Tony Pine Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 Just making yourself look even more stupid, 'it was only one flare'.Bradford and Kings Cross were almost certainly started by one cigarette, I'd imagine that one flair is equivalent to thousands of fags. Agreed it was an open stand, but do you seriously think that the kid who took the flare along did so in the knowledge that it was. He'd already got the flare with him, he'd have let it off whatever the situation. The comment about the motorway is spot on. i don't agree, massively disproportionate analogy.
lou Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 i don't agree, massively disproportionate analogy. While I understand the sentiments, TP is right the anology is disproportionate.
hackneyfox Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 While I understand the sentiments, TP is right the anology is disproportionate. The analogy is disproportionate because nothing happened. As I said, go ask at the fire station and see what they think. Watch Bradford and the linked fire above and surely anyone can see that wooden structures, pyrotechnics and large crowds do not mix well. I've been on the fire awareness course three times, each time it has been run by a different trainer and each one of them would habe waded straight in and removed that flare immediately. The guy who did it wasn't to know the better, nor are the people who at Bradford who walked to the exits instead of onto the pitch, or the people who go and get there coats and bags from another room when the fire alarm goes at work. If everyone saw the video of Bradford and it was explained to them what happened they'd never be so daft again.
Zingari Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 anyone that thinks lighting a flare anywhere near a crowd isn't dangerous is a fool
lcfc_jme Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 I still think the flare was quality, and still think it'd have looked better if even more had been lit. Meh. Thoroughly looking forward to the next flare display. Oh yes.
lou Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 The analogy is disproportionate because nothing happened.As I said, go ask at the fire station and see what they think. Watch Bradford and the linked fire above and surely anyone can see that wooden structures, pyrotechnics and large crowds do not mix well. I've been on the fire awareness course three times, each time it has been run by a different trainer and each one of them would habe waded straight in and removed that flare immediately. The guy who did it wasn't to know the better, nor are the people who at Bradford who walked to the exits instead of onto the pitch, or the people who go and get there coats and bags from another room when the fire alarm goes at work. If everyone saw the video of Bradford and it was explained to them what happened they'd never be so daft again. No its disproportionate because it would never have happened! It was a different kind of stand! No one could have been trapped like they were at Bradford. If it was the same stand it would have been proportionate!
Fosse Boy Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 If there was any serious chance the flare could have caused mass injury/death I'm sure the police/stewards would have done more about it. They just stood there like lemons for about two minutes.
Maybes Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 Just making yourself look even more stupid, 'it was only one flare'.Bradford and Kings Cross were almost certainly started by one cigarette, I'd imagine that one flair is equivalent to thousands of fags. Agreed it was an open stand, but do you seriously think that the kid who took the flare along did so in the knowledge that it was.He'd already got the flare with him, he'd have let it off whatever the situation. The comment about the motorway is spot on. Well in answer to that the answer is yes.
Dom_Harborough Fox Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 A lot of people like to go to the football, follow their team and have a good laugh in the process. This can be done in many ways and that person who let the flare off on saturday did just that. I could understand the criticism if they had pissed in someone's face or shat in a pie. It's not even as if the 1600 fans walked away with 3rd degree burns. On too many occasions our away support is spoilt by bores. I actually got told to sit down at Cov this year for joining in with the old stand up if you love Leicester chant, I also recieved a severe tongue lashing for standing up whilst celebrating during the Crewe match at the end of last season. Sometimes it makes me wonder why some people bother going to football. Oh and also, the setting off a single flare was not the decleration by City's fans that they are now in fact a set of anglo-turkish hooligans. quality post
Guest ttfn Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 quality post That was certainly not the point I was making. I just think that if people think that just become some arse sets off a flair it makes a great atmosphere then it's a sad state of affairs. For the record I'm not middle aged, or possibly I am middle aged and in serious denial.
Maybes Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 That was certainly not the point I was making. I just think that if people think that just become some arse sets off a flair it makes a great atmosphere then it's a sad state of affairs.For the record I'm not middle aged, or possibly I am middle aged and in serious denial. Surely it adds to it though?
lcfc_jme Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 Surely it adds to it though? No, because all it means is that you're a greasy wanabe Turkish hooligan who's gona stab opposition fans, shag each others wives and trash other towns. You're a fucking disgrace. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Can't fucking wait for the next flare outing, 'specially if there's blue smoke bombs.
Guest Bilo Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 No, because all it means is that you're a greasy wanabe Turkish hooligan who's gona stab opposition fans, shag each others wives and trash other towns. You're a fucking disgrace. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:Can't fucking wait for the next flare outing, 'specially if there's blue smoke bombs. This is for information purposes only and in no way condones or encourages the use of smoke bombs within a Football League stadium. Setting these off in Football Stadia is illegal. Only use at the paintball.
Bakey Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 This is for information purposes only and in no way condones or encourages the use of smoke bombs within a Football League stadium. Setting these off in Football Stadia is illegal. Only use at the paintball. Getting caught trying to take that in a stadium wouldn't go down too well with the authorities seen as it looks similar to a home made bomb (which it technically is). At least you can prove a flare is actually a flare and not some kind of bomb.
Guest Bilo Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 Getting caught trying to take that in a stadium wouldn't go down too well with the authorities seen as it looks similar to a home made bomb (which it technically is). At least you can prove a flare is actually a flare and not some kind of bomb. Exactly. It's illegal and naughty. In all seriousness, you'd have to be incredibly tight and/or brave to make your own smoke bomb when you can buy them legally in the UK for paintball. Taking a homemade one into a stadium would probably guarantee arrest, whereas a proper one would just be confiscated and you'd be barred from the ground if you were unlucky.
Guest nathan. Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 This is for information purposes only and in no way condones or encourages the use of smoke bombs within a Football League stadium. Setting these off in Football Stadia is illegal. Only use at the paintball. Brilliant if you could actually hold it.
lcfc_jme Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 Exactly.It's illegal and naughty. In all seriousness, you'd have to be incredibly tight and/or brave to make your own smoke bomb when you can buy them legally in the UK for paintball. Taking a homemade one into a stadium would probably guarantee arrest, whereas a proper one would just be confiscated and you'd be barred from the ground if you were unlucky. Readily available and easy to get hold of as well, from what I understand / have been told. Why anybody would make a home-made one is beyond me, not even like paintball ones are expensive, and they last for 30 seconds as well which is cool. EDIT: Not that I've researched it or am planning it or anything.
LCFC-ARAB Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 http://www.enolagaye.com/large-smoke-grena...-smoke-grenades yes please. someone get it!
Bakey Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 http://www.enolagaye.com/large-smoke-grena...-smoke-grenadesyes please. someone get it! The brochure looks interesting
Guest Bilo Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 http://www.enolagaye.com/large-smoke-grena...-smoke-grenadesyes please. someone get it! BEST APPLICATION: Obscuration – ConfusionAREA OF USAGE: Urban* Almost an encouragement.
lcfc_jme Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 Somebody tells me you can get a box of those blue smoke grenades shipped in really cheaply in only a couple of working days. As I found out through not researching these products, obviously.
LCFC-ARAB Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 Although i'm sure if one was let off, someone would come on here saying the 'confusion' could have caused thousands of people to go mad and rush for the exits and cause a disaster, and then reference a completly irrelevant scenario that happened in New York in 1833
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