Palace Ratings

[shiv]

Weale 5 - Nothing much to do at all, but that goal didn't know if the swerve put him off or he saw it late???

Vitor 6 - Not that good tonight wasn't pushing forward that much, bit negative for me but good second half

Bamba 8 - Solid as a rock didn't do anything wrong, from the get go he was flying in with key tackles

Mee 7 - Solid like Bamba not as good as his fellow centre half but put his foot in when it mattered

Van Aanholt 7 - Not as good as Saturday but he wasn't half bad tonight, improving slowly

Oakley 7 - Poor first half absolute gem in the 2nd but I still prefer Yuki

Wellens 5 - Shocking decision making tonight, passing wasn't that good either

King 5 - Mr lost soul again, god knows where the real King has gone

Gallagher 6 - Liked to get the ball into the box shame nothing came of it, but then subbed

Kamara 6 - Signs of his class that he showed on Saturday, but looked frustrated at times

Yakubu 5 - Pathetic, did nothing again tonight odd good piece of play but more crap than good

Dyer 6 - Good to see him back, when on the ball he troubled Clyne something which Kamara tbh kind of struggled at

Vassell 8 - Gave a real boost to the game very good pace and linking up, just needed a goal really

Howard 6 - Won some headers but other than that just ran around like a looney.

???

[Tommy G]

Oakley - 8. Some great tackles and looked bothered unlike the other Guff on the pitch

Weale - 2

King - 1. Shouldnt play again this season, it's like playing with 10 men.

PVA - 4. Didn't want to get forward.

The rest - 5.5

p.s Vassell looked like he's done a line of coke when he came on, proving to be a good impact sub.

[carterfox90]

Weale - 4 Poor poor goal to let in. Doesnt look confident in his own distribution either.

Vitor - 6 Decent defensively and has decent control. You wont see him getting past players, crossing wasn't brilliant and missed out on a few possible runs but to be fair he has a hard role to fill after Naughtons consistently good performances.

Bamba - 7 He always seems as if he's going to do something hugely calamitous but he never does which is probably a reason he plays well. Not alot got passed him tonight, maybe a bit lucky his last minute challenge was deemed offside as it seemed he didn't get the ball from where I was. Him and Mee were some of the only ones to show urgency towards the end, alhough it got im a booking and slowed the momentum if anything.

Mee - 7.5 Similar to Bamba. Plays on the edge and I feel as if hes going to foul the player but he always comes out with the ball. Whenever anyone did get by he did a good job of pushing them away from goal. Covers Bamba and PVA well aswell.

Pva - 5.5 Not a poor performance as such but I wasn't impressed. Didnt seem to commit to 50-50 balls and his crossing was poor.

Oakley - 8 Motm. Was everywhere today, his tackling was great and he covered the defenders well. His passing was accurate, no hollywood balls but thats not what he's there to do. Well taken goal to top it off.

Wellens - 5.5 okay in the first half but poor in the second. Passing was okay but not as good as normal. Some good runs went unfound.

King - 4 As much as I love him he was poor today. Never looked like scoring or even getting in a postion to score. Didnt think he won a header and was easily bullied off the ball. His passing and touch let him down on most occasions aswell.

Gallagher - 5.5 Like Wellens, average. More poor deliveries than good ones but I thought his positioning and touch was okay.

Yak - 6 I'm 'pro yak' so to speak but he had a poor game tonight. He ran down more balls, which is what everyone seemed to want but in turn had less movement. I would prefer lost causes went unchased if it meant more movement. I still believe he is one of, if not the only player that can create a chance from very little, but the delivery to him has to be good and it wasn't tonight. Theres not a lot he could of done about a ball being whacked at him, either.

Kamara - 6.5 A bit predictable if anything and seemed to want to do too much on his own. Good control but got himself into more trouble than needed by dithering on the ball a little bit. Probably not helped by lack of movement around him.

Subs:

Vassell - 7 What we needed really. Added something new with his tricks but maybe a shot or two wouldn't go amiss. Would also like to see him beat his man more rather than running across the box. I think he plays better with Naughton behind him rather than Vitor becaue Naughton offers a bit more support and creativity.

Howard - 6.5 Nothing really to note. Won a few headers and did what was asked of him really.

