The General Election - Who Are You Voting For?

[Guest]

I would like to ask Mr Ginola if he means Canterbury University, NZ, or does he mean the University of Kent, Canterbury campus?

[Webbo]

I would like to ask Mr Ginola if he means Canterbury University, NZ, or does he mean the University of Kent, Canterbury campus?

By the suddenness of his departure I can only guess he's been banned.

[Guest]

By the suddenness of his departure I can only guess he's been banned.

It wasn't me, I was looking forward to having some fun.

[Nick]

If there ever was a time to say democracy doesn't work, this is it!!

Great post.

Truth is : NOTHING WORKS.

'Democracy' as titled and methodology of voting for it, is simply the most contemporary rule of governance that creates a regulated and sustainable peace.

(though to be fair, indoctrination and notions of freedom remain ever present as a narrative - as with any imposition of governance)

On paper, communism is genius...... problem is - it just doesn't work.

Democracy balances marginalised voices, though the panel of influential decision making is still governed by Simon Cowell's investment interests

Government is the same business. The same set of figures simply passed to the next management team who must choose which sections of society to rip-off and exploit and which to reward............ and represent that in the media in the most beneficial light.

If government lasted more than the 4-5 years, potentially a party could plan for the long term future....... but it doesn't - we just vote for the next greedy fix of daft solutions and promises.

The politicians aren't wankers......

We are.

[davieG]

Great post.

Truth is : NOTHING WORKS.

'Democracy' as titled and methodology of voting for it, is simply the most contemporary rule of governance that creates a regulated and sustainable peace.

(though to be fair, indoctrination and notions of freedom remain ever present as a narrative - as with any imposition of governance)

On paper, communism is genius...... problem is - it just doesn't work.

Democracy balances marginalised voices, though the panel of influential decision making is still governed by Simon Cowell's investment interests

Government is the same business. The same set of figures simply passed to the next management team who must choose which sections of society to rip-off and exploit and which to reward............ and represent that in the media in the most beneficial light.

If government lasted more than the 4-5 years, potentially a party could plan for the long term future....... but it doesn't - we just vote for the next greedy fix of daft solutions and promises.

The politicians aren't wankers......

We are.

Not me I tend to not vote anymore and before someone says therefore I have no right to criticise I have every right, by not voting I'm show my dissatisfaction with the current system and the candidates and as a consequence because I am not guilty of voting any of the self serving riff raff in I can criticise them all I want.

[Nick]

Not me I tend to not vote anymore and before someone says therefore I have no right to criticise I have every right, by not voting I'm show my dissatisfaction with the current system and the candidates and as a consequence because I am not guilty of voting any of the self serving riff raff in I can criticise them all I want.

Agreed , there is not a party out there for me - I have never voted in my life.

[Guest Bilo]

Democracy would only work if the general populace were intelligent enough to make it work.

If the electorate generally read party manifestos and got a proper idea of what each party wanted to do if elected, we'd probably get the government that was right for our country most of the time. Unfortunately, as Winston Churchill once said, the best argument against democracy is a chat with the average voter. In desperate times, people make the strangest decisions.

That average voter will never log onto each party's website to educate themselves about the intentions of each party, they won't watch the televised debates and they won't buy the quality press to gain an intelligent balanced view. They'd rather buy the Sun and have their piecemeal political commentary sandwiched between the Page 3 girl's tits and the latest celebrity news, with a side of a story about Stockport's fattest man. They don't have the intellect to make as important a decision as who will govern this country and probably don't care enough to make the decision.

How did Thatcher's government win the 1983 election after four years of failure? The jingoism of the tabloid press during the Falklands War swayed the electorate. Had the Falklands War never happened, we'd have reflected on the recent death of Michael Foot as the passing of Britain's last socialist PM. How did Labour win in 2005 after launching an illegal war only two years earlier? A combination of incompetent opposition and the bizarre tabloid logic of 'they're shit but let's give em another crack.'

It really is a sad case of affairs because the chances are that the electorate will make the wrong decision again. Everyone will decide George Osborne will be a shit chancellor because he was beaten in a debate by a man who's been a proven failure as chancellor and someone who will (sadly) never get the chance to be. That's the other thing, Vince Cable has proven over the last two years that he would make a better chancellor than either Darling or Osborne but will never be such because of the tribalism of party politics. The best man will miss out because he sits in the wrong area of the house.

I'm seriously considering witholding my vote this year. I was all set to vote for the third option of the Lib Dems that's all but invisible in the tabloid press but I can't imagine there'll be much point. We'll still end up with a government that won't represent us but will issue soundbites to pretend they do.

[Daggers]

I'm voting for the candidate with the biggest tits.

[FoxyPV]

Great post.

Truth is : NOTHING WORKS.

'Democracy' as titled and methodology of voting for it, is simply the most contemporary rule of governance that creates a regulated and sustainable peace.

(though to be fair, indoctrination and notions of freedom remain ever present as a narrative - as with any imposition of governance)

On paper, communism is genius...... problem is - it just doesn't work.

