Salieri Posted 5 July 2009 Posted 5 July 2009 If we're gonna win this series Freddie's gonna have to be on top of his game bowling wise. Our batting line up looks fairly strong but i'm not totally convinced by our bowling attack.
dandannieldanok Posted 5 July 2009 Posted 5 July 2009 Not sure who's worse, Panesar or Hauritz. Will be a laugh to see two players as poor as that pair grace an ashes series.
Milky Posted 5 July 2009 Posted 5 July 2009 Not sure who's worse, Panesar or Hauritz. Will be a laugh to see two players as poor as that pair grace an ashes series. Monty deserves more respect than that. They don't just give you 135 test wickets or 8 test five fors. Hauritz aint fit to wipe his arse.
Uncle Albert Posted 5 July 2009 Posted 5 July 2009 Panesar is a much better bowler than our previous spinner in a home Ashes series. Ashley Giles
Milky Posted 5 July 2009 Posted 5 July 2009 Ian Bell?! Who else is there? over 3000 test runs at an average over 40. He's no mug.
Fox You Forest Posted 5 July 2009 Posted 5 July 2009 Ian Bell?! I doubt he'll be in the eleven. Not sure who's worse, Panesar or Hauritz. Will be a laugh to see two players as poor as that pair grace an ashes series.
Ultra Posted 5 July 2009 Posted 5 July 2009 Panesar is a much better bowler than our previous spinner in a home Ashes series. Ashley Giles Is this the same Panesar whose record against the Aussies reads P3 L3? Graeme Swann has overtaken him as our premier spinner.
Fox You Forest Posted 5 July 2009 Posted 5 July 2009 Is this the same Panesar whose record against the Aussies reads P3 L3? Graeme Swann has overtaken him as our premier spinner. That's correct, played three and lost three.. He took ten wickets in a losing side, Giles only took ten in 2005 in 5 tests in a winning side. Nobody is disputing that Swann is ahead at the minute.
Ultra Posted 5 July 2009 Posted 5 July 2009 Giles also made a couple of useful knocks in 05. Indeed, his runs at Trent Bridge won us that match and ultimately the series. I doubt Monty could play a role like that.
Fox You Forest Posted 5 July 2009 Posted 5 July 2009 Panesar is a much better bowler than our previous spinner in a home Ashes series. Ashley Giles Giles also made a couple of useful knocks in 05. Indeed, his runs at Trent Bridge won us that match and ultimately the series.I doubt Monty could play a role like that.
Sods Posted 5 July 2009 Posted 5 July 2009 Panesar is a much better bowler than our previous spinner in a home Ashes series. Ashley Giles Really? Ashley Giles would always come up with important wickets and he took a fair few. Monty is very much hit and miss.
AjcW Posted 6 July 2009 Posted 6 July 2009 Andrew Strauss (capt) James Anderson Ian Bell Ravi Bopara Stuart Broad Paul Collingwood Alastair Cook Andrew Flintoff Graham Onions Monty Panesar Kevin Pietersen Matt Prior Graeme Swann. Squad with my starting 11 in bold.... rather obvious really.
SOCCERROO FOX Posted 6 July 2009 Posted 6 July 2009 Just put on a Multi Siddle most wickets in to Katich most runs paying $72 for a $1 so put $20 on him also got siddle in to Bopara and Hughes.
Corky Posted 6 July 2009 Posted 6 July 2009 Andrew Strauss (capt)James Anderson Ian Bell Ravi Bopara Stuart Broad Paul Collingwood Alastair Cook Andrew Flintoff Graham Onions Monty Panesar Kevin Pietersen Matt Prior Graeme Swann. Squad with my starting 11 in bold.... rather obvious really. Yep, I'd agree with that.
Milky Posted 6 July 2009 Posted 6 July 2009 Andrew Strauss (capt)James Anderson Ian Bell Ravi Bopara Stuart Broad Paul Collingwood Alastair Cook Andrew Flintoff Graham Onions Monty Panesar Kevin Pietersen Matt Prior Graeme Swann. Squad with my starting 11 in bold.... rather obvious really. They could play two spinners so it's not that obvious yet.
SOCCERROO FOX Posted 6 July 2009 Posted 6 July 2009 What is obvious tho is Graheme Onions will have the best name in the series.
Tevez Posted 6 July 2009 Posted 6 July 2009 I really hope we win the Ashes so we can abuse the Aussies on here.
SOCCERROO FOX Posted 6 July 2009 Posted 6 July 2009 I really hope we win the Ashes so we can abuse the Aussies on here. Do it regardless
dandannieldanok Posted 6 July 2009 Posted 6 July 2009 Really? Ashley Giles would always come up with important wickets and he took a fair few. Monty is very much hit and miss. Exactly, Giles was hardly brilliant but at least he was reliable. Monty could either have the Aussies in a real mess or just give a shedload of runs away, he's completely inconsistent and why I wouldn't have him in the squad. Cardiff may been a spinner's track but I don't agree that we should have to go in with two spinners unless they are your best bowlers. It is quite clear that our best bowling attack includes only one spinner, Graeme Swann. You have to play the percentages and simply choose the best players. Australia are only going in with one specialist spinner because that's all they've got, in my eyes that's all we should have too because Panesar is nowhere near the form required for an Ashes series.
Ultra Posted 6 July 2009 Posted 6 July 2009 Exactly, Giles was hardly brilliant but at least he was reliable. Monty could either have the Aussies in a real mess or just give a shedload of runs away, he's completely inconsistent and why I wouldn't have him in the squad. Cardiff may been a spinner's track but I don't agree that we should have to go in with two spinners unless they are your best bowlers. It is quite clear that our best bowling attack includes only one spinner, Graeme Swann. You have to play the percentages and simply choose the best players. Australia are only going in with one specialist spinner because that's all they've got, in my eyes that's all we should have too because Panesar is nowhere near the form required for an Ashes series. Someone else who sees the light...
Fox You Forest Posted 6 July 2009 Posted 6 July 2009 The reason you knew what you were going to get from Giles is because he couldn't spin it, he relied on batsmen getting themselves out rather than being a genuine wicket taker and that's what Monty is. I can't wait for it now. Wonder if this thread will generate more posts than the Windies series.
Milky Posted 6 July 2009 Posted 6 July 2009 The reason you knew what you were going to get from Giles is because he couldn't spin it, he relied on batsmen getting themselves out rather than being a genuine wicket taker and that's what Monty is. I can't wait for it now. Wonder if this thread will generate more posts than the Windies series. Only if we're doing badly.
Ultra Posted 6 July 2009 Posted 6 July 2009 Brett Lee ruled out of first two Tests Such a shame, just when he was getting back into form..
Fox You Forest Posted 6 July 2009 Posted 6 July 2009 Brett Lee ruled out of first two TestsSuch a shame, just when he was getting back into form.. :D
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