Make the Move to SK1

[m00nie]

You want to create a superb home atmosphere in the stadium by cramming everyone that sings into one corner? What about when we're attacking the family stand end and everyone that sings is at the other end of the stadium. Sound does not travel well in the Walkers.

Just a thought.

but if enough people are in one place singing you will hear it.. the problem has been so far thats its been in smaller groups spread out so the noise hasnt carried..

also if you have a decent group singing it will encourage more around the ground to sing which will add even more to it.. (i know it shouldnt take that but sometimes it does)

plus once the fb corner has a some more and the noise is louder more will follow suit..

would cost me an extra £10 per game to move as take the kids free in family stand so not really option for me, may try move over for couple of games to show support but good luck all.. hope it comes off as be great to get the atmosphere back at the ground..

(we should have chased the owners up sooner before the new season tickets came up and bombarded them with the away stand location palava.. they seem keen to improve the club so may have listened if enough people contacted them)

[MATLCFC]

Cracking post, will be joining Sk1 from now on, no reason at all why this can't take off!!!

[Floating Fox]

Thought I'd make a rare post for this as it's something I've very passionate about and I seriously believe that the Fosse Boys are the closest and best way forward to having a genuine Fan group detached from the club, giving power back to the fans and a way to turn the Walkers into a fortress (Or just less of library!)

You want to create a superb home atmosphere in the stadium by cramming everyone that sings into one corner? What about when we're attacking the family stand end and everyone that sings is at the other end of the stadium. Sound does not travel well in the Walkers.

Just a thought.

If you had a majority of the singers in one area singing the same song then it would make the overall atmosphere so much better. If you think about it currently you have L1, and then the left & right side of the kop and at times they are all singing different songs. Imagine if you had a couple of hundred fans all in one section (Sk1) that could lead the whole of the kop and the whole of the stadium in unison. That is our dream really.

Believe it or not, Leicester used to be the loudest fans in the country at one point(Filbert Street days) if you ask me this could happen again.

I hope this does take off, however last time something like this happened(N Block) it died a death almost straight away because of the Club. Leicester did really balls up when we moved to the Walkers by not putting the Kop next to the away fans, its all been said before but now is the time for change.

Good post Fosse Boy, I shall be there for one game this season to see how things get on.

N block died a death because of the age of us. We are wiser and have gained a lot of experience from that episode. The situation is different this time as well as we aren't campaigning to 'switch the kop' or anything & the club can't claim people moan at us for swearing in/near the Family stand. We are much more organised as well, the current core of the Fosse Boys have moulded very well and we have a display (Even if small on most occasions) at almost every home game.

It's time we unite as Leicester fans and Reclaim the Kop.

I presume this is a bid in order to piss Mr.Barclay off? Good idea for you lot certainly.

Surprisingly not. We would love nothing more than to get along with the club, but without going into the story, it'd be fair to say we get picked on by him. If we had more people with us, he's less likely to give us hassle as is the case in L1 now..

[Guest bennytwohats]

Great idea - though i suppose to really get it going you'll need to reach out further than this site...

Sadly not renewing my season ticket next year as i'm moving to London but when i pop back for games i shall head for SK1

[Ashley]

N block died a death because of the age of us. We are wiser and have gained a lot of experience from that episode. The situation is different this time as well as we aren't campaigning to 'switch the kop' or anything & the club can't claim people moan at us for swearing in/near the Family stand. We are much more organised as well, the current core of the Fosse Boys have moulded very well and we have a display (Even if small on most occasions) at almost every home game.

It's time we unite as Leicester fans and Reclaim the Kop.

Andy I respect you and your time and effort that you put in to the N Block projject, its a shame the club didn't like the idea and killed it off.

I echo Berts thoughts about if all of our supporters were like Fosse Boy though.

[Guest Bilo]

If all our fans were like Fosse Boy, the stewards and Barclay would crap 'emselves en masse every Saturday.

He's worked hard in setting up and keeping a good little group tight here, hopefully we won't be so little next season eh?

[Houdini Logic]

Sadly I think what you're asking for and what you actually want are two different things here. This is about more than relocating fans, it's about changing their mindset. Even if half of L block decided to move to the Kop all that would be different is that they would sing their 'generic rubbish' from a different location.

I understand why you would want to change certain mindsets but the truth of the matter is that most of the football fans are happy singing the songs they do and their outlook is very different to yours.

There are people in this world that want to revolutionise the way we watch/enjoy football and then there are people in this world that want to get a bit pissed and shout stupid stuff at away fans. Maybe it's tragic, maybe it's not - but I just can't see it changing any time soon, no matter where they are located.

