Dr The Singh Posted 22 July 2009 Posted 22 July 2009 Exactly Im sure its an occupational hazard for MP's but they dont all go around having their assailants beaten up by their "minders" Being an MP, you would have thought Griffin would set an example and either take the abuse and show some discipline or let the law deal with it!!! I know he personally didn't give the guy a going over but surely he does have control over his security personnel!!
Ultra Posted 22 July 2009 Posted 22 July 2009 Would the BNP believe the police would defend them? Would the BNP think the police have more important things like trying to catch 1 million illegal immigrants? I often here people say, i was robbed but i didn't phone the police because they don't do anything anyway.If you recall, Mr Griffin was charged on "incitement to racial hatred" charges by the CPS and the Police's employers (Labour) in 2006?, 12 men and women of the public found him and Leicester lad Mark Collett not guilty, you can add the Liverpool 12, the dawn raid on a BNP MEP candidate june 3rd?, the police took money and phones etc to stop him in his election build up, no charges, no crime committed. The police stood by and let the Labour, Conservative etc sponsered thugs of UAF attack them june 9th? this year, so why would the BNP think the police would defend them? This is the same BNP who organised an illegal parade in Westminster last month, and who have close links with the hooligan gang the English Defence League. Time for them to explain whether they accept the rule of law or they don't. And yes, while Mark Collett may originate from Leicester, he's on record as an admirer of Adolf Hitler, and also strongly rumoured to be a paedo.
Corky Posted 22 July 2009 Posted 22 July 2009 Did the BNP admit to giving the thug a good going over? Who is going to defend Nick Griffin if they aren't members of the BNP?
lou Posted 22 July 2009 Posted 22 July 2009 no they don't , John Prescott used to give egg throwers a good hiding himself Yeah I did nearly mention him.... he was a law unto himself! At least that was 1 on 1
ob1kanobe0 Posted 22 July 2009 Posted 22 July 2009 Being an MP, you would have thought Griffin would set an example and either take the abuse and show some discipline or let the law deal with it!!! I know he personally didn't give the guy a going over but surely he does have control over his security personnel!! Mr Griffin wasn't acting as BNP chairman whilst having dinner that night, therefore it has little to do with his Parliamentary job, which he hadn't technicly started at that point.
ob1kanobe0 Posted 22 July 2009 Posted 22 July 2009 This is the same BNP who organised an illegal parade in Westminster last month, and who have close links with the hooligan gang the English Defence League.Time for them to explain whether they accept the rule of law or they don't. And yes, while Mark Collett may originate from Leicester, he's also strongly rumoured to be a paedo. Illegal parade? Close links? What is wrong with the EDL? who'm ive never heard of. Mark a peado? Time for you to stop spreading malicious gossip and lies?
Dr The Singh Posted 22 July 2009 Posted 22 July 2009 Mr Griffin wasn't acting as BNP chairman whilst having dinner that night, therefore it has little to do with his Parliamentary job, which he hadn't technicly started at that point. It's not about him being on the job, as an MP you should be expected to behave in a manner that reflects character and morals, what he does in his own home is one thing but in public is another, this goes for any MP, whether it be K Vaz, Gordon or Cameron!!
James. Posted 22 July 2009 Posted 22 July 2009 Did the BNP admit to giving the thug a good going over? I'm not debating this with you. I'm just explaining the point lou was making, which you missed. But since you asked of course the BNP didn't admit to it. So? Anyway my one and only point is that the more abuse of this nature Griffin gets the better.
haraven Posted 22 July 2009 Posted 22 July 2009 Mr Griffin wasn't acting as BNP chairman whilst having dinner that night, therefore it has little to do with his Parliamentary job, which he hadn't technicly started at that point.
ob1kanobe0 Posted 22 July 2009 Posted 22 July 2009 Who is going to defend Nick Griffin if they aren't members of the BNP? Voltaire "I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it."
Zingari Posted 22 July 2009 Posted 22 July 2009 Yeah I did nearly mention him.... he was a law unto himself! At least that was 1 on 1 politics would be a far better with "1 on 1" scrapping ; in the blue corner from , Grantham ............. Margaret " ballcrusher " Thatcher....... ( loud cheers and whistles) and , in the red corner from Sheffield........... David " lights out " Blunkett ....( shouts again) what a mouthwatering contest that would be
Tabou Posted 22 July 2009 Posted 22 July 2009 I'm not debating this with you. I'm just explaining the point lou was making, which you missed. But since you asked of course the BNP didn't admit to it. So?Anyway my one and only point is that the more abuse of this nature Griffin gets the better. Words cannot describe how much I crave the opportunity to be on Question Time with a member of the BNP.
ob1kanobe0 Posted 22 July 2009 Posted 22 July 2009 It's not about him being on the job, as an MP you should be expected to behave in a manner that reflects character and morals, what he does in his own home is one thing but in public is another, this goes for any MP, whether it be K Vaz, Gordon or Cameron!! What did Mr Griffin do wrong? Should Gordon Brown and David Cameron stop sponsoring the UAF thugs who attacked the BNP june 9th? Which isn't a one-off incident, the UAF hit a BNP member over the head with a hammer a few months ago. http://www.sundaymail.co.uk/news/newsfeed/...78057-21198941/ I remember seeing the blood on his head, wasn't pretty.
