr The Singh Posted 23 July 2009 Posted 23 July 2009 In my 16 years of going down the City, i have never seen any kind of racism. I'm not sticking up for it but i think our fans are well behaved on the racism thing.Also i took my mate, who's a indian to his first ever came of soccer. Was at highfield road against Cov and he sat up the top with the lads and he enjoyed it and now is a Leicester fan. It's funny, I've been going to watch city for over 20 years, away and at home, and i've been more racially abused by my own fans then away fans!!!! I must say the verbal and physical threats have died down, I think last season was the first season where I wasn't racially abused!! On the question of why alot of asians don't go to the city is because, first generation asians prefered cricket, secondly, racism is a factor, and unfortunately footy is still tinged with it, thirdly, city aren't that successful, alot of young kids opt for the big four, fourthly, cost, footy is alot more expensive to watch then say the cinema's, unless your a dedicated fan you will only go if the tickets are cheap or free!!!
haraven Posted 23 July 2009 Posted 23 July 2009 It's funny, I've been going to watch city for over 20 years, away and at home, and i've been more racially abused by my own fans then away fans!!!!I must say the verbal and physical threats have died down, I think last season was the first season where I wasn't racially abused!! That is actually quite sad to read, I was hoping Leicester City was among the better clubs regarding racial slur. There will always be a few thickheads with self-esteem issues having a go at someone for looking different than themselves, but if it has been more of a habit than not, it is sad, sad thing. Judge people by character and actions, not appearance -> if all lived after that, we'd have a much better place to stay in.
Koke Posted 23 July 2009 Posted 23 July 2009 I've only been racially abused once. Away at Sheffield Wednesday many years ago. And I quite liked Wednesday.
Edmund Posted 23 July 2009 Posted 23 July 2009 I've only been racially abused once. Away at Sheffield Wednesday many years ago. And I quite liked Wednesday. Never been personally racially abused but was sort of caught in the crossfire at Colchester Vs Burnley match layer road. Ian Wright was playing for Burnley. He took a throw in, in front of the stand I was sitting in and the guy directly behind me Shouted something along the lines of "Silly Black Bastard" which rasped down my ear Was amazing because I was sat with the colchester firm and they all turned round and confronted this guy and told him to watch his mouth as I was present. He then apoligised to me and they were all making me feel like a king and couldn't stop saying sorry. I must have only been around 13 or 14 so I was a little intimidated at first but it goes to show that its only a minority.
Fosse Boy Posted 23 July 2009 Posted 23 July 2009 What do you define as a Nazi, and equate that defined mission statement to Mark?And you know how to count When do the other adults play on this forum? You're obviously pretty close to the twat as you're on first name terms with him. Next time you see him, call him a cunt from me, would you? Much appreciated. On the whole "why don't Asians come to watch City" thing, I think you should be questioning why so many Leicester people in general, regardless of their ethnicity, don't support us. There was a thread on here a while back (can't find it now) about the fact that only one in six Leicestershire kids support City. You should be asking why local youngsters in general don't have pride in their local area, not just local Asian youngsters. As for me, I'm just going to do what I always do and blame Sky Sports and the Big Four for this problem.
lou Posted 23 July 2009 Posted 23 July 2009 Never been personally racially abused but was sort of caught in the crossfire at Colchester Vs Burnley match layer road.Ian Wright was playing for Burnley. He took a throw in, in front of the stand I was sitting in and the guy directly behind me Shouted something along the lines of "Silly Black Bastard" which rasped down my ear Was amazing because I was sat with the colchester firm and they all turned round and confronted this guy and told him to watch his mouth as I was present. He then apoligised to me and they were all making me feel like a king and couldn't stop saying sorry. I must have only been around 13 or 14 so I was a little intimidated at first but it goes to show that its only a minority. We got some dickhead shouting racial abuse at the black players at the replayed Forest cup tie at the City Ground a few seasons back. Asked him politely to tone it down as it was offending me and my Son. He then directed the same names at my Son (he was 15/16 at the time) so we told the stewards and he was nicked about ten mins later. Luckily a 2nd guy had also complained so he was charged and went to court and found guilty. Have to say the stewards and coppers at NFFC were brilliant and my Son got a letter from the club after a couple of weeks expressing their sympathy and assuring us of their zero tolerance etc. Would like to think our club would be as up on it as they were.... The copper that rang and told us what the end punishment was told us the guy who did it was from a village in Lincolnshire and not a resident of Leicester.
Raj Posted 23 July 2009 Posted 23 July 2009 Ive been called Paki,Wog and Even Bin Laden as well as the usual shite over the years(ive been going since late 80's) Had "slit your kneck' gestures towards me as well. Alot better nowadays but fcuk it. Twats in every race,religion etc.... As long as the majority outnumber the twats!
