Sheffield United Player Ratings

[Guest Mee-9]

Ridiculous - Another classic example of someone rating a player obviously because THEY JUST DON'T LIKE THEM or THEY LIKE THEM, not on there performance. Neilson was not the best player but he certainly was solid and well worth more than a two.

COME ON PLEASE START TO VOTE AS IT WAS, NOT AS YOU WISH IT HAD BEEN.

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Were you watching the game, Or slating everything Howard did. Howard played well. I suppose you haven't seen the way Howard plays, he work's his backside off, sometimes he's poor, but he's always there winning free-kicks, creating play, flicking the ball on. Don't get me wrong, he isn't the most skillful players, and many people would rather see the pace of Waghorn upfront. But I think his last two performances have been good, especially against Sheffield Wednesday.

[Lillehamring]

AT THE GAME

If some fans can give Howard a 7 or over for yesterdays performance, which simply was awful, then clearly they are deluded. As soon as he held the ball up he lost it. One good flick on, which was helped towards goal by a Sheff Utd defender and one good through ball to an exceptional Dyer.

Howard is so far off the pace now it is worrying.

The defence played well considering and McGivern had one of his best games in the shirt, which was not hard really considering his prior form.

was begining to think it was just me

[Lillehamring]

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Were you watching the game, Or slating everything Howard did. Howard played well. I suppose you haven't seen the way Howard plays, he work's his backside off, sometimes he's poor, but he's always there winning free-kicks, creating play, flicking the ball on. Don't get me wrong, he isn't the most skillful players, and many people would rather see the pace of Waghorn upfront. But I think his last two performances have been good, especially against Sheffield Wednesday.

howard wasn't awful, but he certainly was miles off the pace, most of the good things he did were in the centre circle, meaning that he really struggled to catch up with dyer and fryatt.

his body language when he gave the ball away cheaply from his toes was awful, just shrugged and watched united attack.

this excuse that 'we know he won't score many' is dreadful, he's a centre forward and has one assist and one goal, what ever space he may make for fryatt shouldn't be enough on it's own to guarantee 90 minutes of football. he had 4 easy chances in the 2nd half and only 1 on target, including 1 with the goalie out of action that he put over... and again he could easily have picked up a couple of yellows, i'm sure he gives away more free kicks than he wins

i just would have liked to see kermo come on at 60/70 minutes, just to give united something different to deal with and maybe take some pressure off the young tired defence.

the fact that he had one of his better games today and was still nowhere near the quality of the middle 4 and fryatt, shows that whilst maybe he offers something, he isn't offering enough to this team

[Corky]

At the match

Weale- 7

Neilson- 7

Hobbs- 6

Morrison- 7.5

McGivern- 7

Oakley- 8

Wellens- 8

King- 7

Dyer- 8

Fryatt- 8

Howard- 7

O'Neill- 6

[Guest Mee-9]

howard wasn't awful, but he certainly was miles off the pace, most of the good things he did were in the centre circle, meaning that he really struggled to catch up with dyer and fryatt.

the fact that he had one of his better games today and was still nowhere near the quality of the middle 4 and fryatt, shows that whilst maybe he offers something, he isn't offering enough to this team

He wouldn't of been able to catch Dyer or Fryatt up, we all know he ain't the quickest guy in the team.

It's working though. With Fryatt and Howard upfront, were grinding out results!

[CosbehFox]

AT THE GAME

If some fans can give Howard a 7 or over for yesterdays performance, which simply was awful, then clearly they are deluded. As soon as he held the ball up he lost it. One good flick on, which was helped towards goal by a Sheff Utd defender and one good through ball to an exceptional Dyer.

Howard is so far off the pace now it is worrying.

The defence played well considering and McGivern had one of his best games in the shirt, which was not hard really considering his prior form.

