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The General Election - Who Are You Voting For?

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No but theres not enough people on the borders. Did you not know about the border cuts made when Thatcher was in charge ?.. Due to sheer volumes of traffic in ferry ports they only check something like 1 in 4 ?

We live on a fucking island! lol

Posted

First time voter, I went Tories.

Same, purely because I dislike them the least.

There's a massive anti-Tory bangwagon going around with people of our age, I don't actually think most of them have a clue what they're on about.

Posted

Yeah and ? Shall i call it the coast then instead of the border ? .. Anway I don't know why people seem to defend the border force and illegals entering and using your money.

No, my point was that sea borders are much more difficult to patrol than land borders. And the only illegals using my money are the 16 year old Albanian girls who hang around on street corners after dark.

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No, my point was that sea borders are much more difficult to patrol than land borders. And the only illegals using my money are the 16 year old Albanian girls who hang around on street corners after dark.

Sorry, obviously i mis-interpreted that then :P .. I can see your point but unless they are illegally employed where do you think they get money from to live ?

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Same, purely because I dislike them the least.

There's a massive anti-Tory bangwagon going around with people of our age, I don't actually think most of them have a clue what they're on about.

lol

That may be true, but they've still got the right idea. We're going to graduate midway through the Tory term. You'll realise then that we'll be even more fvcked for a job than we would have been under another four/five years of Gordy.

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Same, purely because I dislike them the least.

There's a massive anti-Tory bangwagon going around with people of our age, I don't actually think most of them have a clue what they're on about.

Yeah, I have noticed that too.

Won't lie, I am no politics expert, infact I am far from it.

I have taken a genuine interest in this election, watched all the debates, read the manifestos for the main three and watched tv programmes I wouldn't have dreamt of watching 6 months ago.

I believe my vote will benefit me as a person and I guess that's why you vote, really?

Posted

Sorry, obviously i mis-interpreted that then :P .. I can see your point but unless they are illegally employed where do you think they get money from to live ?

Well they can't get benefits off the state if they're illegal can they? Otherwise they'd get detected. Hence the organised crime/child trafficking etc.

An amnesty would do a lot to cut the whole criminal element out of illegal immigration, much in the same way that legalising drugs would do. Further restriction just gives more power to gangsters, look at Prohibition in the States.

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Well they can't get benefits off the state if they're illegal can they? Otherwise they'd get detected. Hence the organised crime/child trafficking etc.

An amnesty would do a lot to cut the whole criminal element out of illegal immigration, much in the same way that legalising drugs would do. Further restriction just gives more power to gangsters, look at Prohibition in the States.

Fair and true points you made there. But still, more could be done.

Although I am banging on about the immigration issue, I say Conservatives because Cameron SEEMS to be a no nonsense kinda guy who wants the country back to work.

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lol

That may be true, but they've still got the right idea. We're going to graduate midway through the Tory term. You'll realise then that we'll be even more fvcked for a job than we would have been under another four/five years of Gordy.

Or perhaps with the Tories policies for new businesses there'll be more jobs with smaller private firms?

Only playing Devil's Advocate for the moment.

As has been said there's lots of negativity about each of the parties but i wonder how long people can still hold on to opinions from previous administrations for? I completely understand your concern but for some people who are too young to remember the last Conservative government (and to some degree that includes me because since voting age for me there's been a Labour government), can you really tout the 'same old Tories' mantra?

Of course people can't completely put their experience to one side but surely voting should come down to which party best suits your ideals going forward for the country?

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Fair and true points you made there. But still, more could be done.

Although I am banging on about the immigration issue, I say Conservatives because Cameron SEEMS to be a no nonsense kinda guy who wants the country back to work.

All style no substance - Blair II in the making (although I don't know where Dave could invade)

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Dont see owt wrong in that :giggle: . Look they all as bad as each other in different ways they all promise the earth , Lib dems are gonna win it but they planning on joining the euro i dont want that ! so does that mean our money will be used to help countrys like Greece and Portugal who have been wasting money and got themselfs in the shit.

You really have no idea.

Do you know Nick Griffin doesn't believe the Holocaust happened?

Anyway, first time voter, voted Tory.

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Or perhaps with the Tories policies for new businesses there'll be more jobs with smaller private firms?

Only playing Devil's Advocate for the moment.

As has been said there's lots of negativity about each of the parties but i wonder how long people can still hold on to opinions from previous administrations for? I completely understand your concern but for some people who are too young to remember the last Conservative government (and to some degree that includes me because since voting age for me there's been a Labour government), can you really tout the 'same old Tories' mantra?