Dyer - 5.5 Didn't really touch the ball. Never seems like creating something.

Dissapointed really. We win tonight and we have an advantage over the other chasers. Nothings changed really except we only have 5 games left to play.

agreed apart would give king a 1 at least he managed to put his boots on that was about it should have been subbed instead of kamara & gone all out attack

[MattyFromLE]

Weale - 4 Poor poor goal to let in. Doesnt look confident in his own distribution either.

Vitor - 6 Decent defensively and has decent control. You wont see him getting past players, crossing wasn't brilliant and missed out on a few possible runs but to be fair he has a hard role to fill after Naughtons consistently good performances.

Bamba - 7 He always seems as if he's going to do something hugely calamitous but he never does which is probably a reason he plays well. Not alot got passed him tonight, maybe a bit lucky his last minute challenge was deemed offside as it seemed he didn't get the ball from where I was. Him and Mee were some of the only ones to show urgency towards the end, alhough it got im a booking and slowed the momentum if anything.

Mee - 7.5 Similar to Bamba. Plays on the edge and I feel as if hes going to foul the player but he always comes out with the ball. Whenever anyone did get by he did a good job of pushing them away from goal. Covers Bamba and PVA well aswell.

Pva - 5.5 Not a poor performance as such but I wasn't impressed. Didnt seem to commit to 50-50 balls and his crossing was poor.

Oakley - 8 Motm. Was everywhere today, his tackling was great and he covered the defenders well. His passing was accurate, no hollywood balls but thats not what he's there to do. Well taken goal to top it off.

Wellens - 5.5 okay in the first half but poor in the second. Passing was okay but not as good as normal. Some good runs went unfound.

King - 4 As much as I love him he was poor today. Never looked like scoring or even getting in a postion to score. Didnt think he won a header and was easily bullied off the ball. His passing and touch let him down on most occasions aswell.

Gallagher - 5.5 Like Wellens, average. More poor deliveries than good ones but I thought his positioning and touch was okay.

Yak - 6 I'm 'pro yak' so to speak but he had a poor game tonight. He ran down more balls, which is what everyone seemed to want but in turn had less movement. I would prefer lost causes went unchased if it meant more movement. I still believe he is one of, if not the only player that can create a chance from very little, but the delivery to him has to be good and it wasn't tonight. Theres not a lot he could of done about a ball being whacked at him, either.

Kamara - 6.5 A bit predictable if anything and seemed to want to do too much on his own. Good control but got himself into more trouble than needed by dithering on the ball a little bit. Probably not helped by lack of movement around him.

Subs:

Vassell - 7 What we needed really. Added something new with his tricks but maybe a shot or two wouldn't go amiss. Would also like to see him beat his man more rather than running across the box. I think he plays better with Naughton behind him rather than Vitor becaue Naughton offers a bit more support and creativity.

Howard - 6.5 Nothing really to note. Won a few headers and did what was asked of him really.

Dyer - 5.5 Didn't really touch the ball. Never seems like creating something.

Dissapointed really. We win tonight and we have an advantage over the other chasers. Nothings changed really except we only have 5 games left to play.

I thought we REALLY REALLY missed Naughton last night

[OriginalRobboFOX]

I refuse to blame Weale for last nights draw. Yeah he looks low on confidence but is it any wonder?! Sven dropped him for no reason and we were doing ok, then he gets a recall for no apparent reason, it can't be easy for a player.

However, I can take aim at Vassell. He just looked lost last night when he came on. He had completely no concept of holding his position and continually drifted in to the middle and Vitor who is not an attacking right back was left without options in front of him. I just can't stick him. Meal ticket.

[Brown Fox]

I refuse to blame Weale for last nights draw. Yeah he looks low on confidence but is it any wonder?! Sven dropped him for no reason and we were doing ok, then he gets a recall for no apparent reason, it can't be easy for a player.

However, I can take aim at Vassell. He just looked lost last night when he came on. He had completely no concept of holding his position and continually drifted in to the middle and Vitor who is not an attacking right back was left without options in front of him. I just can't stick him. Meal ticket.