The irony of your post further now...ha ha

[Captain...]

howard wasn't awful, but he certainly was miles off the pace, most of the good things he did were in the centre circle, meaning that he really struggled to catch up with dyer and fryatt.

his body language when he gave the ball away cheaply from his toes was awful, just shrugged and watched united attack.

this excuse that 'we know he won't score many' is dreadful, he's a centre forward and has one assist and one goal, what ever space he may make for fryatt shouldn't be enough on it's own to guarantee 90 minutes of football. he had 4 easy chances in the 2nd half and only 1 on target, including 1 with the goalie out of action that he put over... and again he could easily have picked up a couple of yellows, i'm sure he gives away more free kicks than he wins

i just would have liked to see kermo come on at 60/70 minutes, just to give united something different to deal with and maybe take some pressure off the young tired defence.

the fact that he had one of his better games today and was still nowhere near the quality of the middle 4 and fryatt, shows that whilst maybe he offers something, he isn't offering enough to this team

I agree with what you said, except maybe about his body language/atitude after giving the ball away I didn't notice that myself. What you can't deny is that we have played a lot better since he has come back into the team. Whether it is his ability on the pitch, or his ability to motivate the rest of the team, or maybe the rest of the team think "Oh ****! Old Man Howard is on the pitch we will have to work twice as hard to make up for it", maybe it is purely because we have switched to 4-4-2 and brought back Dyer I don't know, but we are playing better with him in the team.

He seems to bring the best out of Dyer and Fryatt and if we had another winger bombing in to the box on the right then it wouldn't matter that he is too slow to support them. He also gives the defence someone to aim at when things are tight with Fryatt and Waggy up front clearances often came straight back at the defenders.

Yes he's slow, yes he should score more, yes he should have been taken off after 60-65 minutes, but he should definitely start against Donny and keep his place in the team when Waghorn is back until we can find a way to play more effectively without him than with him.

Bear in mind that he didn't start for about 10 games before Wednesday so is probably not match fit, and we have no reserve team for him to keep sharp, I expect he will look sharper if he starts the next few games.

[ACF]

Weale 8- Looked good to me, couple of errors, but quality signing.

Neilson 7 - Throws werent good, but what he did defensively he did well,

Hobbs 7 - Looked fantastic before his injury.

Morrison 8 - GREAT shot to win the corner. Good header, and was solid as a rock in defence.

McGivern 7 - Did well, not OUTSTANDING, but did a fair good job.

Oakley 7.5 - Good game from him tonght, his corners were always a threat.

Dyer 9* - MOTM, looked to cut inside, great work from him tonight. A constant threat,

King 7.5 - Quiet, but what he did, he did very well, apart from THAT incident.

Wellens 8.5- Fantastic passer of the ball. On another day he wouldve been MOTM, but others were just a bit better.

Howard 7.5 - Look okay, silly fouls i thought, but did well.

Fryatt 8.5 - Cracking game. Liked the pressure he put on the defence.

O'Neill 6 - Out of position, young, and only came on because Berner felt his calf twinge at HT. So for limited amount of prep, he played very well in my eyes. Future looks promising.

NP- Tactics worked well, an 8 for him.

Crowd- Always a noise coming heard. 7.

Ref. Great ref I though, 9/10.

[Ultra]

At the game:

Weale - 7

Neilson - 7

Morrison - 8*

Hobbs - 7

McGivern - 7

Oakley - 7

King - 7

Wellens - 7

Dyer - 7

Howard - 7

Fryatt - 7

O'Neil - 5

Gallagher - n/a

[dandannieldanok]

At game:

Weale 6 (A few nervous punches, not sure why they've crept into his game over this last month )

Neilson 6 (Solid enough, did the job required)

Morrison 8 (Grabbed a deserved goal, headed everything at the back, looked very decent)

Hobbs 7 (Was a usual Hobbs performance, we missed him in the 2nd half)

McGivern 7 (Mediocre first half, but was revelation in the 2nd half, good in the air)

