lou Posted 12 February 2010 Posted 12 February 2010 i like over reacting , It’s All Fun & Games Until Someone Gets Napalmed ps and lou , that cat in your piccy ( as well as being dangerously overfed )looks as if it could fall off the chair and hurt itself , try to be more responsible please !! its not my cat thank Gawd! Just googled fat cats and some lovely images appear! Some huuuuuge cats out there!
lcfc_jme Posted 12 February 2010 Posted 12 February 2010 Aye, if people do know the persons responsible or are planning something themselves then you need to have the common sense to keep it quiet.You're probably relatively safe on Foxes Talk but if you slap up some youtube video of yourself setting off some flare and it gets thousands of hits from football fans then don't for one more think it'll never be used to identify someone. Don't necessarily mean the video in this thread as I don't think you could see who deployed it in that. But if any of you are even semi-serious about trying a continuation of this then do mind where you brag about it. Indeed. Like when that footage of them "hooligans" got released and it turns out it was from a film. Nah seriously though, I doubt we'll be seeing this kind of activity again at our games any time soon unfortunately. Was fun, new and unique and whatever, and I'd love to see it more often / become commonplace, but I can't see it happening. 'Specially with the kind of aways we've got coming up... Can't see the stewards at places like Plymouth, Sheff Weds or Derby being as laid-back as the Blackpool ones. Nor the police at Peterborough.
Bellend Sebastian Posted 12 February 2010 Posted 12 February 2010 WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE !!!!!!! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!! I bet people were fainting when that helicopter delivered the Remembrance day wreath
lcfcadam Posted 12 February 2010 Posted 12 February 2010 1. How do you know there wasn't a huge mound of rubbish under this wooden terrace?Because I could see through the gaps in the floor to the grass underneath. 2. The people at Bradford who died in the concourses HAD been in the stand. When the fire started they head to the exits which is what is drilled into you. Fair enough, but in this case the only way out of the temporary stand was forwards, onto the pitch or out sideways. 3. The guys running the course mentioned that the worlds biggest fire escape (the pitch) was right there in front of people but loads didn't use it. In this situation, if a fire started in that temporary stand I can assure you everyone would immediately be heading for the pitch. 4. You were in a temporary stand, do you know for sure it was fire proofed. Moist (from overnight damp weather / heavy fog) wood and steel are hardly fire-central. Plus I severely doubt they'd be allowed to erect a stand at a football ground made out of bloody firewood - it was covered in some kind of thick paint which almost certainly had a level of fireproofing. 5. WATCH THE fooking BRADFORD VIDEO!!!!!! The fire has been going for about a minute (I think) people are standing at the far end of the stand not knowing what is happening, then it spreads very, very quickly. LOOK AT A PICTURE OF THE FOOKIN' STAND AT BLACKPOOL You'll soon notice it's not the same in any respect. 6. You could not possibly get a few hundred over a wall in 30 seconds as people panic and fight each other to get away. The only barrier was the advertising hoardings, which fell over every time someone touched them. I think the problem here is not my limited knowledge of fire, but rather yours of the actual set-up at Blackpool. From the sounds of it - you weren't there, whilst I was, and I can tell you factually that the chances of anyone being injured or killed because of fire in the Bloomfield Road away stand are precisely 0 P.S I'm as bored of this thread as everyone else, but I don't take well to being accused of having "limited knowledge"...
Fosse Boy Posted 12 February 2010 Posted 12 February 2010 Anyone else noticed how all the people in this thread moaning/complaining about H&S were a good 100 miles away from the flare when it was let off?
lcfcadam Posted 12 February 2010 Posted 12 February 2010 Anyone else noticed how all the people in this thread moaning/complaining about H&S were a good 100 miles away from the flare when it was let off? Guessing from his name I'm guessing that hackneyfox was closer to 239 miles away (according to Google Maps)
Guest Bilo Posted 12 February 2010 Posted 12 February 2010 Wasn't that picked up in the enquiry? One of the reasons it spread so quickly was the lack of litter bins etc...If you want to be picky, all-seater will only be fireproof to a point. Steel's hardly the best in fire when it gets going. Just can't believe the hysteria, something a bit different, something a bit unique and it's squashed on. Steel is indestructible in fire, didn't you read the Terrorism thread?
