Premiership Thread 2011/12

[HEGGSY]

I used to respect Dalglish as a legend of the English game and a man with integrity and dignity, but this whole affair has shown that really, he is a massive cvnt who only see's things how he wants

[Bugg]

Dalglish is an absolute moron

[foxfanazer]

I used to respect Dalglish as a legend of the English game and a man with integrity and dignity, but this whole affair has shown that really, he is a massive cvnt who only see's things how he wants

he's starting to sound like arsene wenger with his "I didn't see the incident" answers in interviews"

[HEGGSY]

Dalglish is an absolute moron

This, really how can he honestly come out and say "I didn't know he refused to shake his hand" I mean come on does he think were fvcking stupid. Idiot

[HEGGSY]

Mertersacker Although it did look painful.

[Simmo86]

YAK.....just not good enough

[SystonFox]

Hate man utd and rio Ferdinand. What a cun t he is

[FoxyPV]

YAK.....just not good enough

13 goals so far in the PL and a sizeable portion of our fans hated him

Feed the yak and he will score.

[HEGGSY]

YAK.....just not good enough

Yeah, but all he does is score goals.

Feed the Yak

[Simmo86]

13 goals so far in the PL and a sizeable portion of our fans hated him

Feed the yak and he will score.

Goals...pfft, all about work rate!

[HEGGSY]

Goals...pfft, all about work rate!

And PASSSHHHHUUUNNNN. Were's Waghorn he's what we need right now. An injection of chasing down everything and not much else

[Simmo86]

Adam Bogdan Ed Sheeran

[buzzy]

Kenny Dalglish and Luis Suarez, ***** of the highest, highest order. The sooner they're both out of English football the better. Complete scumbags the both of them

you **** the sooner the fa clamp down on man utd as well the better you are either an man utd fan or . why are you blaming liverpool for there actions man utd are no saints an d never have been so shut the **** up. by the way i support leicester

[buzzy]

I used to respect Dalglish as a legend of the English game and a man with integrity and dignity, but this whole affair has shown that really, he is a massive cvnt who only see's things how he wants

and ferguson does

[MikeyT]

you **** the sooner the fa clamp down on man utd as well the better you are either an man utd fan or . why are you blaming liverpool for there actions man utd are no saints an d never have been so shut the **** up. by the way i support leicester

You're clearly no better, verbally abusing LCFCADAM for his thoughts. There you are calling him what I can only presume to be a t*at or a c*nt. Wow, imagine a world where we all had different views and opinions, without people like you attacking people for them.

[MC Prussian]

Suarez and Evra are both clowns, each in his own department.

Frankly, the whole "he said, I said" affair is more than just pathetic.

As for Yakubu, did you see the touch when he tried to lob Paddy Kenny from outside the penalty area? World class.

[MikeyT]

Suarez and Evra are both clowns, each in his own department.

Frankly, the whole "he said, I said" affair is more than just pathetic.

As for Yakubu, did you see the touch when he tried to lob Paddy Kenny from outside the penalty area? World class.

Sign him up

[Guest ttfn]

There's a lot of stuff being written here that I simply cannot relate to, no matter how much I try.

of course... but people are talking about how wrong it was for Suarez not to shake Evra's hand ... surely its wrong also then for Ferdinand not to shake Suarez's hand? THAT was my point.

Suarez, convicted of using racial abuse, refused to shake hands with the black player he had abused. Ferdinand, a black team-mate and vocal campaigner against racism, took offence to the utter contempt Suarez was showing not just to Evra but to the process surrounding his punishment as a whole.

If you think that's melodramatic, I believe Suarez tweeted about "everything not being as it seems". Suarez has shown no remorse throughout this. Given Ferdinand's position within the anti-racism community, it's small wonder he didn't knock out the contemptuous oik.

you **** the sooner the fa clamp down on man utd as well the better you are either an man utd fan or . why are you blaming liverpool for there actions man utd are no saints an d never have been so shut the **** up. by the way i support leicester

Aside from the fact that this post looks like it was written by somebody with serious anger management issues, it does highlight an important, and clearly long-running issue throughout this thread.

People hate Man United so much that they are unable/unwilling to see this for what it is. Suarez racially abused Patrice Evra, who then offered a conciliatory handshake. Suarez, the perpetrator in the first instance, refused to accept what was (given what had gone before it) a pretty "big" gesture.