Oakley 7 (Generally decent, good effort throughout)

Wellens 7.5 (Went back to basics and kept the ball simple and moving, was always looking forward)

King 6.5 (Just sat in and did a solid job, understated but composed)

Dyer 8 (Had the confidence to run at defenders and attack the penalty area)

Howard 6.5 (A few things didn't quite come off for him but he's a good focal point for the attack)

Fryatt 8 (Classy performance, excellent quality with the ball at his feet)

O'Neill 3 (The less said the better)

Gallagher 0 (Didn't touch the ball )

[Sparky]

At the match

Weale 7

Neilson 6

Morrison 8

Hobbs 6

McGivern 7

Oakley 7

Wellens 7

King 7

Dyer 9

Fryatt 7

Howard 7

O'Neill 5

[davieG]

Quite a few people have picked up on King's error in conceding a corner in the dying minutes of the game, but I haven't seen anyone pick up on Wellen's potentially critical error in the 2nd half, where in our own half with the pitch clear in front of him he turned towards our goal and passed the ball straight to the feet of a Sheff Utd player allowing him to run out our defence.

If people are going to pick out one off individual mistakes as justification for the markings then at least let's have some consistency.

[Guest Mee-9]

Quite a few people have picked up on King's error in conceding a corner in the dying minutes of the game, but I haven't seen anyone pick up on Wellen's potentially critical error in the 2nd half, where in our own half with the pitch clear in front of him he turned towards our goal and passed the ball straight to the feet of a Sheff Utd player allowing him to run out our defence.

If people are going to pick out one off individual mistakes as justification for the markings then at least let's have some consistency.

This.

[lcfc_forever]

At game:

Weale 6 (A few nervous punches, not sure why they've crept into his game over this last month )

Neilson 6 (Solid enough, did the job required)

Morrison 8 (Grabbed a deserved goal, headed everything at the back, looked very decent)

Hobbs 7 (Was a usual Hobbs performance, we missed him in the 2nd half)

McGivern 7 (Mediocre first half, but was revelation in the 2nd half, good in the air)

Oakley 7 (Generally decent, good effort throughout)

Wellens 7.5 (Went back to basics and kept the ball simple and moving, was always looking forward)

King 6.5 (Just sat in and did a solid job, understated but composed)

Dyer 8 (Had the confidence to run at defenders and attack the penalty area)

Howard 6.5 (A few things didn't quite come off for him but he's a good focal point for the attack)

Fryatt 8 (Classy performance, excellent quality with the ball at his feet)

O'Neill 3 (The less said the better)

Gallagher 0 (Didn't touch the ball )

Spot on with these ratings, perhaps with the exception of Weale who I think deserves a 7 based on his second half performance. I saw the game on TV.

[Anish]

Dyer - 8.5 (faded in the second half but he was on fire in the first)

and yet it's you who's bitching about Howard who in case you

didn't notice won tons of balls in the air

At the game

Weale - 7

Neilson - 6

Morro - 8 - Brilliant performance

Hobbs - 7

McGivern - 7 - think that's the best performance I've seen out of him in a city shirt

Oakley - 6.5

King - 6.5

Wellens - 7.5

Dyer - 8 MOM - don't know how you missed his performance anish cos 20,000 others didn't

Howard - 7

Fryatt - 7.5 - some great touches, unfortunate that he had to display great skill on tv with jan coming

up but there we go

O Neill - 5.5 - sadly got beaten quite a lot but I've seen him play before and sure he'll come back better for it

:eek: I did see his performance and gave him an 8.5. And I still maintain that he faded as the game went on cos he ran himself into the ground.

