BlueSi13 Posted 20 June 2009 Posted 20 June 2009 Overall, despite going out which would be devastating as always, id be delighted if we could make it to the semi-finals and bow out with pride, ive been disappointed, baffled, and saddened by some of the anti english national team sentiment that has become far too noticeable ever since we went out in 2006, hopefully a good tournament will bring the nation together on the issue again With progress like that i think we really would stand a chance at wining Euro 2012
Guest Bilo Posted 20 June 2009 Posted 20 June 2009 England aren't the best side in the world by a long way. For me, Spain, Brazil and Holland are all better. You could possibly throw Argentina into that if they sort themselves out, as poor as they are at the minute their talent can't be ignored. That said, do you really need to be the best and most talented side in the world to win a World Cup? Italy weren't in 2006, nor were Germany in 1990. What both teams were was consistent, gutsy and dare I say it, fortuitous when they needed to be. England have lacked all of those things in recent years which is why we haven't come close to lifting a trophy. If these things do come to England though, we will go as one of 5 or 6 teams with a real shot at winning the tournament. The South African winter will suit Northern European players far better than the hothouses of Japan and South Korea in 2002, and this will benefit the likes of France, England and Germany. With France seemingly in decline, and Germany not pulling up any trees right now, England could be the greatest benificiaries of this factor. Only three teams in Europe have a 100% record in qualifying at this stage, Spain, Holland (who have already qualified) and England. That is the company that England are in right now. I'm not going to go skipping down the street saying we're gonna win the thing, but we do have the best opportunity in some years, possibly since 1990. There are problems of course, we need a world-class keeper from somewhere and squad depth could be a problem if injuries hit. Take out any of what I would call the key players of Terry, Ferdinand, Lampard, Gerrard or Rooney and it's difficult to see a suitable stand-in, even with the talented under 21s playing as they are. Without wanting to sound like Alan Hansen, we aren't going to win the World Cup with kids. Still, good fortune before and at the tournament, mixed with consistency and the kind of play that has given us 7 wins from 7 in the qualifiers could give all in England a very enjoyable summer next year.
SOCCERROO FOX Posted 20 June 2009 Posted 20 June 2009 Australia vs Italy was a good match in 06 if i remember correctly. We ahould of one italy down 10 men we hadn't used a sub just waiting for extra time. Then 93rd minute lucus neil penalty, makes me angry thinking about it
Uncle Albert Posted 1 July 2009 Posted 1 July 2009 Germany will win it, mark my words Always strong but I dont think they will do well, they may be the big team to fail at the World Cup.
General Smuts Posted 1 July 2009 Posted 1 July 2009 Germany's World Cup form cannot be ignored. I hate them but they always bring thier A-Game to finals.
Radovan's Caravan Posted 1 July 2009 Posted 1 July 2009 How you hoofers perform against the Dutch next month will tell us something about your World Cup prospects. The Dutch have already qualified with maxcimum points thus far. England will do well to hold them away from home. England's record against the Dutch, French, Italians, Portuguese and Swedes has been piss poor over the last decade (ie zilch wins). And most of the players responsible for these abject surrenders are still in your first team. Remember, these are exactly the kind of teams that you will be facing in the knock out phase. And on top of them you've got the west African sides who will be highlyt motivated on 'home'soil. Many of their players ply their trade in the EPL and have first hand experience of your glaring limitations. And if the Africans weren't enough there's also the small matter of the Brazilians. Time to snap out of denial chums and concede you don't have a prayer. 'Whenever you imagine winning the World Cup you will feel a sharp stabbing pain'
lavrentis Posted 1 July 2009 Posted 1 July 2009 Not really a very good wind up merchant are you. You know an awful lot about English football. Closet fan?