Ash08 Posted 23 July 2009 Posted 23 July 2009 Ive been called Paki,Wog and Even Bin Laden as well as the usual shite over the years(ive been going since late 80's)Had "slit your kneck' gestures towards me as well. Alot better nowadays but fcuk it. Twats in every race,religion etc.... As long as the majority outnumber the twats! Agreed. IMO, the twats are as bad as each other, whether they be White English, Eastern European, Asian, African, Afro-American, you get idiots and ****s from all walks of life.
lou Posted 23 July 2009 Posted 23 July 2009 Agreed. IMO, the twats are as bad as each other, whether they be White English, Eastern European, Asian, African, Afro-American, you get idiots and ****s from all walks of life. I seemed to be a Twat magnet! (Present hubby excluded!) I didnt mean racists by the way... just twats in general
ob1kanobe0 Posted 23 July 2009 Posted 23 July 2009 You're obviously pretty close to the twat as you're on first name terms with him. Next time you see him, call him a cunt from me, would you? Much appreciated.On the whole "why don't Asians come to watch City" thing, I think you should be questioning why so many Leicester people in general, regardless of their ethnicity, don't support us. There was a thread on here a while back (can't find it now) about the fact that only one in six Leicestershire kids support City. You should be asking why local youngsters in general don't have pride in their local area, not just local Asian youngsters. As for me, I'm just going to do what I always do and blame Sky Sports and the Big Four for this problem. Ive never met him, but if i ever do, i'll tell him his no.1 fan is you You should ask why asians, who take up about 40% of leicester's population, only form about 0.0005% of our fan base.
Flynny Posted 23 July 2009 Posted 23 July 2009 Ive never met him, but if i ever do, i'll tell him his no.1 fan is you You should ask why asians, who take up about 40% of leicester's population, only form about 0.0005% of our fan base. Genuinely, what do you reckon the cause is? I like how we can twist this and pretend you're vaguely in favour of positive discrimination (in terms of recruiting new fans )
Ultra Posted 23 July 2009 Posted 23 July 2009 Agreed. IMO, the twats are as bad as each other, whether they be White English, Eastern European, Asian, African, Afro-American, you get idiots and ****s from all walks of life. But there's no need to pander to them, like you do in your avatar.. This is a website for City fans. It has nothing to do with loyalism.
ob1kanobe0 Posted 23 July 2009 Posted 23 July 2009 Genuinely, what do you reckon the cause is? I like how we can twist this and pretend you're vaguely in favour of positive discrimination (in terms of recruiting new fans ) Genuinely, i would absolutely love it if 10,000 asians came and filled up the empty seats. There is hope, i saw city do a free schooling session for young ethnics, rather like a classroom in the ground a few years ago, at the expense of the paying customer, but could be a long term seller.
Flynny Posted 23 July 2009 Posted 23 July 2009 Genuinely, i would absolutely love it if 10,000 asians came and filled up the empty seats. There is hope, i saw city do a free schooling session for young ethnics, rather like a classroom in the ground a few years ago, at the expense of the paying customer, but could be a long term seller. Not really answered my question though.
ob1kanobe0 Posted 23 July 2009 Posted 23 July 2009 Not really answered my question though. You've pushed me for the answer, so don't be upset when i say, quite frankly my dear, they don't give a damn, meaning, they justifiably couldn't give a rats arse about integrating with whitey in that way, i know this from experience, especially at Diwalli festivals.
Ultra Posted 23 July 2009 Posted 23 July 2009 You've pushed me for the answer, so don't be upset when i say, quite frankly my dear, they don't give a damn, meaning, they justifiably couldn't give a rats arse about integrating with whitey in that way, i know this from experience, especially at Diwalli festivals. ...which I'm sure you make a point of attending every year..
ob1kanobe0 Posted 24 July 2009 Posted 24 July 2009 ...which I'm sure you make a point of attending every year.. As it happens, i do, except for the last one. The incident i found most disturbing was about 11 years ago when an Irishman who owned the newsagent next to the stage was verbally abused by 3 asian men at the counter because he dared take advantage of the celebration by putting up the price of alcohol. The shop owner had a child with an asian lady, who was hovering just round the back with the boy about 7 years of age, you could tell the man was proud because his first reaction was to stand in his partner and son's view. As i was about to buy something myself, i was at the counter, i nodded to him at a height of tension to say i will defend you and your family, he responded by stepping forward towards them and at that moment the 3 asian lads realised they were in for a uphill struggle if they started. They continued their racial hatred with verbal insults to both him, his partner and England as they walked out. In particular they raised their voices saying "we own Leicester now". The man shuck my hand and offered what i was buying for free, i insisted on paying but he gave me a 50% discount which i accepted. He wasn't there the following year, which you could describe as white flight. He was probably the last white person to own a shop along that road. As i read that back, my eyes fill with water, because i know what its like to be a victim of anti-white racism, to be ethnicly cleansed, or cleared as they say these days.