[ob1kanobe0]

weale 7 England's 3rd choice for 2010

neilson 6.8 back to his early season form

morrison 8.3 so close to MOTM, great future

hobbs 6.6

mcgivern 6.3 wheres Berner

oakley 6 oh my, what was he doing in the penalty box first half, why isn't he utilising his talent?

wellens 7

king 6 can someone confirm he was on the pitch

dyer 7.4 on that performance, its difficult to see why he hasn't played more games.

howard 6.5 still some terrible signs of a dustman filling in for a footballer, but better, he looked like he wanted to score for the 2nd game running.

fryatt 9 outstanding, no one can do with a football what matty can, his ability to connect with a football and read the game is a training manual for youngsters. his movement on and off the ball is football beautiful.

[Flynny]

:eek: I did see his performance and gave him an 8.5. And I still maintain that he faded as the game went on cos he ran himself into the ground.

Agree there, he was going strong until about 75 but I remember thinking at the time that I'd have liked to see someone fresh on to track back in front of O'Neill cos he'd knackered himself.

[Captain...]

weale 7 England's 3rd choice for 2010

neilson 6.8 back to his early season form

morrison 8.3 so close to MOTM, great future

hobbs 6.6

mcgivern 6.3 wheres Berner

oakley 6 oh my, what was he doing in the penalty box first half, why isn't he utilising his talent?

wellens 7

king 6 can someone confirm he was on the pitch

dyer 7.4 on that performance, its difficult to see why he hasn't played more games.

howard 6.5 still some terrible signs of a dustman filling in for a footballer, but better, he looked like he wanted to score for the 2nd game running.

fryatt 9 outstanding, no one can do with a football what matty can, his ability to connect with a football and read the game is a training manual for youngsters. his movement on and off the ball is football beautiful.

Yes he was and he played very well, when I have watched games this year, mainly on T.V. I have wondered if King is on the pitch, so yesterday I kept my eye on him, especially in the first half, and I thought he was excellent. He is not showy or particularly distinctive in appearance but he is effective.

When we don't have the ball, he is always working, looking to win the ball then looks to play it quickly and set an attack going, when not winning the ball he is always moving to cover the opponent most likely to recieve the ball, or in a dangerous position rather than closing down the ball when someone else has it covered. Something a few other players could learn from, too often I see 3 or 4 players charging in on the man with the ball and leaving holes that can be exploited with a simple pass.

On the ball he is also strong, looks to get in to space and provide a simple option, again something others could learn from. He is not the best at running with the ball (as demonstrated late in the second half, what was he thinking) and doesn't have blistering pace, so when he gets the ball he looks to pass it quickly and set things moving.

Andy King is a good player, with a good footballing brain, he has a long way to go, he is only young, and if he can start to influence the game more he will be a fantastic player in a few years.

[reynard]

At the game.

Weale 7 One great save and some good catches from crosses. Flapped at corners once or twice and his kicking from hands was indifferent.

Neilson 6 An ok performance but his lack of pace meant we lost momentum going forward and he was largely responsible for their goal with some pathetic defending. Nevertheless he tried hard and defensively, otherwise was ok but no more than that.

Hobbs 6 Good at times but maybe the knock affected him because at other times he was distinctly average. Some of his passing and clearances were very weak.

Morrison 7.5 A good game and a well taken goal. Great effort that led to the corner. Did well in the second half in part of a very inexperienced back line.

McGivern 7.5 I thought this was his best game for us.He won loads of headers, one especially excellent header towards the end of the first half from a dangerous free kick springs to mind. His performance at CB was good. I've not been overlly impressed previously but I'm now thinking we should extend his loan. Maybe he just needs games but there was some quality there today. His future may well be at centre back.

Oakley 7 His whole game is like his corners. Some excellent others poor. I thought he really put in a shift today. One of his better days despite one near disastrous header early on. He tracked back well and did ok going forward.

King 7 Good. He broke things up well and was a lot more involved than usual. For those mentioning his mistake near the end. I was pretty much opposite the goal line and it didn't look as though the whole ball crossed the line. Also there is no way the linesman could have seen from the other side of the pitch as his view was blocked by the posts. I've not seen it on tv so I happy to be proved wrong.