BoneDog Posted 12 February 2010 Posted 12 February 2010 Steel is indestructible in fire, didn't you read the Terrorism thread? Correct-o-mundo. Fire cannot get hot enough to melt steel, scientific fact. It needs 'additives'.
Maybes Posted 12 February 2010 Posted 12 February 2010 Indeed. Like when that footage of them "hooligans" got released and it turns out it was from a film. Nah seriously though, I doubt we'll be seeing this kind of activity again at our games any time soon unfortunately. Was fun, new and unique and whatever, and I'd love to see it more often / become commonplace, but I can't see it happening. 'Specially with the kind of aways we've got coming up... Can't see the stewards at places like Plymouth, Sheff Weds or Derby being as laid-back as the Blackpool ones. Nor the police at Peterborough. I reckon you'd be alright at P.Boro
Guest Bilo Posted 12 February 2010 Posted 12 February 2010 I reckon you'd be alright at P.Boro That terrace would be a bugger to police if it ends up as crowded as it was last season. Just a thought like.........
lcfc_jme Posted 12 February 2010 Posted 12 February 2010 I reckon you'd be alright at P.Boro I have no idea what you're suggesting, Maybes..
Maybes Posted 12 February 2010 Posted 12 February 2010 I have no idea what you're suggesting, Maybes.. You be alright getting a ticket like
lcfc_jme Posted 12 February 2010 Posted 12 February 2010 You be alright getting a ticket like I'd imagine I should be there this time around seeing as I missed it last season. Finally a place where I actually HAVE to stand and support my team! Hopefully it'll be better than last seasons' effort though. But yeah, flares, disgusting. Boo! Hiss!
The Doctor Posted 12 February 2010 Posted 12 February 2010 What i don't get, if flares are so dangerous why in Italy or Turkey have there never been a huge fire ?They take them every game and its looks really cool and adds to the atmosphere. I think you could use flares safely in the english game. Bradford fire i think is going to far, like saying should we never stand because of Hillsborough ? because since the bradford disaster, the stadia building across the entire continent has improved to a point where incidents like bradford have a finite chance of actually occuring, just like the quality of terrace building has improved to a point where the hillsborough disaster has minimal to no chance of re-occuring. People are simply trying to make mountains out of molehills and looking like un-informed, H & S obsessed tools
Guest ttfn Posted 13 February 2010 Posted 13 February 2010 I'm fed up with this thread and won't post again on it if somebody can please explain what was so good about this flare? 'Moment of the season' etc are the sort of comments I've read on here. What about the players on the pitch? Haven't there been better moments in the stands? And as for the H&S implications, that's a minor part of the argument, I appreciate that the health and safety implications are limited (and lmao at the plethora of health and safety knowitalls that have emerged). As I've said before, I think it's pathetic. It's Blackpool v Leicester. It's not a massive continental game that everyone cares about, nor is it a piddling non-league game that nobody cares about. It's the sort of game where having a flare is neither an attempt to show an atmosphere at a game nobody cares about nor is it a flare showing the genuine fierce hostility and passion shown when it is set off in foreign climes. Do the people who thought this was so brilliant think the flare set off in the Arsenal end in the Chelsea v Arsenal game was just as brilliant? Or are they just getting behind our 'great fans'? This has never been about Health and Safety. It's about the fact that there's more to an atmosphere than setting off a flare. It's about 2000 grown men and women, united only by one football club, singing and cheering in unison. What the fook a flare has to do with anything in a football ground I'll never know. And let me just finish by saying this. I have been at football matches when flares have gone off. I was in the United end in the Man United v Juventus Champ League semi in 99 (at OT). The Juventus fans set off a flare. I didn't think it was pathetic. I thought it was cool. I thought 'this is what these fans do, this is their culture'. This is not our footballing culture. Maybe I'm being old fashioned but I don't get the 'fit' of a flare at a mid-table Championship match.