Ultra Posted 1 July 2009 Posted 1 July 2009 How you hoofers perform against the Dutch next month will tell us something about your World Cup prospects. The Dutch have already qualified with maxcimum points thus far. England will do well to hold them away from home. We went there under McClaren and outplayed them in a draw. Having won in Croatia and Germany last season, we should have no worries about taking on the Dutch. England's record against the Dutch, French, Italians, Portuguese and Swedes has been piss poor over the last decade (ie zilch wins). And most of the players responsible for these abject surrenders are still in your first team. Remember, these are exactly the kind of teams that you will be facing in the knock out phase. Really? Last I heard France, Portugal and Sweden were all struggling in the group stages (the latter two may not even make the playoffs) and Italy didn't seem too impressive either. And on top of them you've got the west African sides who will be highlyt motivated on 'home'soil. Many of their players ply their trade in the EPL and have first hand experience of your glaring limitations. And if the Africans weren't enough there's also the small matter of the Brazilians. As the players from these nations do indeed largely play in European leagues, they may have the same issues with end-of-season burnout that Europeans have had in the past. Time to snap out of denial chums and concede you don't have a prayer. We may not be favourites, but could be good for an each-way bet. If Sven could take us to the quarter-finals (twice!) there's no reason why Capello can't do at least as well.
Radovan's Caravan Posted 1 July 2009 Posted 1 July 2009 Not really a very good wind up merchant are you. You know an awful lot about English football. Closet fan? I am half Serb half English. I like the EPL but despise your FA. The latter are chiefly responsible for the deplorable technical ability of professional English players and this extends to your internationals. So it is logical to conclude that I despise the England team too. But not in the same way that fans of other countries within the British Isles do. I simply hate England's style of play. It's ironic that England's style is closer to The Championship than the EPL... ...where there are not quite as many Africans, Latino's, Slavs... I also find England fans' optimism deeply irritating (and a little sad). With up to EIGHT of your current side having failed consistently in their prime under that lecherous Swede you now expect these golden oldies to go two better (when there are even more good teams about). Unlike England, Faria Alam showed considerable technical ability under Sven Capello could do a lot worse than recognise your limitations, admit you cannot mix it with, say, the top ten teams and switch you to a counter attacking style (a la Greece, USA etc). You might then just match your 2002/2006 performances. But a 5 - 8 finish (ie Quarter Finals) could be considered modest for a so called 'big team'. Personally, I think a 5 - 8 finish would be really good for a team whose FIFA ranking should be 58
Shrenchel Posted 2 July 2009 Posted 2 July 2009 EPL? Fvcking mongy chump. What are you even doing here, your inane photo captions are doing my nut. Anyone thinking of goinf, Ethopian Airlines can get you there and back for £700 quid, need to phone them though. Gunna get on it in the next couple of weeks, should be a laugh.
Radovan's Caravan Posted 2 July 2009 Posted 2 July 2009 EPL? Fvcking mongy chump. What are you even doing here, your inane photo captions are doing my nut. Anyone thinking of goinf, Ethopian Airlines can get you there and back for £700 quid, need to phone them though. Gunna get on it in the next couple of weeks, should be a laugh. Only a 'fvcking mongy chump' would consider hanging on to wreckage in the Indian Ocean a bit of a laugh.
Shrenchel Posted 2 July 2009 Posted 2 July 2009 A humourless cvnt and a casual racist? You must have them queuing up.
Radovan's Caravan Posted 2 July 2009 Posted 2 July 2009 A humourless cvnt and a casual racist? You must have them queuing up. Master of wit and repartee you are definitely not. And you are a stinking hypocritical xenophobe - like most PC arseholes.
Shrenchel Posted 2 July 2009 Posted 2 July 2009 You don't even know me you goon. Why don't you do one. You contribute nothing to this place apart from the willy puller's cramp people get from scrolling through your monotonous posts.
Radovan's Caravan Posted 2 July 2009 Posted 2 July 2009 You don't even know me you goon. Why don't you do one. You contribute nothing to this place apart from the willy puller's cramp people get from scrolling through your monotonous posts. And wanking is something you clearly know a lot about. Now go and be a good little multi cultural twat and fly Yemenia...