Of course people can't completely put their experience to one side but surely voting should come down to which party best suits your ideals going forward for the country?

As for new business policies, we'll see. And of course I don't think Labour will manage to significantly reduce unemployment (especially for graduates) in the near future - NI rise and whatnot.

As you quite rightly say, perhaps people shouldn't be so quick to bring up examples of failure from the past, and you should vote with your own benefit in mind. Having said that, when did society become so selfish that you can take an 'I'm alright Jack' stance and not give one about others? :(

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Will Mr Brown please vacate to residence of No.10 Downing Street.

Voted Conservatives in the end, I really wasn't sure - There all going to promise us the world and deliver nothing anyway - not quite sure why I even bother voting, so I have a reason to moan I spose :giggle:

All up till today I was going to vote Lib Dems, but then read from a few sources they plan to increase (:blink:) immigration, join the euro, and the main factor that really put me off voting Lib Dems is the fact there would be a strong posibility Labour would still have a hold - I wouldn't go as far as saying I want anyone in aslong as it's not Labour but I'll go as far as saying there are many partys I want in aslong as it's not Labour and there sweaty sock leader.

The factor that puts me of who I have voted for is that I read they will force people out of work to do jobs they don't want to do - For the dole dossers I agree this should happen, but where do you draw the line and who do you decide who's a dole dosser and who's not - For me I want a job in what i'd trained for and a job I have done albeit so far a short career, the only idea I can come up with is people who have just left school and are on the dole force them to do any job, people who have worked since they left school/for a certain amount of year in something they have trained to do let them wait for a certain amount of time to find a job they are suited too, that and the fact Conservatives are abit posh and stuck up but gotta vote for someone and Labour is ruled out from the very start, Lib Dems is ruled out due to the fact Labour could still be in even if Lib Dems win a majority, and any other party doesn't have much chance of getting Labour out.

Gordon Brown your time is up :fc:

Posted

Looks like a big turn out. I've just got back from the polling station and they were queuing out the door. I don't know what that'll mean for the result though.

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As for new business policies, we'll see. And of course I don't think Labour will manage to significantly reduce unemployment (especially for graduates) in the near future - NI rise and whatnot.

As you quite rightly say, perhaps people shouldn't be so quick to bring up examples of failure from the past, and you should vote with your own benefit in mind. Having said that, when did society become so selfish that you can take an 'I'm alright Jack' stance and not give one about others? :(

That wasn't what I meant by the final bit, I meant people should be voting for the party that they believe will do what's best for the country going forward and obviously your personal ideals will come into play when deciding who that vote is for,

Posted

Looks like a big turn out. I've just got back from the polling station and they were queuing out the door. I don't know what that'll mean for the result though.

Syston? When I went down earlier it was dead.

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Syston? When I went down earlier it was dead.

Whereabouts? We voted at the bowling club.

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Part of the building I was decorating today was being used as a polling station. I've never seen so many zimmer frames in 1 day before.

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Will Mr Brown please vacate to residence of No.10 Downing Street.

Voted Conservatives in the end, I really wasn't sure - There all going to promise us the world and deliver nothing anyway - not quite sure why I even bother voting, so I have a reason to moan I spose :giggle:

All up till today I was going to vote Lib Dems, but then read from a few sources they plan to increase (:blink:) immigration, join the euro, and the main factor that really put me off voting Lib Dems is the fact there would be a strong posibility Labour would still have a hold - I wouldn't go as far as saying I want anyone in aslong as it's not Labour but I'll go as far as saying there are many partys I want in aslong as it's not Labour and there sweaty sock leader.

The factor that puts me of who I have voted for is that I read they will force people out of work to do jobs they don't want to do - For the dole dossers I agree this should happen, but where do you draw the line and who do you decide who's a dole dosser and who's not - For me I want a job in what i'd trained for and a job I have done albeit so far a short career, the only idea I can come up with is people who have just left school and are on the dole force them to do any job, people who have worked since they left school/for a certain amount of year in something they have trained to do let them wait for a certain amount of time to find a job they are suited too, that and the fact Conservatives are abit posh and stuck up but gotta vote for someone and Labour is ruled out from the very start, Lib Dems is ruled out due to the fact Labour could still be in even if Lib Dems win a majority, and any other party doesn't have much chance of getting Labour out.

Gordon Brown your time is up :fc:

Nothing like a racist insult aye :rolleyes:

.........and you may want to look up David Cameron's background before you decide that you don't want a "sweaty jock" in number 10!

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