LCFC-ARAB Posted 13 February 2010 Posted 13 February 2010 I'm fed up with this thread and won't post again on it if somebody can please explain what was so good about this flare?'Moment of the season' etc are the sort of comments I've read on here. What about the players on the pitch? Haven't there been better moments in the stands? And as for the H&S implications, that's a minor part of the argument, I appreciate that the health and safety implications are limited (and lmao at the plethora of health and safety knowitalls that have emerged). As I've said before, I think it's pathetic. It's Blackpool v Leicester. It's not a massive continental game that everyone cares about, nor is it a piddling non-league game that nobody cares about. It's the sort of game where having a flare is neither an attempt to show an atmosphere at a game nobody cares about nor is it a flare showing the genuine fierce hostility and passion shown when it is set off in foreign climes. Do the people who thought this was so brilliant think the flare set off in the Arsenal end in the Chelsea v Arsenal game was just as brilliant? Or are they just getting behind our 'great fans'? This has never been about Health and Safety. It's about the fact that there's more to an atmosphere than setting off a flare. It's about 2000 grown men and women, united only by one football club, singing and cheering in unison. What the fook a flare has to do with anything in a football ground I'll never know. And let me just finish by saying this. I have been at football matches when flares have gone off. I was in the United end in the Man United v Juventus Champ League semi in 99 (at OT). The Juventus fans set off a flare. I didn't think it was pathetic. I thought it was cool. I thought 'this is what these fans do, this is their culture'. This is not our footballing culture. Maybe I'm being old fashioned but I don't get the 'fit' of a flare at a mid-table Championship match. Get over it mate. The poll at the top clearly states that the majority of people thought the flare looked good and sorry that blackpool v leicester isnt as important to you as man u juve but to me, it is.
Maybes Posted 13 February 2010 Posted 13 February 2010 As I've said before, I think it's pathetic. It's Blackpool v Leicester. It's not a massive continental game that everyone cares about, Everyone at Bloomfield Road cared about that game, I can assure you!
Tommeh Posted 13 February 2010 Posted 13 February 2010 I'm fed up with this thread and won't post again on it if somebody can please explain what was so good about this flare?'Moment of the season' etc are the sort of comments I've read on here. What about the players on the pitch? Haven't there been better moments in the stands? And as for the H&S implications, that's a minor part of the argument, I appreciate that the health and safety implications are limited (and lmao at the plethora of health and safety knowitalls that have emerged). As I've said before, I think it's pathetic. It's Blackpool v Leicester. It's not a massive continental game that everyone cares about, nor is it a piddling non-league game that nobody cares about. It's the sort of game where having a flare is neither an attempt to show an atmosphere at a game nobody cares about nor is it a flare showing the genuine fierce hostility and passion shown when it is set off in foreign climes. Do the people who thought this was so brilliant think the flare set off in the Arsenal end in the Chelsea v Arsenal game was just as brilliant? Or are they just getting behind our 'great fans'? This has never been about Health and Safety. It's about the fact that there's more to an atmosphere than setting off a flare. It's about 2000 grown men and women, united only by one football club, singing and cheering in unison. What the fook a flare has to do with anything in a football ground I'll never know. And let me just finish by saying this. I have been at football matches when flares have gone off. I was in the United end in the Man United v Juventus Champ League semi in 99 (at OT). The Juventus fans set off a flare. I didn't think it was pathetic. I thought it was cool. I thought 'this is what these fans do, this is their culture'. This is not our footballing culture. Maybe I'm being old fashioned but I don't get the 'fit' of a flare at a mid-table Championship match. As far I can see I was the only one who said "moment of the season" and by that I meant the whole 10 minutes, Dyer's goal, the celebrations, flare and non stop singing after and stand by it too. But then again it was just a pathetic little smalltime firework which was incredibly dangerous and naughty. Sorry for enjoying it.
Guest ttfn Posted 13 February 2010 Posted 13 February 2010 Get over it mate.The poll at the top clearly states that the majority of people thought the flare looked good and sorry that blackpool v leicester isnt as important to you as man u juve but to me, it is. It's as if you've read about 3 words on this thread. I stated earlier that I appreciated that I was in the minority and the point about the United v Juventus game was that it was appropriate within context. Why is Leicester going 2 up at Blackpool objectively worthy of a flare? Give over on the importance of the Blackpool game it was never in dispute. It's all about context. And in the context of a mid-table, second tier Championship match in a country that never has flares, the flare was pathetic. Unless it was ironic. In which case I greatly admire the wit of whoever did it. Everyone at Bloomfield Road cared about that game, I can assure you! I appreciate that was poorly worded. See above, as I'm not disputing the importance of the game to us or the Blackpool fans.