What a load of bull. Weale should have saved that regardless if his 'feelings' were hurt. Might not be easy getting dropped but a ball hit straight at you from 30 yards out which you can see all the way and not even hit that hard should be saved at U-15 level.

And vassell was great when he came on. Movement was quality and he was trying to unlock the 11 Palace players behind the ball. Did well to try and get things going.

[artursteppe]

Weale - 4 Not much to do. Beaten from distance, again - and it cost us.

Van Aanholt - 5 There was no threat on that side from Palace so he had no defending to do. Didn't get forward that well. Writhing around on the floor in the 93rd minute was a joke.

Bamba - 6 Again, Palace weren't much of a threat but he did very little wrong.

Mee - 6 Pretty much ditto.

Vitor - 5.5 Did nothing wrong. Didn't get forward though.

Gallagher - 6 Thought he was unlucky to be taken off. Not a great display, but not the worst.

Wellens - 6.5 Had an off day today, but still the only player in midfield who looked like he wanted to create anything.

Oakley - 6 For his goal and general effort. Had his best game in a long time today. But he can't change a game.

King - 0 I literally have nothing to say about his performance. Nothing. I can't even remember him touching the ball once or even looking bothered.

Kamara - 5 Off it tonight, no service though.

Yakubu - 3 Wasn't bothered at all. Can **** off now as far as I'm concerned.

I cannot believe that anyone there could possibly make Wellens their man of the match. 22000 fans thought our WORST player on the night was Wellens or king or Gallagher or Weale!!! ( It's a close call ).

Is 'Richie baby' your girlfriend???

[OriginalRobboFOX]

What a load of bull. Weale should have saved that regardless if his 'feelings' were hurt. Might not be easy getting dropped but a ball hit straight at you from 30 yards out which you can see all the way and not even hit that hard should be saved at U-15 level.

And vassell was great when he came on. Movement was quality and he was trying to unlock the 11 Palace players behind the ball. Did well to try and get things going.

This is true bull. I thought Vas was whack, as an experienced pro he should have supported Vitor down the right instead of drifting aimlessly into the middle constantly.

In regards to Weale, Ricardo never makes mistakes does he?? Had Yakubu and Kamara finished their dinner Weales error would be imaterial. But hey this is a forum and everyones entitled to their opinion.....

[The Doctor]

This is true bull. I thought Vas was whack, as an experienced pro he should have supported Vitor down the right instead of drifting aimlessly into the middle constantly.

not sure what your definition of drifting aimlessly is but he sure as hell wasn't aimless - he was driving in field, taking men on and trying to get us going, unlike most others on that pitch last night.

[Corky]

Weale- 4

Vitor- 6

Bamba- 5

Mee- 6

Van Aanholt- 5

King- 4

Wellens- 5

Oakley- 8

Gallagher- 5

Yakubu- 5

Kamara- 6

[OriginalRobboFOX]

not sure what your definition of drifting aimlessly is but he sure as hell wasn't aimless - he was driving in field, taking men on and trying to get us going, unlike most others on that pitch last night.

When you have a three pronged attack you have no widemen by deinition. The two forwards on the flanks would be expected to offer wide support and attack too. Considering that Naughton (an attacking right full back) was absent and we had Vitor (a more cautious full back [who didn't do too badly BTW]) you would expect the wide man playing out on the right to always be offering as Vitor is not going to be be skinning anyone anytime soon. Instead, Vassell made a few inward runs with the ball at the defence, which rarely produced anything. In turn this meant that when Palace kept soaking up the ball and then knocking it long it would eventually be filtered through to Vitor who would have no option but to put the ball in box from far out as opposed to the corner of the 18 yard box which would have been more effective. With Howard up top you would expect good service from around the corner flag area, instead we mostly were pumping it long as there was no wideman on the right....

[The Doctor]

True, but when you face a team that set up as palace did, playing as rigid as you are suggesting we should have done will get you nowhere, instead you need to be more fluid, drag players out of position and open the space up, something vassell did well, unfortunately king was a passenger and wellens was too careless in possession to capitalise on the gaps vassell was opening.

[Houdini Logic]

Vitor 4 or 5? I must have been watching a different game.