Liverpool Football Club, in their complete failure to admonish the detestable actions of their centre-forward and through their reluctance to rein in "King" Kenny's nonsensical ramblings, are the only club with anything to answer for in this whole debacle.

[dave the caveman]

Pretty obvious that Suarez still doesn't think or at least won't admit that he did anything wrong. On what evidence was he actually convicted? In evra you have a man with a history of making false racist claims. Funny that it always seems to him getting involved in this kind of thing. Suarez says that all is not what it seems, and I'm inclined to believe him. Evra is the scumbag in this situation and had got away with it through acts of positive discrimination, imho.

[Guest ttfn]

Pretty obvious that Suarez still doesn't think or at least won't admit that he did anything wrong. On what evidence was he actually convicted? In evra you have a man with a history of making false racist claims. Funny that it always seems to him getting involved in this kind of thing. Suarez says that all is not what it seems, and I'm inclined to believe him. Evra is the scumbag in this situation and had got away with it through acts of positive discrimination, imho.

No you don't. Please cite an example of this.

[dave the caveman]

No you don't. Please cite an example of this.

Ok. Granted the first one hasn't been disproven, but the others have, and this is just from memory. I'm sure there are more.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/story/_/id/793670/ce/uk/?cc=5739&ver=global

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_2369002,00.html

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_4593815,00.html

[Guest ttfn]

Ok. Granted the first one hasn't been disproven, but the others have, and this is just from memory. I'm sure there are more.

http://soccernet.esp...5739&ver=global

http://www.skysports...2369002,00.html

http://www.skysports...4593815,00.html

As you say, the first one hasn't been disproven.

In the second one, from the article you have posted:

The Reds' right-back was accused by two deaf viewers who claimed they lip-read Finnan using an abusive term towards the French defender.

In the third incident, it wasn't Evra who alleged that he had been racially abused, it was somebody else alleging that Evra had been racially abused.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/dec/21/vindication-downside-patrice-evra-luis-suarez

But Evra never cited racism in the Chelsea case, contrary to what you may have read elsewhere. Liverpool's extraordinary statement referred to Evra having no credibility and used as an example his "prior unfounded accusations". Except it was Mike Phelan, United's assistant manager, and Richard Hartis, the goalkeeping coach, who purported to hear the word "immigrant" used at Stamford Bridge. The story that it was Evra has gathered so much momentum now that even the usually reliable Press Association presented it as fact.

Patrice Evra is clearly no saint, but the smear campaign which has been undertaken against him is despicable, and unfortunately appears to be taking in a lot of people.

[Bugg]

Adam Bogdan Ed Sheeran

He looks more like justin bieber if you ask me

[buzzy]

what really gets on my goat is ferguson pointing the finger and saying things that are inciting trouble when he is no saint. but the thing that is really getting on my nerves is there was no difference between saurez and john terry but the fa only ban saurez when terry should also have been banned for 8 games. why are the old farts at the fa got no balls to say to chelsea that terry shall not play until the court case is done . capello lost is job because the fa did not take action in the first place. go back to the case in hand rasists have no part in football and society and mr ferguson and mr dalglish keep foughts to yourself do not put it in the media. for mr evra you are a wind up merchant and should be giving a fine for his antics at the end of the game

[dave the caveman]

As you say, the first one hasn't been disproven.

In the second one, from the article you have posted:

In the third incident, it wasn't Evra who alleged that he had been racially abused, it was somebody else alleging that Evra had been racially abused.

http://www.guardian....vra-luis-suarez

Patrice Evra is clearly no saint, but the smear campaign which has been undertaken against him is despicable, and unfortunately appears to be taking in a lot of people.

I suspect the accusers were accusing on Evra's behalf, but that's just speculation of course. Don't see any signs of a smear campaign. These were cases that were looked at and thrown out by a supposedly respectable legal system. You just need to look at the amount of times someone like Emile Heskey or any other black footballer has been racially abused and compare it to the number of times Evra has been racially abused. He's either ridiculously unlucky, lying, or more likely provoking the incidents in some way and then using both the trigger happy way in which white people like to accuse white people of racism and the inability of white people to accuse black people of racism as a sword and a shield respectively. There was a black girl in my predominantly white school who was an expert at this. Everybody, and i mean everybody, could see right through it, but nobody could do a thing about it.