The General Election - Who Are You Voting For?

[FoxyPV]

Ah God this fooking annoys me.

Saxons and vikings invading to claim land and killing everyone occured in an unfair unjust and uncivilised world. People wanted this this stop but could do fook ALL.

Now immigration which is undoubtedly awful for our country is now happening in larger numbers than the above case. It is a lot worse for the country and it CAN be stopped. In a modern society people should realise how unbenificial it is and halt it.

Surely if you read the Daily Mail we are living in exactly this - hoodies, teen mothers, immigrants etc!

Immigration is one of the few things that is keeping the economy semi buoyant as they are willing do the jobs that the current popualtion aren't. You could live in a completely homogenous society which would be fvcking great craic - no tasty, flavoursome food (indian etc), no different influences on music etc.

Why don't we all dress up in beige and have exactly the same look and taste as everyone else?!

How fvcking boring!

[davieG]

Surely if you read the Daily Mail we are living in exactly this - hoodies, teen mothers, immigrants etc!

Immigration is one of the few things that is keeping the economy semi buoyant as they are willing do the jobs that the current popualtion aren't. You could live in a completely homogenous society which would be fvcking great craic - no tasty, flavoursome food (indian etc), no different influences on music etc.

Why don't we all dress up in beige jeans and have exactly the same look and taste as everyone else?!

How fvcking boring!

Not far off that

[Flynny]

Agreed , there is not a party out there for me - I have never voted in my life.

What do you want?

Was all set to vote Lib Dem, but Labour not being liked by rich people any more is swaying me back towards them. 38 business leaders don't want extra tax? Fantastic, fuck 'em.

[Nick]

What do you want?

Was all set to vote Lib Dem, but Labour not being liked by rich people any more is swaying me back towards them. 38 business leaders don't want extra tax? Fantastic, fuck 'em.

Well I'd like to re-structure the way we vote (proportional representation) and the mechanisms within government that prevent change (serving the interests of unsustainable capitalist companies) like 'Whips' and the structure of 'Commons/Lords' and make provision for long term strategy beyond four or five years so we could ensure (or at least make preparations) the long term futures of both society and the planet. Stopping borrowing lots of cash and having wars would also be a positive step but I couldn't trust either of the parties who actually have any actual policies not to do that.

Secondly I'd like FoxyPV to be as single and attractive as she is with her intelligent posting.

I'm hoping for one out of two.

[FoxyPV]

Well I'd like to re-structure the way we vote (proportional representation) and the mechanisms within government that prevent change (serving the interests of unsustainable capitalist companies) like 'Whips' and the structure of 'Commons/Lords' and make provision for long term strategy beyond four or five years so we could ensure (or at least make preparations) the long term futures of both society and the planet. Stopping borrowing lots of cash and having wars would also be a positive step but I couldn't trust either of the parties who actually have any actual policies not to do that.

Secondly I'd like FoxyPV to be as single and attractive as she is with her intelligent posting.

I'm hoping for one out of two.

Flattery will get you everywhere but control yourself - a wee bit of potassium bromide may be needed here

[Webbo]

What do you want?

Was all set to vote Lib Dem, but Labour not being liked by rich people any more is swaying me back towards them. 38 business leaders don't want extra tax? Fantastic, fuck 'em.

It's the workers who will pay the extra National Insurance.

[FoxyPV]

It's the workers who will pay the extra National Insurance.

Do the businesses not have to match the NI payments made by the workers, hence their resistance to the proposal?

[Guest]

Do the businesses not have to match the NI payments made by the workers, hence their resistance to the proposal?

I think they are paying slightly more, hence the objections. Extra outgoings = cost cutting, or something.

[Nick]

Flattery will get you everywhere but control yourself - a wee bit of potassium bromide may be needed here

Canine epilepsy can be a problem.

[breadandcheese]

It is a relatively new political ideology - capitalism has been around since the Renaissance so of course it is going to be stronger as it is culturally bred into society. We deem anything other than capitalism as wrong. We are told that liberal capitalism is the best and most coherent/ rational political ideology but as has been shown repeatedly that statement is absolute bollox.

The cases of State capitalism (USSR etc) not working are because of the arms race and unfortunately vast corruption at the highest levels. I will always remember some Russians being interviewed by BBC after 1992 saying that Communism may not have been the best but at least they had something whereas afterwards they had nothing.

Cuba is only in the poverty that it is in beacause of the US trade embargo - no company (i.e state as that's what the all are now) can survive without being able to trade with the rest of the world. They have one of the best healthcare systems in the world as the focus is on prevention rather than cure which is the sensible approach and their education system is second to none.

We are complete wankers because there is an attitude of 'don't mind me jack I'm alright' ,and the vast majority of the population have no social conscience, no personal responsibility and expect someone else to look after them or to do it for them.

Read Mises's critique and argument as to why Communism could not work. All his criticisms came to pass and the USSR collapsed. Bearing in mind he wrote his argument against communism back in 1922, it was quite foresighted.

[Webbo]

Do the businesses not have to match the NI payments made by the workers, hence their resistance to the proposal?

I'm not sure but I know that every worker earning less than £20k would be £150 p/a worse off.

Even if the employers do have to pay more, making people more expensive to employ will not help lower unemployment.

[Webbo]

Cuba is only in the poverty that it is in beacause of the US trade embargo

Debatable. America is the only major trading nation with an embargo, they can trade with anybody else.

They have one of the best healthcare systems in the world as the focus is on prevention rather than cure which is the sensible approach and their education system is second to none.

They certainly don't suffer any problems with obesity.

[Daggers]

Oh my, did you really write that?

Do I get the impression that you do not take Saxon and Viking invasion seriously?

