Mikey Posted 10 February 2010 Posted 10 February 2010 That was it?That's a fucking sparkler. Not really though is it. Pretty sure its a flare.
Tevez Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 Make every away day count for something memorable. And they did.
Kilworthfox Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 Make every away day count for something memorable. And they did. Great post mate
Guest Bilo Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 Let's hope the flares make their merry way to Plymouth, though I'm fairly certain their stewards will be aware of Blackpool and be all over us like a cheap suit.
Finnegan Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 Join the facebook group City Vs Poznan Great opportunity to wear my Lech shirt and get shanked by some Legia fan on Narborough Rd. Grand.
Fosse Boy Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 Loving the Steau Bucharest fan commenting on the youtube vid.
Kilworthfox Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 Great opportunity to wear my Lech shirt and get shanked by some Legia fan on Narborough Rd. Grand. Just join it u miserable tw@t! Like it's ever gonna happen
Alexikokopops Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 Inclined to agree, there's non-league clubs that do this every game and it's our fvcking moment of the season?! It's was really good to see and fair fvcking play to whoever risked the plod's long arm to get it done but maybe should be left for what it was. The inevitable 6 page thread of middle-aged killjoys bitching about it, lads ridiculously over-exaggerating how impressive it was and people baiting up the geezer involved is probably gunna take the shine off it. Aaaaaaaaaah, sense. Couldn't we have locked the thread after this?
Finnegan Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 Just join it u miserable tw@t! Like it's ever gonna happen I was joking you nob.
Manwell Pablo Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 We have the best behaved fans in the world IMO just look at the arrests made, barely any despite the premiership having around the highest attendances in the world.Of course your going to have the odd idiot but why punish the 99.99% well behaved fans? Its one thing to have health and safety its another to enforce those rules with no common sense. Any plan to abolish segregation (sp) in football will be thrown out, especially after last week, and rightly so.
hackneyfox Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 Yes it all looked very nice! BUT Did you know that the stand you were in was wooden? Have you ever seen videos of Bradford? Seriously try and watch the video, see how quickly the fire spreads from one end of the stand to another (quicker than you can run). See the burning man walk out of the side and collapse. You won't think it so clever and exciting afterwards.
StanSP Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 Yes it all looked very nice!BUT Did you know that the stand you were in was wooden? Have you ever seen videos of Bradford? Seriously try and watch the video, see how quickly the fire spreads from one end of the stand to another (quicker than you can run). See the burning man walk out of the side and collapse. You won't think it so clever and exciting afterwards. Didn't happen though did it?
Manwell Pablo Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 Didn't happen though did it? Thats hardly the point. Was on the fence before hand, If you were in a wooden stand then I'm sorry, that was a moronic thing to do.
hackneyfox Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 Didn't happen though did it? Probably the most stupid reply I have ever seen on this board.
lcfcadam Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 Yes it all looked very nice!BUT Did you know that the stand you were in was wooden? Have you ever seen videos of Bradford? Seriously try and watch the video, see how quickly the fire spreads from one end of the stand to another (quicker than you can run). See the burning man walk out of the side and collapse. You won't think it so clever and exciting afterwards. Think it through before you make this comparison. Bradford was a catastrophe because there was a huge mountain of dry rubbish under an old-fashioned wooden stand. Most of the problems were because of people trying to escape from the burning concourse underneath, not the people who were already in the stand who could fairly easily get to safety on the pitch. At Blackpool we were on an open piece of temporary stand which will have been fireproofed somehow anyway, plus even if it did catch, it would take about 30 seconds to get every fan onto the pitch away from danger. There was ZERO chance of that flare leading to a Bradford-like situation, and it's stupid to suggest any similarity.