StanSP Posted 2 July 2009 Posted 2 July 2009 How you hoofers perform against the Dutch next month will tell us something about your World Cup prospects. The Dutch have already qualified with maxcimum points thus far. England will do well to hold them away from home.England's record against the Dutch, French, Italians, Portuguese and Swedes has been piss poor over the last decade (ie zilch wins). And most of the players responsible for these abject surrenders are still in your first team. Remember, these are exactly the kind of teams that you will be facing in the knock out phase. And on top of them you've got the west African sides who will be highlyt motivated on 'home'soil. Many of their players ply their trade in the EPL and have first hand experience of your glaring limitations. And if the Africans weren't enough there's also the small matter of the Brazilians. Time to snap out of denial chums and concede you don't have a prayer. 'Whenever you imagine winning the World Cup you will feel a sharp stabbing pain' We have maximum points too. It's not that we're in denial. We just generally think that we have a chance. Under Capello there seems to be some discipline, and he's the only England manager in recent years that WILL drop the big players if they don't perform. African teams aren't a threat. They have individuals yeah, but as a team, they're not as good as England.
Uncle Albert Posted 2 July 2009 Posted 2 July 2009 How you hoofers perform against the Dutch next month will tell us something about your World Cup prospects. The Dutch have already qualified with maxcimum points thus far. England will do well to hold them away from home.England's record against the Dutch, French, Italians, Portuguese and Swedes has been piss poor over the last decade (ie zilch wins). And most of the players responsible for these abject surrenders are still in your first team. Remember, these are exactly the kind of teams that you will be facing in the knock out phase. And on top of them you've got the west African sides who will be highlyt motivated on 'home'soil. Many of their players ply their trade in the EPL and have first hand experience of your glaring limitations. And if the Africans weren't enough there's also the small matter of the Brazilians. Time to snap out of denial chums and concede you don't have a prayer. 'Whenever you imagine winning the World Cup you will feel a sharp stabbing pain' Two words.. Fuck off.
Tommy G Posted 2 July 2009 Posted 2 July 2009 I think Spain or Brazil for obvious reasons. England will be hyped up again but I can't see us getting past the quarters. If we have back pass Lampard playing with an ageing Beckham in the team it won't help. We also need another Rooney to partner the genius up front. There are easily 6 or 7 teams in the world that are much better than us. Im English but I'm also in check with reality, we've hardly got a sniff but you can always dream.
Maybes Posted 2 July 2009 Posted 2 July 2009 I think Spain or Brazil for obvious reasons. England will be hyped up again but I can't see us getting past the quarters. If we have back pass Lampard playing with an ageing Beckham in the team it won't help. We also need another Rooney to partner the genius up front. There are easily 6 or 7 teams in the world that are much better than us. Im English but I'm also in check with reality, we've hardly got a sniff but you can always dream. This pretty much. If we had Torres and Villa up top it would be a different story
Uncle Albert Posted 2 July 2009 Posted 2 July 2009 There are easily 6 or 7 teams in the world that are much better than us. Im English but I'm also in check with reality, we've hardly got a sniff but you can always dream. Noway are there 6 or 7 teams better than us. Spain and Brazil are the only two teams that I think are better than us, if both teams were playing their best football.
Webbo Posted 2 July 2009 Posted 2 July 2009 You don't have to be the best team to win a cup competition.
Guest Bilo Posted 2 July 2009 Posted 2 July 2009 How you hoofers perform against the Dutch next month will tell us something about your World Cup prospects. The Dutch have already qualified with maxcimum points thus far. England will do well to hold them away from home.England's record against the Dutch, French, Italians, Portuguese and Swedes has been piss poor over the last decade (ie zilch wins). And most of the players responsible for these abject surrenders are still in your first team. Remember, these are exactly the kind of teams that you will be facing in the knock out phase. And on top of them you've got the west African sides who will be highlyt motivated on 'home'soil. Many of their players ply their trade in the EPL and have first hand experience of your glaring limitations. And if the Africans weren't enough there's also the small matter of the Brazilians. Time to snap out of denial chums and concede you don't have a prayer. 'Whenever you imagine winning the World Cup you will feel a sharp stabbing pain' Radovan's Caravan = Serbia's answer to Brilliant White.
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