[orangecity23]

Bloody Vikings, coming here and taking our Mead.

[Daggers]

Bloody Vikings, coming here and taking our Mead.

Not just that - but, thanks to Labour, incidents of Viking-related pillage have gone through the roof in the B23 area.

[Guest]

Do I get the impression that you do not take Saxon and Viking invasion seriously?

I'm afraid they came over here, raided and pillaged my village, and they took my husband.

[BoneDog]

The democracy isn't in deciding every single issue as what would effectively be a referendum but in choosing who should have the privilege of making decisions. If they don't represent your views, that's not through failed democracy, it's through failed voting.

if i were to vote for someone who did exactly what i wanted, the country would be in a pretty sorry state, so, as benji (so of) said, i vote for who i think will make the best decisions on my behalf.

I understand what you are both saying and agree that we can't have it all our own way. On a massive event like going to war, which is as major as it gets, I think that the countries views should come into account. Especially when a massive pack of lies and liars are involved.

[Guest Bilo]

I'm afraid they came over here, raided and pillaged my village, and they took my husband.

I advise you to get out your quill and ink and write a letter to Ye Olde Claimes Direct.

None of this was your fault so you could get up to 50,000 groats compensation. Why, you could buy a longboat for that and invade Daneland!

[somebum]

None of the above. Anybody out there who thinks things will get any better under any other **** needs a serious reality check. They are all full of shite.

[Daggers]

It's the invading Jutes who do my head in - they don't even have a proper country.

Fucking Jutes.

[Flynny]

I'm not sure but I know that every worker earning less than £20k would be £150 p/a worse off.

Even if the employers do have to pay more, making people more expensive to employ will not help lower unemployment.

I think 50% of the cost is met by the employer. It's not great but it's better than taxing people who don't work.

[stez]

the NI rise will put and end to me getting any (more) help at work.

i'd be interested to know how much of my income goes on tax, too, income which has already had two lots of tax taken off.

[C-man]

Grayling

A key Conservative has been recorded suggesting people who run bed and breakfasts in their homes should have the right to reject homosexual guests.

But shadow home secretary Chris Grayling said hotels should not be allowed to discriminate in that way.

Labour and the Lib Dems said the Tories would allow discrimination "to thrive".

Mr Grayling later said he was looking at being "sensitive to the genuinely held principles of faith groups" but was not seeking a change in the law.

The secret recording has been published on the Observer newspaper's website.

The BBC's political correspondent Norman Smith said Mr Grayling's stance "put him at odds with the law".

'Right to decide'

Mr Grayling made his comments after a speech at the Centre for Policy Studies in London on Wednesday.

He was at the think tank to talk on the subject of "A Conservative Home Office."

During the recording, Mr Grayling is heard responding to a question from the audience about civil liberties.

He said: "I think we need to allow people to have their own consciences.

"I personally always took the view that... if you look at the case of 'Should a Christian hotel owner have the right to exclude a gay couple from their hotel?'

"I took the view that if it's a question of somebody who's doing a B&B in their own home, that individual should have the right to decide who does and who doesn't come into their own home.

"If they are running a hotel on the High Street, I really don't think that it is right in this day and age that a gay couple should walk into a hotel and be turned away because they are a gay couple, and I think that is where the dividing line comes."

'Awkward and embarrassing'

Under the Equality Act (Sexual Orientation) Regulations 2007 no-one should be refused goods or services on the grounds of their sexuality.

However in March, Cambridgeshire gay couple Michael Black and John Morgan were turned away from a guest house in Berkshire because the owner said it was against her policy to accommodate same-sex couples.

The BBC's Norman Smith said it was "awkward and embarrassing" for the shadow home secretary, who would have to enforce equality legislation should the Conservatives win the election.

In a statement, Mr Grayling said: "Any suggestion that I am against gay rights is wholly wrong - it is a matter of record that I voted for civil partnerships.

"I also voted in favour of the legislation that prohibited bed and breakfast owners from discriminating against gay people.

"However, this is a difficult area and on Wednesday I made comments which reflected my view that we must be sensitive to the genuinely held principles of faith groups in this country.

"But the law is now clear on this issue, I am happy with it and would not wish to see it changed."

'Private views'

Ben Summerskill, chief executive of the gay rights group Stonewall, told the BBC he was "deeply saddened" by the comments, which would give voters "pause for thought".

He said people were not forced to open their homes as commercial premises and they should abide by the law.

"I don't think anyone, including the Tories, wants to go back to the days where there is a sign outside saying: 'No gays, no blacks, no Irish'," he said.

What was more worrying, he added, was that Mr Grayling said these sorts of things in private but not in public.

Conservative leader David Cameron has apologised for Section 28 - the controversial law brought in by his party in 1988 banning local authorities from portraying homosexuality in a positive light.

And in February, openly gay Tory frontbencher Nick Herbert said there had been a "self-evident" change in his party's attitude to gay people.

But the culture secretary Ben Bradshaw, who is openly gay, told the BBC: "Not only is this displaying the fact that the Conservatives have not really changed on this and many other issues, but here you have the shadow home secretary advocating that people break the law."

Chris Huhne, the Liberal Democrat home affairs spokesman, said "Chris Grayling's plan would allow discrimination to thrive".

Does anyone actually want to govern this country? Muppets.

[FoxyPV]

Canine epilepsy can be a problem.

you put it in your tea

[Nick]

you put it in your tea

*goes to check*

I knew it was a veterinary product used to treat dogs!

Edit: Ah I see - yes you made need some of that, I think you can get some on-line here:

http://www.chemistdirect.co.uk/genitrix-kbr-tablets-325mg-potassium-bromide-_1_19261.html