Wellens 7.5 At last he decided to try and keep possession rather than continuosly trying quick flicked passes. There was one really bad pass which nearly gifted them a chance but he was much improved and very unlucky not to score just before half time. Really came into his own in the second half when he was allowed more space.

Dyer 8.5 Exactly what we have needed for ages. Someone with pace prepared to carry the ball from midfield. Tracked back well and denied a goal by a good save. Overall an excellent perfomance. Needs to be like that week in week out.

Howard 7 He was good today. He was consistently marked by two United defenders, one of whom is generally regarded as a thug and the other is said to be on his way to the premiership and frankly with no help from the ref he made them look distinctly average. At this stage in his career he needs the ball played to his chest or his feet and with his back to goal he consistently held the ball up long enough to bring others into play. By occupying their central defenders he allowed the space to open up for Dyer to run into. At the moment he is central to how we play and I can't say that I have seen any other option currently at the club better than him at doing what he does.

Fryatt 8 Some of his play was very good. He has quick feet and showed up their labouring centre halves time and time again. His play with his back to goal with the ball played to his chest has improved a lot since the last time we were in the championship. Well taken penalty.

O'Neill 4 Hard to judge really as he was out of position but he looked completely out of his depth. Needs first team football at a lower level to build up experience.

[ob1kanobe0]

Yes he was and he played very well, when I have watched games this year, mainly on T.V. I have wondered if King is on the pitch, so yesterday I kept my eye on him, especially in the first half, and I thought he was excellent. He is not showy or particularly distinctive in appearance but he is effective.

When we don't have the ball, he is always working, looking to win the ball then looks to play it quickly and set an attack going, when not winning the ball he is always moving to cover the opponent most likely to recieve the ball, or in a dangerous position rather than closing down the ball when someone else has it covered. Something a few other players could learn from, too often I see 3 or 4 players charging in on the man with the ball and leaving holes that can be exploited with a simple pass.

On the ball he is also strong, looks to get in to space and provide a simple option, again something others could learn from. He is not the best at running with the ball (as demonstrated late in the second half, what was he thinking) and doesn't have blistering pace, so when he gets the ball he looks to pass it quickly and set things moving.

Andy King is a good player, with a good footballing brain, he has a long way to go, he is only young, and if he can start to influence the game more he will be a fantastic player in a few years.

Theres all that, and alot of times this season he's been unoticable. btw, are you King's dad?

[Kilworthfox]

At the match

Weale 8 some good saves

Neilson 6 Pfft

Morrison 8 Solid

Hobbs 6 ok

McGivern 8 Best game yet

Oakley 5 very Poor

Wellens 8 No surprise Class act

King 8 Starting to play like Wellens

Dyer 9 Where did that come from, best game I have ever seen him play, deserved ovation

Fryatt 9 Effort & a dive

Howard 7 good battle vs Morgan

O'Neill 5 Fish out of water, hope he enjoyed & learned from the experience

[ob1kanobe0]

Fryatt 9 Effort & a dive

On the tv reply you can see the defender put his foot at fryatt's, although fryatt made it look like a hollywood motion picture, still a pen.

[Kilworthfox]

On the tv reply you can see the defender put his foot at fryatt's, although fryatt made it look like a hollywood motion picture, still a pen.

really :w00t: I was not far from the "dive" and i thought the ref blew his whistle to book Matty, imagine my surprise

[Flynny]

really :w00t: I was not far from the "dive" and i thought the ref blew his whistle to book Matty, imagine my surprise

I saw him get his feet taken from SK1, although I did then think "hang on should I be able to see that from here if it's genuine?"

[Guest]

:eek: I did see his performance and gave him an 8.5. And I still maintain that he faded as the game went on cos he ran himself into the ground.

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apologies, I thought you'd rated him quite low, I only glanced

at it though so I'm probably mistaken