[okie fox]

Weale -5- Cost us again. We must find a goalkeeper for next season

Vitor -5- Wasted crosses. Not a right back

Bamba -7- Not troubled by Palace

Mee -7- Did his job well

PVA -6- OK, but needs to use his pace to take on the full back more often

Oakley -8- Don't usually rate him highly, but last night he was our best player

Wellens -6- Not on his game, but at least he stayed involved

King -5- Lost soul. Needs to get stuck in. Seems like there is no longer any space for his late runs into the box.

Gallagher -6- Surprised he went off. Wasted a few crosses, but tried to be creative.

Yakubu -5- Slow, no end result, doesn't win any headers. I am not a Yak fan. Note that injury-ridden Everton have not recalled him.

Kamara -5- Disappointing. Dwelled on the ball too much and was generally forced backwards.

SUBS:

Vassell -7- Made some good runs, but cut inside every time. Not a natural winger

Howard -6- Won a few headers (unlike Yakubu)

Dyer -5- No impact

PALACE:

Set out for a point. Always going to be difficult to break down so we needed to score first instead of conceding a soft goal.

[muzzy1981]

4 Weale - There was a noticable improvement or willing to distribute from the back like Ricardo but the goal for me caps off a pretty poor season (Agree if was Ricardo he would have been destroyed by the fans?)

6 Vitor - Good tackling & heading, struggled going forward strong cover for naughton though

7.5 Bamba - Absolute beast as ever

8 Mee (MOTM) - Outstanding all round ability displayed, he is going to go on to big things (unfortunately I doubt with us)

6 PVA - Needed to make more runs into space along the byline, great when he did it.

7 Oakley - 7/10 for effort but pretty average ability displayed thought he slowed the tempo down too much

5 Wellens - Not sharp at all, lost possesion a few times and distribution was below par

5 King - Went missing again confidence is low, perhaps due to contract talks, interest form prem clubs, Captaincy (Big shame)

6 Gally - Played ok but quality crossing is wasted against a system with 6ft4 centre halfs and us having strikers who can't head a ball

5 Kamara - Appears to be effective when playing a drifting position behind a striker, was often out to wide. Clearly has quality though

5 The Yak - Frustrating to watch, no point in lofting balls for him to head, showed glimmers of good link up play with Kamara but going to take longer for him to gel I feel

Subs

7.5 Vassel - Should have been on form the start as his speed would was effective against the big guys

5 Howard - Threw himself about without any results

4 Dyer - Didn't touch the ball

[Webbo]

Weale..........5 shockingly bad goal to concede

..

PVA...........7 Fair.

Mee...........8 Great young talent.

Bamba.......8 Solid

Vitor..........7 Fair

...

Gallagher..6.5

King..........6.5 Struggling for form atm.

Wellens...7.5 .Worked hard, didn't create much.

Oakley......8.5 motm. Not just the goal, good all round display.

...

Yakubu....6.5 Tried hard, didn't really come off for him.

Kamara....6.5 As above

.

.Subs;

Vassel.....7

Dyer........5

Howard....5

Can't understand this criticism of the defenders, they had 2 shots all night, one Weale saved and a speculative long range effort that he should have saved.

[Bettsj2]

Weale 4 - can't imagine the reaction if Ricardo was in goal and that went in.

Vitor 5 - a shadow of his usual self.

PVA 6 - can't cross for shit, but did ok.

Bamba 7 - did well, nothing got by him.

Mee 6 - although he did well, I still don't rate him.

King 4 - the best thing he did all night, a great run went un-noticed.

Wellens 5 - too slow on the ball tonight.

Oakley 8 - easily our best player, great goal.

Gallagher 5 - no coincidence that when wellens is bad, gally Is too.

Yakubu 6 - worked hard and should've had a goal, tightly marked.

Kamara 6 - see Yakubu.

Vassell 7 - looked decent and quite dangerous.

Dyer - did nothing.

Howard - did nothing apart from give at least four fouls away.

According to Alan Young he was excellent when he came on.

[lcfcsnow]

According to Alan Young he was excellent when he came on.

Alan Young is his biggest fan.

[Bettsj2]

How anyone can rate Wellens above Yakubu tonight is totally and utterly beyond me. Guy gets far too much stick.

Because Wellens is British.

