coale39 Posted 16 July 2009 Posted 16 July 2009 Immigrant neighbor keeping you up at night?Immigrant neighbor shagging your daughter? No need to worry. Here at JLB credit, we are happy to help finance your immigrant extermination. We have three plans available. The BNP finance plan. The blame it on whitey plan. The Immigrant is taking my job plan. Contact us for your immigrant needs. A.Johnson BNP plan please. Griffins such a winner. I understand where people are coming from regarding this. Obviously there has to be a limit to the amount of people coming in. Its funny that in that interview posted earlier, Griffin actually didnt have a plan. Just "we will have a national debate". I bet most of the difficult parts of his "manifesto" have this. so say theoretically we have a limit of people allowed in to this country. A figure which pleases both camps. Surely 1-2 % of net population immigration (legal) a year people cant say were being 'swamped'? You could possibly have monthly limits and favour immigrants whos skills are needed most at that present time. Immigrants who dont have skills required must have a reason such as ethnic cleansing etc would not be allowed entry. I dont know much about the current points system, but if its similar to this then the problem isnt with the system in place, but how were implementing it. And thats a different argument.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 16 July 2009 Posted 16 July 2009 Its not your point though it's the opposite. I can't be arsed to explain but read my post properly What I was saying was quite the opposite. I know that, but your argument is double edged, which is why I answered the way I did!
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 16 July 2009 Posted 16 July 2009 No, the NHS takes on ethnic/foreign medics because the indigenous ones that have been funded through med school bugger off to other countries once qualified, because they will earn more money that way. Sorry Lisa, but that argument is totally flawed and incorrect. This is merely what you would like to believe, I suspect.
Guest Posted 16 July 2009 Posted 16 July 2009 Good point, I'm sure I read somewhere a couple of years ago that we have more people actually emigrate from Britain than we have coming in. It has been the case, but it fluctuates. The latest net immigration figures I saw showed the opposite, but we do have an ageing population and a falling birth rate. Those who are reproducing are apparently from the "wrong" socio-economic group, and won't contribute enough to keep the oldies. Apparently. The number of people coming into the UK legitimately is less than 600,000, which is less than 1% of the total UK population. This will also include EU citizens exercising their right to live and work in the UK. And your point is?Where we'd be sunk (pardon the pun) by immigration or not, the first rule of government is to protect the nations people, therefore, having a policy whereby 100million could enter our country and destroy it, is wrong. There has to come a point whereby you say a certain number is enough and no more are allowed in. Just answer the question. How long has mass immigration been part of the UK? How long have border controls been around? Do you really think 100,000,000 of the world's poorest and deprived can afford to travel to the UK to take our jobs, homes, etc? If you do, then you clearly are the hysterical one.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 16 July 2009 Posted 16 July 2009 They can't because of those bloody British doctors stealing their jobs. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Oh you poor thing!
purpleronnie Posted 16 July 2009 Posted 16 July 2009 ob1kanobe0 is just another moron who believes we're overrun, despite fewer immigrants entering the UK than countries like Holland, Germany, who believes we have the most lax immigrant laws despite the fact we have some of the toughest in the world, but who cares? he's an idiot.
ob1kanobe0 Posted 16 July 2009 Posted 16 July 2009 Just answer the question. How long has mass immigration been part of the UK? How long have border controls been around?Do you really think 100,000,000 of the world's poorest and deprived can afford to travel to the UK to take our jobs, homes, etc? If you do, then you clearly are the hysterical one. Temper, temper. 300 years. 300 years. Yes. It is hysterical, and very dangerous, to believe that we should have uncontrolled immigration, which by the words you type, is yours and the current insane stance.
Ultra Posted 16 July 2009 Posted 16 July 2009 Temper, temper. 300 years. 300 years.Yes. It is hysterical, and very dangerous, to believe that we should have uncontrolled immigration, which by the words you type, is yours and the current insane stance. Give ANY evidence you have to back up that claim.