[Guest Bilo]

Sadly I think what you're asking for and what you actually want are two different things here. This is about more than relocating fans, it's about changing their mindset. Even if half of L block decided to move to the Kop all that would be different is that they would sing their 'generic rubbish' from a different location.

I understand why you would want to change certain mindsets but the truth of the matter is that most of the football fans are happy singing the songs they do and their outlook is very different to yours.

There are people in this world that want to revolutionise the way we watch/enjoy football and then there are people in this world that want to get a bit pissed and shout stupid stuff at away fans. Maybe it's tragic, maybe it's not - but I just can't see it changing any time soon, no matter where they are located.

Surely these people won't want to move to SK1, which is about as far away from the visiting fans as you can possibly get anyway?

As I say, there are people who love L1 and want to stay there for their own reasons, all power to them I say but what we're offering is an alternative to those who feel the atmosphere in L and K has dropped off or they just don't enjoy the songs in there any more. We don't even pretend to be about banter with the away fans, we're too far away for that, but what we do offer is a section where you'll hear and sing songs that are pro-Leicester rather than the more confrontational atmosphere found in L1. There's no reason why the two can't co-exist mate.

[Houdini Logic]

Surely these people won't want to move to SK1, which is about as far away from the visiting fans as you can possibly get anyway?

As I say, there are people who love L1 and want to stay there for their own reasons, all power to them I say but what we're offering is an alternative to those who feel the atmosphere in L and K has dropped off or they just don't enjoy the songs in there any more. We don't even pretend to be about banter with the away fans, we're too far away for that, but what we do offer is a section where you'll hear and sing songs that are pro-Leicester rather than the more confrontational atmosphere found in L1. There's no reason why the two can't co-exist mate.

Of course they can co-exist - they do now don't they? So no need to get the 'mate' out - I'm not being confrontational or an arse in any way.

Do you know what I'm not even going to bother, it's not worth it...

[brioldkoppite]

Far from being impressed by the Fosse boys post I think that it demonstrates quite clearly that this debate is all about pride, superiority and status instead of supporting our greatr team.

Lets get real- the 20 or 30 fosse boys want hundreds to move to them in a far corner of the ground. Why dont they bend their necks a bit and move to K block. a lot easier logistically and they could work on L and IMPROVE the situation. If the koppites saw the fosse boys next to L1 then they might move over to create one big section.

It is true fragmentation is our problem and the current campaign may move a few L1 ers to SK1 and thus lower the supoort in L and K more without making any real improvement. overall.

I admire and support the fosse boys concept but it all comes down to whether you want to support our team or grow your own credibility. I want to see the fosse boys and the koppites and L/K together and it is ridiculous the club will not faciliate this.

Logic says if you too support this dream then the majority ( L and K) stay where they are and the rest join them. As I have said before never mind the 'girly' I dont like this song or that song, I dont like their attitude etc etc. Our kop, whereever it is situated, is supposed to be all about support for the City and traditionally we always had many different factions, each of whom started up songs which every one joined in.

All you are doing at the moment is making sure L and K are worse next year and we still will not be able to hear SK1 or the Kop.

Sorry to be so plain but this does my head in

[Guest Bilo]

Of course they can co-exist - they do now don't they? So no need to get the 'mate' out - I'm not being confrontational or an arse in any way.

Do you know what I'm not even going to bother, it's not worth it...

The mate wasn't meant to offend or meant as any kind of affront, I could see your words were constructive so I apologise if I offended you.

[lcfcadam]

Surely these people won't want to move to SK1, which is about as far away from the visiting fans as you can possibly get anyway?

As I say, there are people who love L1 and want to stay there for their own reasons, all power to them I say but what we're offering is an alternative to those who feel the atmosphere in L and K has dropped off or they just don't enjoy the songs in there any more. We don't even pretend to be about banter with the away fans, we're too far away for that, but what we do offer is a section where you'll hear and sing songs that are pro-Leicester rather than the more confrontational atmosphere found in L1. There's no reason why the two can't co-exist mate.

Of course they can co-exist - they do now don't they? So no need to get the 'mate' out - I'm not being confrontational or an arse in any way.

Do you know what I'm not even going to bother, it's not worth it...

that little exchange pretty much sums up Foxestalk for me half the time these days. Would be a bit depressing, if a football forum was worth getting depressed about.

[Houdini Logic]

The mate wasn't meant to offend or meant as any kind of affront, I could see your words were constructive so I apologise if I offended you.

Yeah OK mate

[Guest Bilo]

In my defence, I was writing a 3000 word essay on faith schools and their contribution or lack thereof to social cohesion last night, so I'm not exactly 100% mentally at the minute.