Maybes Posted 13 February 2010 Posted 13 February 2010 I stated earlier that I appreciated that I was in the minority and the point about the United v Juventus game was that it was appropriate within context. Why is Leicester going 2 up at Blackpool objectively worthy of a flare? Give over on the importance of the Blackpool game it was never in dispute. It's all about context. And in the context of a mid-table, second tier Championship match in a country that never has flares, the flare was pathetic. Unless it was ironic. In which case I greatly admire the wit of whoever did it. To be honest I think it was done as more of a laugh. A group of leicester lads on a tour in blackpool. Why not? Thats a reheotorical question by the way.
lcfc_jme Posted 13 February 2010 Posted 13 February 2010 It's as if you've read about 3 words on this thread. I stated earlier that I appreciated that I was in the minority and the point about the United v Juventus game was that it was appropriate within context. Why is Leicester going 2 up at Blackpool objectively worthy of a flare? Give over on the importance of the Blackpool game it was never in dispute. It's all about context. And in the context of a mid-table, second tier Championship match in a country that never has flares, the flare was pathetic. Unless it was ironic. In which case I greatly admire the wit of whoever did it. I appreciate that was poorly worded. See above, as I'm not disputing the importance of the game to us or the Blackpool fans. To be honest, I'm a bit drunk so will probably regret this in the morning, but dear fucking God you are a boring, miserable, self-satisfying bag of shit, aren't you?? Honestly, if you think (and you're one of a small number) that the flare was pathetic, then assess your life and stop following us away from home. We're not the Walkers Stadium at away games, we're a different breed of fan, a different kind of person. If setting off flares adds to the atmosphere like I think it does and stops wankers like you attending, then I think it should be compulsory.
LCFC-ARAB Posted 13 February 2010 Posted 13 February 2010 It's as if you've read about 3 words on this thread. I stated earlier that I appreciated that I was in the minority and the point about the United v Juventus game was that it was appropriate within context. Why is Leicester going 2 up at Blackpool objectively worthy of a flare? Give over on the importance of the Blackpool game it was never in dispute. It's all about context. And in the context of a mid-table, second tier Championship match in a country that never has flares, the flare was pathetic. Unless it was ironic. In which case I greatly admire the wit of whoever did it. I appreciate that was poorly worded. See above, as I'm not disputing the importance of the game to us or the Blackpool fans. This notion is the reaosn why atmospheres at English football games are shit because people like you turn up to a 'mid-table, second tier Championship match' and just expect/want a mild atmopshere because it isn't a champions league semi final or a 'Big four' game maybe if you treated every game you went too like it meant something, like me and many others do anyway because everygame is important to me, then the general atmosphere would be better and people wouldnt think they needed a flare to boost the atmosphere i thought the flare was amazing, and between our second goal and their goal the atmosphere was awesome and i have been at away games after scoring and the atmopshere has been terrible, so i am going to stick my neck out and say the flare did help i dont understand why you are getting so emotional over it to be fair, it was a bit of fun your life must seriously be missing something if you are that anti-anything that isnt part of the english football culture if i could chose between the english football culture and ANY european football culture i know which i would chose hands down and its mostly down to the fact that the majority of english fans are as boring as you
Bakey Posted 13 February 2010 Posted 13 February 2010 It's as if you've read about 3 words on this thread. I stated earlier that I appreciated that I was in the minority and the point about the United v Juventus game was that it was appropriate within context. Why is Leicester going 2 up at Blackpool objectively worthy of a flare? Give over on the importance of the Blackpool game it was never in dispute. It's all about context. And in the context of a mid-table, second tier Championship match in a country that never has flares, the flare was pathetic. Unless it was ironic. In which case I greatly admire the wit of whoever did it. I appreciate that was poorly worded. See above, as I'm not disputing the importance of the game to us or the Blackpool fans. YOU!!! are a cock. lighten up or just fook off.
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