Guest Posted 16 July 2009 Posted 16 July 2009 Temper, temper. 300 years. 300 years.Yes. It is hysterical, and very dangerous, to believe that we should have uncontrolled immigration, which by the words you type, is yours and the current insane stance. The Norman invasion was longer than 300 years ago. The Angles and the Saxons and the Danes were here before the Normans. If you can't win an argument properly, always resort to ridiculing the opposition. It helps no end.
ob1kanobe0 Posted 16 July 2009 Posted 16 July 2009 ob1kanobe0 is just another moron who believes we're overrun, despite fewer immigrants entering the UK than countries like Holland, Germany, who believes we have the most lax immigrant laws despite the fact we have some of the toughest in the world, but who cares? he's an idiot. I wasn't aware that abuse was part of FoxesTalk rules? Where do i sign up to snitch?
Guest Posted 16 July 2009 Posted 16 July 2009 I wasn't aware that abuse was part of FoxesTalk rules? Where do i sign up to snitch? But calling someone hysterical is ok? Fair enough.
ob1kanobe0 Posted 16 July 2009 Posted 16 July 2009 Give ANY evidence you have to back up that claim. Theres something between 500,000 to 1,000,000 illegals roaming our streets. Some of the controlled immigrants claim benefit from day one and have never payed icome tax. etc etc. Controlled immigration means protecting the country.
ob1kanobe0 Posted 16 July 2009 Posted 16 July 2009 The Norman invasion was longer than 300 years ago. The Angles and the Saxons and the Danes were here before the Normans. If you can't win an argument properly, always resort to ridiculing the opposition. It helps no end. Were we the UK back then? Is your second point a contradiction? Why are you being nasty to me, im only having a bit of fun with you amongst the heated subject. But calling someone hysterical is ok? Fair enough. You tell me, is both ok or neither?
Guest Posted 16 July 2009 Posted 16 July 2009 Theres something between 500,000 to 1,000,000 illegals roaming our streets. Some of the controlled immigrants claim benefit from day one and have never payed icome tax. etc etc.Controlled immigration means protecting the country. We have controlled immigration, and it doesn't prevent illegal immigration. Nobody knows how many illegal immigrants are in the UK. Only those seeking, or have been granted asylum or leave to remain are allowed to claim benefits. Including dependents, there were30k applications last year. 70% were refused. As a percentage, it's negligible.
Guest Posted 16 July 2009 Posted 16 July 2009 Were we the UK back then?Is your second point a contradiction? Why are you being nasty to me, im only having a bit of fun with you amongst the heated subject. You tell me, is both ok or neither? Semantics, my dear. These Isles have been subject to immigration for centuries. I haven't felt the need to delete or tell anyone off yet, and you can still post
ob1kanobe0 Posted 16 July 2009 Posted 16 July 2009 We have controlled immigration, and it doesn't prevent illegal immigration.Nobody knows how many illegal immigrants are in the UK. Only those seeking, or have been granted asylum or leave to remain are allowed to claim benefits. Including dependents, there were30k applications last year. 70% were refused. As a percentage, it's negligible. controlled immigration prevents illegal immigration. Didn't a government official state 600,000 within the last year? Possible illegals can claim, blimey, thats what you call failed immigration.
Ultra Posted 16 July 2009 Posted 16 July 2009 We have controlled immigration, and it doesn't prevent illegal immigration.Nobody knows how many illegal immigrants are in the UK. Only those seeking, or have been granted asylum or leave to remain are allowed to claim benefits. Including dependents, there were30k applications last year. 70% were refused. As a percentage, it's negligible. This. In the absence of any source to suggest otherwise, we must assume that the figure of "1 million" has been randomly plucked from the air.
ob1kanobe0 Posted 16 July 2009 Posted 16 July 2009 Semantics, my dear. These Isles have been subject to immigration for centuries.I haven't felt the need to delete or tell anyone off yet, and you can still post So 300 years is correct then? Is it mass immigration if the people coming here, are us? effectively. Which was better, the Anglo Saxons coming here and creating England, therefore in the process the English race as a people, or alien immigration on the scale we see today since 1948? Are you saying people can call you an idiot and moron at will?