[Houdini Logic]

In my defence, I was writing a 3000 word essay on faith schools and their contribution or lack thereof to social cohesion last night, so I'm not exactly 100% mentally at the minute.

Got to admit my contributions are currently also limited because of the Judge Judy triple bill

[Dom_Harborough Fox]

Far from being impressed by the Fosse boys post I think that it demonstrates quite clearly that this debate is all about pride, superiority and status instead of supporting our greatr team.

Lets get real- the 20 or 30 fosse boys want hundreds to move to them in a far corner of the ground. Why dont they bend their necks a bit and move to K block. a lot easier logistically and they could work on L and IMPROVE the situation. If the koppites saw the fosse boys next to L1 then they might move over to create one big section.

It is true fragmentation is our problem and the current campaign may move a few L1 ers to SK1 and thus lower the supoort in L and K more without making any real improvement. overall.

I admire and support the fosse boys concept but it all comes down to whether you want to support our team or grow your own credibility. I want to see the fosse boys and the koppites and L/K together and it is ridiculous the club will not faciliate this.

Logic says if you too support this dream then the majority ( L and K) stay where they are and the rest join them. As I have said before never mind the 'girly' I dont like this song or that song, I dont like their attitude etc etc. Our kop, whereever it is situated, is supposed to be all about support for the City and traditionally we always had many different factions, each of whom started up songs which every one joined in.

All you are doing at the moment is making sure L and K are worse next year and we still will not be able to hear SK1 or the Kop.

Sorry to be so plain but this does my head in

This is a fair argument & I don't think you are alone in thinking 'why don't the Fosse Boys/singers in the kop move over to L/K instead.'

My answer to that is that the Fosse Boys are happy where we are, just as many in L, K and wherever else are happy where they are. I can understand why people who are happy where they currently sit in the ground would not want to move and why should they? No-one should feel obliged to move from L1 to the kop or the other way around.

What we're saying is that, for those people who aren't happy where they are or fancy a change, why not give SK1 a try? As a few posts on this forum have made clear, some people have not enjoyed the atmosphere in L1 as much this year as in previous years. However, some also think there is no alternative that offers the same opportunities to stand and sing. All we are saying is that SK1 does offer an alternative.

Also, this is not all about dragging numbers over from L/K. The same message goes out to all parts of the ground. There may be people in the family stand, west stand or east stand who are seeking to move somewhere with a bit more atmosphere next year. We shouldn't foget that the whole argument doesn't purely revolve around people going backwards and forwards between the kop & L1.

[tylesta]

Surely these people won't want to move to SK1, which is about as far away from the visiting fans as you can possibly get anyway?

As I say, there are people who love L1 and want to stay there for their own reasons, all power to them I say but what we're offering is an alternative to those who feel the atmosphere in L and K has dropped off or they just don't enjoy the songs in there any more. We don't even pretend to be about banter with the away fans, we're too far away for that, but what we do offer is a section where you'll hear and sing songs that are pro-Leicester rather than the more confrontational atmosphere found in L1. There's no reason why the two can't co-exist mate.

songs like this

credit were credit is due am all for you guys and what you are doing trying to get everyone singing and building the atmosphere up but i don't like this kind of stuff sounds like some albainians on the razzle on bede park.

[Dom_Harborough Fox]

songs like this

credit were credit is due am all for you guys and what you are doing trying to get everyone singing and building the atmosphere up but i don't like this kind of stuff sounds like some albainians on the razzle on bede park.

A lot of the early criticism of the group was that the songs were 'too european' or something along those lines. To be fair, we haven't sung that song in the video since the first couple of games of the season.

In fact, since then we've been singing mainly traditional songs with a few original ones members of the group have thought up every now & then as well.

[m00nie]

Far from being impressed by the Fosse boys post I think that it demonstrates quite clearly that this debate is all about pride, superiority and status instead of supporting our greatr team.

Lets get real- the 20 or 30 fosse boys want hundreds to move to them in a far corner of the ground. Why dont they bend their necks a bit and move to K block. a lot easier logistically and they could work on L and IMPROVE the situation. If the koppites saw the fosse boys next to L1 then they might move over to create one big section.

It is true fragmentation is our problem and the current campaign may move a few L1 ers to SK1 and thus lower the supoort in L and K more without making any real improvement. overall.

I admire and support the fosse boys concept but it all comes down to whether you want to support our team or grow your own credibility. I want to see the fosse boys and the koppites and L/K together and it is ridiculous the club will not faciliate this.