Koke Posted 24 July 2009 Posted 24 July 2009 Yeah Kobe, they are Asians racists out there - shock horror. What's your point? They are no difference to the white supremacist and the niggaz. We all got cunts that we have to put up with.
Koke Posted 24 July 2009 Posted 24 July 2009 Btw..I'm sure someone already asked you, Kobe, but who did you vote for in the recent elections? Please don't dodge the question.
BoneDog Posted 24 July 2009 Posted 24 July 2009 Politics and religion--- The two greatest causes of problems in the world? I think history bears this out as being so. Or more accuratlely, politicians who pretend to be religious. There are over 5 billion religious people in the world, and 99% of them want nothing but peace
BoneDog Posted 24 July 2009 Posted 24 July 2009 Bud, religion, or atleast the godly form, is a nightmare, the worst thing to inflict humanity IMO. Given credence by very powerfull people such as the people who re-ignited the Knights Templars of the 13th century. The KT's used to be christians, but fell out of love with that religion and sought alternative satanic practises and homosexuality. An example of who's taken on their ways is illustrated by the statue on Capitol Hill, a lady of the 14th? century called Persephone, the Queen of the underworld. Now why would the Queen of the underworld be looking down from a political building on the people of America? Meaning, today's religion has been bartasized for brainwashing purposes, Islam, Christianity etc, all infiltrated via the Vatican, who's gold reserves live in the Bank Of England, controlled by Evelyn Rothschild, the second richest human on earth, or atleast the House of Rothschild is, behind the Queen/Royalty (including the Danish (mark of dan) and the dutch).There are good muslims, there are bad muslims, and theres evil muslims who work alongside the worlds most powerful people for war purposes, all in the name of religion. Every major war over the last 300 years was orchestrated via the money men. An example of the power the money men in society have, is illustrated via Baron Nathan Mayer Rothschild, one of 5 famous sons of Amschel Mayer Rothschild who set out to conquer the world in the late 18th century, he said after helping Welligton defeat Napoleon and cleaning up on the English stock market via that win, "I care not what puppet is placed upon the throne of England. The man that controls Britain's money supply controls the British Empire - and I control the British money supply." Too right. Laden is the most high profile. But I would just call them evil and not evil Muslims, cos they aint Muslim, they are acting. And I don't think religion is the worst thing to hit humanity. If religion never existed, we would still have had all the corrupt leaders who start wars and created havoc. Religion gets the blame, but it is just power hungry groups of people that cause the trouble. They arm people (usually both sides), wait for the kick off and then pounce saying "look what these ****ers are doing, we better stop them". As for the KT's, they were others who pretended to be religious, when in fact they only went to Jerusalem to dig and steal precious artifacts and try and take over this influencial land.
Tabou Posted 24 July 2009 Posted 24 July 2009 Btw..I'm sure someone already asked you, Kobe, but who did you vote for in the recent elections? Please don't dodge the question. I asked it, twice. Answer the question Kobe!
ob1kanobe0 Posted 24 July 2009 Posted 24 July 2009 Too right. Laden is the most high profile. But I would just call them evil and not evil Muslims, cos they aint Muslim, they are acting.And I don't think religion is the worst thing to hit humanity. If religion never existed, we would still have had all the corrupt leaders who start wars and created havoc. Religion gets the blame, but it is just power hungry groups of people that cause the trouble. They arm people (usually both sides), wait for the kick off and then pounce saying "look what these ****ers are doing, we better stop them". As for the KT's, they were others who pretended to be religious, when in fact they only went to Jerusalem to dig and steal precious artifacts and try and take over this influencial land. Is Bin Laden dead?, this assasinated lady thinks so 3min50 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8120236576648647371 Religion try's to force people into believing their way, and if they don't, their "bad people", religion = fascism. Religion has also been abused by world leaders (not Obama or brown ) they couldn't leade alcoholicks into a pub, im talking about the Rothschild's and Rockefellers of this world, they have infiltrated religion to make people follow, only their version of religion is a very dark way, satanic, hence the Persephone statue, the satanic hand sign, the UGLE freemason hand shake, the fascist pillars you see at the white house, on a dollar note. America was taken over to create a military monster by these people. On the subject of freemasonry, the American statue of "liberty", a sculpture of Mary Magdeline (Jesus's half sister and lover), was sculptured by a French freemason, not at all American then. Is Leicester's new statue of "liberty" a freemason satanistic worshiping sculpture, disguised as Mary Magdeline? The KT's were Catholic warriors, bloody good at their job too, which gave them reason to abandon that awful concept.
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