hackneyfox Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 Think it through before you make this comparison.Bradford was a catastrophe because there was a huge mountain of dry rubbish under an old-fashioned wooden stand. Most of the problems were because of people trying to escape from the burning concourse underneath, not the people who were already in the stand who could fairly easily get to safety on the pitch. At Blackpool we were on an open piece of temporary stand which will have been fireproofed somehow anyway, plus even if it did catch, it would take about 30 seconds to get every fan onto the pitch away from danger. There was ZERO chance of that flare leading to a Bradford-like situation, and it's stupid to suggest any similarity. Unfortunately you only have limited knowledge of this. I don't, I've been on fire awareness courses where it was covered in depth. 1. How do you know there wasn't a huge mound of rubbish under this wooden terrace? 2. The people at Bradford who died in the concourses HAD been in the stand. When the fire started they head to the exits which is what is drilled into you. 3. The guys running the course mentioned that the worlds biggest fire escape (the pitch) was right there in front of people but loads didn't use it. 4. You were in a temporary stand, do you know for sure it was fire proofed. 5. WATCH THE fooking BRADFORD VIDEO!!!!!! The fire has been going for about a minute (I think) people are standing at the far end of the stand not knowing what is happening, then it spreads very, very quickly. 6. You could not possibly get a few hundred over a wall in 30 seconds as people panic and fight each other to get away. The point of H&S is not to just ensure that you can deal with an accident but to ensure that the chances of an accident happening are as low as possible. Watch the video, go and ask your local fire brigade if letting off a flare in a wooden structure is a good idea. It looked nice but as MP said 'it was moronic'. Edited to mention that a police officer at the far end from the fire also went up in flames. The video is truly horrifying and anyone who watches it would punch the lights out of the next person they saw with a flare.
Finnegan Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 Didn't happen though did it? It isn't on youtube but I challenge you to sit and watch the entire television footage of the first ten minutes of the Bradford City fire and not have at least some regret for being that blasé about it. I'm not against the whole flare thing, I certainly don't want to be tossed in with the boring fuddy-duddies having a moan. Anything that makes the atmosphere a little better is definitely welcome. But pyrotechnics in flammable environments? Always retarded. I had to watch the following, in full, at some retarded health and safety lecture a few weeks ago and while I'm not going to sit and claim to have been emotionally scarred by it or anything, I'm also not likely to forget it in a hurry.
lou Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 It was an open stand - I was there and it just doesnt compare to the stand at Bradford at all. I dont see how anyone could have been trapped in the stand at Blackpool. I saw the Bradford fire live on TV so am far from blase about it. I'll never forget what I saw. The lads constantly smoking weed a few feet behind us were more of a fire risk than this flare Id have thought.
StanSP Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 I have watched it a few times before. Yeah it was a disastrous catastrophe, and I genuinely feel for all those who were involved or caught up in it. But it didn't happen at the Blackpool match did it? That was only one flare. I'm not being so blasé about it. It's all ifs and buts at the end of the day. There's countless scenarios that could have happened at Blackpool, but they didn't.
Finnegan Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 It was an open stand - I was there and it just doesnt compare to the stand at Bradford at all. I dont see how anyone could have been trapped in the stand at Blackpool. I saw the Bradford fire live on TV so am far from blase about it. I'll never forget what I saw. The lads constantly smoking weed a few feet behind us were more of a fire risk than this flare Id have thought. Not taking particular exception to the flare, I wasn't there and didn't see the stand you were on. Just thought FoxForever's reply was a little immature and I know he's not a bad lad, just needs to stop and think sometimes before coming out with silly retorts like that. If I go playing on a motorway and manage to not get hit it doesn't make it a great idea.
StanSP Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 Not taking particular exception to the flare, I wasn't there and didn't see the stand you were on. Just thought FoxForever's reply was a little immature and I know he's not a bad lad, just needs to stop and think sometimes before coming out with silly retorts like that. If I go playing on a motorway and manage to not get hit it doesn't make it a great idea. Apologies. Could have made my point a bit more maturely. And that's just lucky
hackneyfox Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 I have watched it a few times before.Yeah it was a disastrous catastrophe, and I genuinely feel for all those who were involved or caught up in it. But it didn't happen at the Blackpool match did it? That was only one flare. I'm not being so blasé about it. It's all ifs and buts at the end of the day. There's countless scenarios that could have happened at Blackpool, but they didn't. Just making yourself look even more stupid, 'it was only one flare'. Bradford and Kings Cross were almost certainly started by one cigarette, I'd imagine that one flair is equivalent to thousands of fags. Agreed it was an open stand, but do you seriously think that the kid who took the flare along did so in the knowledge that it was. He'd already got the flare with him, he'd have let it off whatever the situation. The comment about the motorway is spot on.
Alexikokopops Posted 11 February 2010 Posted 11 February 2010 I have watched it a few times before.Yeah it was a disastrous catastrophe, and I genuinely feel for all those who were involved or caught up in it. But it didn't happen at the Blackpool match did it? That was only one flare. I'm not being so blasé about it. It's all ifs and buts at the end of the day. There's countless scenarios that could have happened at Blackpool, but they didn't. Wasn't the Bradford fire started by only one cigarette? It's not like someone was flambéing a steak on the sly.
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