Hate to say it but compare the abuse that Yakubu and Ricardo get to the undeserved praise Waghorn and Weale receive and you get a truly uncomfortable answer.

The last game I went to I heard someone shout, '**** off back to Africa you fat twat' after Yakubu mis-placed a pass. The comment was met with hordes of laughter by those around.

After the game last night, Alan Young said that Leicester fans were amongst the most knowledgable in the country. If anyone knows where these fans are, please let me know so I can get my tickets there because it definitely isn't in the Kop or anywhere near Monsieur Jobber.

[Haydos]

Because Wellens is British.

Hate to say it but compare the abuse that Yakubu and Ricardo get to the undeserved praise Waghorn and Weale receive and you get a truly uncomfortable answer.

The last game I went to I heard someone shout, '**** off back to Africa you fat twat' after Yakubu mis-placed a pass. The comment was met with hordes of laughter by those around.

After the game last night, Alan Young said that Leicester fans were amongst the most knowledgable in the country. If anyone knows where these fans are, please let me know so I can get my tickets there because it definitely isn't in the Kop or anywhere near Monsieur Jobber.

Don't forget Vitor, Bamba and Abe as well, everyone hates them!

[muzzy1981]

Don't forget Vitor, Bamba and Abe as well, everyone hates them!

Fans these days expect players to come in and perform immediately, as with managers but just like in any other proffesion it take time to gel and feel settled in their surroundings before they can really begin to perform.

An opposite example where a player has come in and and performed straight away is Bamba and therefore become an immediate fans favourite.

So in relation to the 'British' comment I tend to feel that it is more an issue of impatiance. Although it could be questioned that some fans less patient towards players who aren't British, i.e. Would some fans be as patient towards Waghorn if he were a Portuguese prospect?

[Haydos]

Fans these days expect players to come in and perform immediately, as with managers but just like in any other proffesion it take time to gel and feel settled in their surroundings before they can really begin to perform.

An opposite example where a player has come in and and performed straight away is Bamba and therefore become an immediate fans favourite.

So in relation to the 'British' comment I tend to feel that it is more an issue of impatiance. Although it could be questioned that some fans less patient towards players who aren't British, i.e. Would some fans be as patient towards Waghorn if he were a Portuguese prospect?

I'm not sure nationality has 'owt to do with it tbh. Waggy stepped up to the plate admirably last season and showed raw passion for us.

I think some of the more 'simple' fans are easily swayed by a player that works hard and that will be enough to satisfy a lot of them. You've probably hit the nail on the head with the impatience thing though but I don't think nationality comes into it for most people. Kamara for example, he's come in and done well so far and nobody's had a bad word to say about him.

[Bettsj2]

Don't forget Vitor, Bamba and Abe as well, everyone hates them!

The same people I referred to earlier call Bamba, 'Sambo' then talk about Abe eating dogs.

Sorry but I find it offensive.

Waghorn shows no end of effort but the bottom line is some of his performances this season have been absolute dogshit but does he get any critisism? Does he ****. King has dissapeared for the last 10 games practically but these morons next to me refer to Sven as a 'Swedish Twat' for dropping him. Howard needs no further comment.

Impatience is fine, I understand that completely. But why the need to bring race into it?

[Haydos]

The same people I referred to earlier call Bamba, 'Sambo' then talk about Abe eating dogs.

Sorry but I find it offensive.

Waghorn shows no end of effort but the bottom line is some of his performances this season have been absolute dogshit but does he get any critisism? Does he ****. King has dissapeared for the last 10 games practically but these morons next to me refer to Sven as a 'Swedish Twat' for dropping him. Howard needs no further comment.

Impatience is fine, I understand that completely. But why the need to bring race into it?

Was it not you who was talking about people being sick of Ricardo because he wasn't English? Or do you mean why do they bring race into it? This has gone on over a couple of days and I've forgotten who I was talking to about it

I don't know the number and I don't know if it's just our fans (it can't be) and I probably sound like an arrogant twat but a lot of our supporters are clueless. There are plenty that think Waggy hasn't performed this season and tbh I think he's looked a shadow of the player last year.

King is different, he's a match winner, but I didn't disagree with Sven for dropping him, he wasn't performing.