Guest Posted 16 July 2009 Posted 16 July 2009 controlled immigration prevents illegal immigration.Didn't a government official state 600,000 within the last year? Possible illegals can claim, blimey, thats what you call failed immigration. If you mske something unattainable, it becomes more attractive. Therefore, the harder you make it to get into the UK, the more risks people will take to get in. You claim that there are significant numbers of illegals here, and we do have controlled immigration already, so it's clear that it doesn't work, even if the controls are not the controls that the general public feel ought to be in place. The harder you make it, the more incentive there is not to come here legitimately, if you get my drift. So 300 years is correct then? Is it mass immigration if the people coming here, are us? effectively. Which was better, the Anglo Saxons coming here and creating England, therefore in the process the English race as a people, or alien immigration on the scale we see today since 1948?Are you saying people can call you an idiot and moron at will? The point is that there is no such thing as "the English". We are made up of many different European nationalities. Much of our culture comes from the variety of peoples who have come to these isles over the years. This is what makes Britain what it is. But that's another argument. I have been called a lot worse......
ob1kanobe0 Posted 16 July 2009 Posted 16 July 2009 If you mske something unattainable, it becomes more attractive. Therefore, the harder you make it to get into the UK, the more risks people will take to get in. You claim that there are significant numbers of illegals here, and we do have controlled immigration already, so it's clear that it doesn't work, even if the controls are not the controls that the general public feel ought to be in place. The harder you make it, the more incentive there is not to come here legitimately, if you get my drift.The point is that there is no such thing as "the English". We are made up of many different European nationalities. Much of our culture comes from the variety of peoples who have come to these isles over the years. This is what makes Britain what it is. But that's another argument. I have been called a lot worse...... Your first paragrahp explains exactly why Mr griffin's example is a good suggestion. What do you do to a dog that wont let go? What do we do to people who persistantly break the law? Should we let the dog keep biting, let the people keep robbing. So you don't believe theres any nationality on earth? What do you describe yourself as? Much of your culture is from 1400 years ago? So calling you a moronic idiot is ok?
Fosse Boy Posted 16 July 2009 Posted 16 July 2009 Immigrant neighbor keeping you up at night?Immigrant neighbor shagging your daughter? No need to worry. Here at JLB credit, we are happy to help finance your immigrant extermination. We have three plans available. The BNP finance plan. The blame it on whitey plan. The Immigrant is taking my job plan. Contact us for your immigrant needs. A.Johnson I'm not sure I'm comfortable dealing with you lot. By which I mean guys like you, who are French...
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 16 July 2009 Posted 16 July 2009 Anyone who thinks that no illegal immigrants are claiming benefit is barking mad. We have had a number of cases brought to light at local level where I live, and there must be thousands more doing the same all over the country!
Dr The Singh Posted 17 July 2009 Posted 17 July 2009 A British passport is an EU passport. I do know that Lisa!! Just to clarify my cousins in Italy are different to the one that has just called his mum over and has just called his siter in law over. Just to add, his mum is now calling her sisters and brothers over, one is quite ill, and she is calling her over on a visitor VISA, and then getting her treated on the NHS under her name!!!
Hullfox Posted 17 July 2009 Posted 17 July 2009 I have only two points to make on the subject. Firstly, I would not worry too much about immigrants trying to come over here trying to make a better life for themselves. If people contribute to society we should welcome them. If they are not looking to contribute then they should not be welcome, but nor should the generations of our own population who are sponging fookers. I'd love to know what percentage of our great indigenous people never work. Secondly, if Mr Griffin gets his way and the boats are sunk. Do the dinghies offered to get the people back to shore also get sunk? If so, i'm opening a dinghy repair business.
Tabou Posted 17 July 2009 Posted 17 July 2009 I would like to put a point to BlabyFox and the like. Why is it, that non-english-speaking, unqualified immigrants are able to do better in interviews than 'Native White People', when on the topic of them "Taking Our Jobs". Ooooooooooooooohhhhhh thats a question.
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