Democracy balances marginalised voices, though the panel of influential decision making is still governed by Simon Cowell's investment interests

Government is the same business. The same set of figures simply passed to the next management team who must choose which sections of society to rip-off and exploit and which to reward............ and represent that in the media in the most beneficial light.

If government lasted more than the 4-5 years, potentially a party could plan for the long term future....... but it doesn't - we just vote for the next greedy fix of daft solutions and promises.

The politicians aren't wankers......

We are.

It is a relatively new political ideology - capitalism has been around since the Renaissance so of course it is going to be stronger as it is culturally bred into society. We deem anything other than capitalism as wrong. We are told that liberal capitalism is the best and most coherent/ rational political ideology but as has been shown repeatedly that statement is absolute bollox.

The cases of State capitalism (USSR etc) not working are because of the arms race and unfortunately vast corruption at the highest levels. I will always remember some Russians being interviewed by BBC after 1992 saying that Communism may not have been the best but at least they had something whereas afterwards they had nothing.

Cuba is only in the poverty that it is in beacause of the US trade embargo - no company (i.e state as that's what the all are now) can survive without being able to trade with the rest of the world. They have one of the best healthcare systems in the world as the focus is on prevention rather than cure which is the sensible approach and their education system is second to none.

We are complete wankers because there is an attitude of 'don't mind me jack I'm alright' ,and the vast majority of the population have no social conscience, no personal responsibility and expect someone else to look after them or to do it for them.

[stez]

I'm voting for the candidate with the biggest tits.

[BoneDog]

We don't live in a democracy. Not in any way that relates to the true meaning of the word.

All we do is vote in a new leader on a false manifesto every 4 or 5 years.

And then for the next few years what the people want doesn't even come into it. Then people vote again and say the same as they said 4 years ago, "ooooh maybe things will change this time".

[Daggers]

We don't live in a democracy. Not in any way that relates to the true meaning of the word.

Has this been declared International Day of the Tool?

Look up the definition of the word 'Democracy' then try re-posting.

[BoneDog]

Ok boss

[FoxyPV]

a direct democracy would have been a good alternative when the Iraq war was announced - imagine Tony Blair leading the troops into battle!!

[BoneDog]

a direct democracy would have been a good alternative when the Iraq war was announced - imagine Tony Blair leading the troops into battle!!

If only! Although I think the troops are better off without his incompetence adding to their worries.

If we had a true democracy we wouldn't have even gone to war in Iraq because most of the population didn't want it. But our leaders didn't listen to the peoples view.

[Benji]

If only! Although I think the troops are better off without his incompetence adding to their worries.

If we had a true democracy we wouldn't have even gone to war in Iraq because most of the population didn't want it. But our leaders didn't listen to the peoples view.

The democracy isn't in deciding every single issue as what would effectively be a referendum but in choosing who should have the privilege of making decisions. If they don't represent your views, that's not through failed democracy, it's through failed voting.

[stez]

if i were to vote for someone who did exactly what i wanted, the country would be in a pretty sorry state, so, as benji (so of) said, i vote for who i think will make the best decisions on my behalf.

[purpleronnie]

Points to ponder :

- At least 84 percent – and likely more – of all current UK citizenship applications are from the Third World;

- Fourteen percent of all primary school children do not have English as a mother tongue;

- At least 316 primary schools in England have a large majority of children whose first language is not English;

- Non-indigenous births will soon account for more than half of all the babies born in Britain;

- Over the next twenty five years, immigration will account for forty percent of all new households set up in this country;

- Some 3.7 million legal migrants have entered this country since 1997 – and 2.5 million are from outside the European Union; and

- At least twenty percent of the currently resident population were either born overseas or are descendants of foreign-born parents.

Your point?

[Daggers]

If we had a true democracy

I take it you're having problems getting the definition of 'democracy' on Youtoob tonight - try here

You live in a democracy.

Try a different tact.

[samjohnson]

I'm voting for the candidate with the biggest tits.

Gordon Brown??

(In more ways than one)

[Craig]

I'm voting conservative, because Ultra pisses me off.

[acooling08]

I can't believe anyone can be so STUPID as to vote Labour - just look what they've done you toss pots.

[acooling08]

I suggest that you go and read up on the history of the British Isles, concentrating perhaps on the movement of people throughout the ages. Then come back and tell me from where the indigenous population of the UK comes from.

Thank you.

Ah God this fooking annoys me.

Saxons and vikings invading to claim land and killing everyone occured in an unfair unjust and uncivilised world. People wanted this this stop but could do fook ALL.

Now immigration which is undoubtedly awful for our country is now happening in larger numbers than the above case. It is a lot worse for the country and it CAN be stopped. In a modern society people should realise how unbenificial it is and halt it.

[Webbo]

I'm voting conservative, because Ultra pisses me off.

That's as good a reason as any.

[Guest]

Ah God this fooking annoys me.

Saxons and vikings invading to claim land and killing everyone occured in an unfair unjust and uncivilised world. People wanted this this stop but could do fook ALL.

Now immigration which is undoubtedly awful for our country is now happening in larger numbers than the above case. It is a lot worse for the country and it CAN be stopped. In a modern society people should realise how unbenificial it is and halt it.

Oh my, did you really write that?