Logic says if you too support this dream then the majority ( L and K) stay where they are and the rest join them. As I have said before never mind the 'girly' I dont like this song or that song, I dont like their attitude etc etc. Our kop, whereever it is situated, is supposed to be all about support for the City and traditionally we always had many different factions, each of whom started up songs which every one joined in.

All you are doing at the moment is making sure L and K are worse next year and we still will not be able to hear SK1 or the Kop.

Sorry to be so plain but this does my head in

thing is L has gone to season tickets and so would be a lot more harder to get your groups of people over there, where as sk1 there is plenty of room and opportunity for people to get there..

also when there are numbers singing you CAN hear the kop and so if the group at sk1 grew it would make a difference.. you would get them louder, which in turn would move on to the kop signing more, which would get more people around the ground signing more also...(people around the ground do join in when the atmosphere is up)

another reason people moving over to sk1 may be the better option also, as at the minute some people will always want to be in L block so even if people move over to sk1 other will replace them thus creating 2 larger areas of vocals..

with regards to the thread just being about the FB pride and superior status i have to totally disagree with you there. ive not always seen eye to eye with the fosse boys on things at first but what i will say is that to me they have shown that they are about supporting the club. ive seen them at home and away matches now and there always give it what they have got.. they sing and try constantly to keep things going.even when the numbers are low or the game isnt great.. this is not the thing someone just out for status would do for so long.

[Guest Bilo]

^^^

Good post, thanks a lot.

I like to think that the accusations of elitism and clique forming are behind us now, as we're making it very clear we have every wish to expand the group and that we'll stand with anyone who wants to stand up and support the team. As Dom says, the overwhelming majority of our songs now are traditional LCFC songs because we do actually have a good song book. You're far more likely to hear Iwan is a Welshman and One Man Went to Burn than a European style song in SK1 nowadays, we want to be inclusive because the best way for us to make friends among the support is to integrate to the support in general and generally give it a shot in the arm when the ground gets quiet.

[leicesterseddon]

Thing is when we first moved to the WS, we didn't have any fragmentation. As far as I could see, most Kopites from Filbert St. moved to the new Kop, I can't remember anyone standing in L/K blocks during our first season in the ground. But it was still shit. Tbh I think the reason people moved will be the same reason why this is unlikely to work - we clearly just don't have that many people who want to stand and sing all game in our home support base, and the same people in the Kop who caused the initial problem will be there for years to come because they'll just renew their seats.

[Guest Bilo]

The good thing about where we are though is that there are many empty seats both in SK1 and G1 so there shouldn't be any problems with people not being able to find a place. We chose that corner for that reason, that and the fact that we won't interfere with anyone who wants to sit down and watch the game.

[m00nie]

why not have a trial game??

pick 1 game before the end of the season and advertise that one game.. what with here, bentleys, facebook ,twiiter word of mouth etc im sure could get a decent crowd to try for just one game..

with the club allowing seat moving etc nowdays it sholdnt be too hard for people to move..

advertise the seat numbers mentioned earlier so people know where to go

if get a big enough crowd can see what the noise is actually like.. may help people realise whats missing and spur them on..

just advertise something like

"like to sing".. "missing the atmosphere" then join us for 1 game to see if we can get the noise back up and raise the roof

[ajthefox]

why not have a trial game??

pick 1 game before the end of the season and advertise that one game.. what with here, bentleys, facebook ,twiiter word of mouth etc im sure could get a decent crowd to try for just one game..

with the club allowing seat moving etc nowdays it sholdnt be too hard for people to move..

advertise the seat numbers mentioned earlier so people know where to go

if get a big enough crowd can see what the noise is actually like.. may help people realise whats missing and spur them on..

just advertise something like

"like to sing".. "missing the atmosphere" then join us for 1 game to see if we can get the noise back up and raise the roof

I've got slightly mixed opinions on the issue as a whole but that aside, doing this is how you should go about it imo.

If you plug one game to death so it's impossible to not know, and get a solid bunch approaching a thousand together in SK1 just for one game to show how good the atmosphere could be, then more people will 'see the light' and make the move.

As it stands, there are too many apathetic people just waiting for it to become popular so they can then join the herd.

You could spend 10 minutes at one of the turnstiles in the kop and you'd realise from clothing alone how many of the younger generation are right lemmings.

Because after all, as 'popular' as Fosse Boys post is, it's hardly telling us anything new is it? It's a push in the right direction that I share a lot of sentiment with but the option to switch has been there since day 1.

As beautiful as this ideal most of us share is, chances are unless numbers are significantly increased at the start of next season with new st holders that it won't ever happen.

[Trav Le Bleu]

I'm going to try sitting in or around the area next match I get to (probably Burnley).

Will be nice to get some proper atmosphere.