ob1kanobe0 Posted 22 July 2009 Posted 22 July 2009 I'm not debating this with you. I'm just explaining the point lou was making, which you missed. But since you asked of course the BNP didn't admit to it. So?Anyway my one and only point is that the more abuse of this nature Griffin gets the better. If they didn't admit to it, its hearsay, in England we're innocent until proved otherwise. So you advocate abuse, thats great for kids on this site to read
Dr The Singh Posted 22 July 2009 Posted 22 July 2009 What did Mr Griffin do wrong?Should Gordon Brown and David Cameron stop sponsoring the UAF thugs who attacked the BNP june 9th? Which isn't a one-off incident, the UAF hit a BNP member over the head with a hammer a few months ago. http://www.sundaymail.co.uk/news/newsfeed/...78057-21198941/ I remember seeing the blood on his head, wasn't pretty. If Gordon or Cameron personally hang around with the guys from the UAF, and have some personal influence over them, then yes they should, don't you agree and the same goes for Griffin, and his goons!!
James. Posted 22 July 2009 Posted 22 July 2009 If they didn't admit to it, its hearsay, in England we're innocent until proved otherwise. Great. You believe what you want to believe. So you advocate abuse, thats great for kids on this site to read You'll notice that my post read "abuse of this nature". I'm not condoning hitting people on the head with hammers (although I wouldn't lose any sleep if someone did that to Griffin). I'm talking about ridiculing racists. Pint spilling, egg throwing, whatever. All good in my book.
Tabou Posted 22 July 2009 Posted 22 July 2009 What did Mr Griffin do wrong?Should Gordon Brown and David Cameron stop sponsoring the UAF thugs who attacked the BNP june 9th? Which isn't a one-off incident, the UAF hit a BNP member over the head with a hammer a few months ago. http://www.sundaymail.co.uk/news/newsfeed/...78057-21198941/ I remember seeing the blood on his head, wasn't pretty. Neither is the torrent or racial abuse suffered at the hands of thugs in places like Bradford. If they didn't admit to it, its hearsay, in England we're innocent until proved otherwise.So you advocate abuse, thats great for kids on this site to read It may be the case that the kids on this site could make up their own minds on different subjects. It's a shame the same can't be said for followers of the BNP.
Ultra Posted 22 July 2009 Posted 22 July 2009 If they didn't admit to it, its hearsay, in England we're innocent until proved otherwise.So you advocate abuse, thats great for kids on this site to read What did Mr Griffin do wrong?Should Gordon Brown and David Cameron stop sponsoring the UAF thugs who attacked the BNP june 9th? Which isn't a one-off incident, the UAF hit a BNP member over the head with a hammer a few months ago. http://www.sundaymail.co.uk/news/newsfeed/...78057-21198941/ I remember seeing the blood on his head, wasn't pretty. So Brown and Cameron are no longer "British" then?
lou Posted 22 July 2009 Posted 22 July 2009 Illegal parade? Close links? What is wrong with the EDL? who'm ive never heard of.Mark a peado? Time for you to stop spreading malicious gossip and lies? Its paedo! And he said "strongly rumoured to be" not quite the same thing
ob1kanobe0 Posted 22 July 2009 Posted 22 July 2009 If Gordon or Cameron personally hang around with the guys from the UAF, and have some personal influence over them, then yes they should, don't you agree and the same goes for Griffin, and his goons!! If it wasn't for the likes of our Prime Minister and the leader of the opposition, the UAF would have to find a job. Keith Vaz is a UAF signator to UAF thugs http://www.uaf.org.uk/aboutUAF.asp?choice=4 Mr Griffin has body gaurds that know how to defend themselves, and quite possibly have done bad in the past, but as employees of the BNP, to my knowledge they've not done anything illegal. If you were the most hated politician in the world, you'd want a few beef eaters as body gaurds.
James. Posted 22 July 2009 Posted 22 July 2009 So Brown and Cameron are no longer "British" then? Haha. Good spot. ob1bo1kbk1eo getting turned over in a debate again.
lou Posted 22 July 2009 Posted 22 July 2009 If it wasn't for the likes of our Prime Minister and the leader of the opposition, the UAF would have to find a job.Keith Vaz is a UAF signator to UAF thugs http://www.uaf.org.uk/aboutUAF.asp?choice=4 Mr Griffin has body gaurds that know how to defend themselves, and quite possibly have done bad in the past, but as employees of the BNP, to my knowledge they've not done anything illegal. If you were the most hated politician in the world, you'd want a few beef eaters as body gaurds. Your knowledge seems incredibly good on the subject.
ob1kanobe0 Posted 22 July 2009 Posted 22 July 2009 You'll notice that my post read "abuse of this nature". I'm not condoning hitting people on the head with hammers (although I wouldn't lose any sleep if someone did that to Griffin). I'm talking about ridiculing racists. Pint spilling, egg throwing, whatever. All good in my book. If i thought you knew what racism was, i'd believe you.
Ultra Posted 22 July 2009 Posted 22 July 2009 If you were the most hated politician in the world, you'd want a few beef eaters as body gaurds. lol Such delusions of grandeur. 99% of the world's population outside the UK don't even know who Nick Griffin is.
ob1kanobe0 Posted 22 July 2009 Posted 22 July 2009 So Brown and Cameron are no longer "British" then? Who said they wern't british?
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