Wherethefoxhat? Posted 16 August 2011 Posted 16 August 2011 If you were raised on Rainbow & Blue Peter, and you played in the woods, fell out of trees and went home filthy and got a thick ear, had 4 TV channels..... & school started with the Lords prayer,jackets for goalposts,home by seven in go-karts made with pram wheels, recorded the top 40 from the radio on a tape, drank from the tap, went to the corner shop for a 2p mix up & maybe 5 Parkies...... and you still turned out ok, ....Remember.... WHEN ENGLAND WAS GREAT !!
Wherethefoxhat? Posted 16 August 2011 Author Posted 16 August 2011 Those were the days. ...we thought they'd never end ?
turkish14 Posted 16 August 2011 Posted 16 August 2011 When Sundays were an actual day of rest.....everywhere closed apart from maybe an off licence or corner shop...... Watching captain planet on a saturday morning whilst eating lucky charms......( i know these are not strictly "england great" things but still....) 1996 european championships when the whole country united and st georges flags were everywhere.
purpleronnie Posted 16 August 2011 Posted 16 August 2011 Love the fact people hark back to times which were just as violent as today. People have short memories.
MikeyT Posted 16 August 2011 Posted 16 August 2011 When Sundays were an actual day of rest.....everywhere closed apart from maybe an off licence or corner shop...... Watching captain planet on a saturday morning whilst eating lucky charms......( i know these are not strictly "england great" things but still....) 1996 european championships when the whole country united and st georges flags were everywhere. Ahhhh memories!
Wherethefoxhat? Posted 16 August 2011 Author Posted 16 August 2011 Love the fact people hark back to times which were just as violent as today. People have short memories. Bullshit !
Salieri Posted 16 August 2011 Posted 16 August 2011 Love the fact people hark back to times which were just as violent as today. People have short memories. I think it's more to do with reminiscing about ones childhood, tis in my case anyway.
Wherethefoxhat? Posted 16 August 2011 Author Posted 16 August 2011 I think it's more to do with reminiscing about ones childhood, tis in my case anyway. Exactly So.. when we were kids essentially? Yep Libertine........young and innocent ???
Alexikokopops Posted 16 August 2011 Posted 16 August 2011 So.. when we were kids essentially? That's what I was thinking "When I was a child and was oblivious to the problems in the world, with no responsibility and no worries, everything seemed so much simpler and better" I thought I was reading this thread.
Rincewind Posted 16 August 2011 Posted 16 August 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DAyaTIXdN5fI Trying to insert a video.
Alexikokopops Posted 16 August 2011 Posted 16 August 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DAyaTIXdN5fI Zingari beat you to it Mary Hopkin
Webbo Posted 16 August 2011 Posted 16 August 2011 If you were raised on Rainbow & Blue Peter, and you played in the woods, fell out of trees and went home filthy and got a thick ear, had 4 TV channels..... & school started with the Lords prayer,jackets for goalposts,home by seven in go-karts made with pram wheels, recorded the top 40 from the radio on a tape, drank from the tap, went to the corner shop for a 2p mix up & maybe 5 Parkies...... and you still turned out ok, ....Remember.... WHEN ENGLAND WAS GREAT !! 3 TV channels.
Zingari Posted 16 August 2011 Posted 16 August 2011 Love the fact people hark back to times which were just as violent as today. People have short memories. check out the graph on page VI of this , it shows quite clearly how indictable offences have risen in the UK and sorry but i'm going to assume that indictable offences include violent crime http://www.parliament.uk/documents/commons/lib/research/rp99/rp99-111.pdf Notice how fairly level it is until around the40' and 50's and then something dramatic from the 60's on ? edit ; sorry , but you are indeed correct that the times that people are harking back to are indeed as you say just as bad , my apologies the point i was trying to make is the general trend since before those time
Rincewind Posted 16 August 2011 Posted 16 August 2011 Depends on the way you look at things. I have mates who think the fifties were the best times. People left doors open and nothing was nicked. Well the The best entertainment system was a tv or a radio in a massive cabinet. Not many people had a phone. All cars were Morris Minors. The main toilet was in the yard shared by 2 other families and bath night was shared by the family in a tin tub by the fire. I can hardly see a burlar nicking the TV and radio then taking them to the local boozer to flog on. Going back to the Victorian era in London people were mugged on a nightly basis but if you were one of the working classes the culprit was never caught. If you were wealthy the likes of Sherlock Holmes were called in to investigate. But yes there have been many changes for the worse. People are more possession minded. From the poorest to the richest households the houses are full of luxary goods. When in the 'olden days' kids were happy with an orange, an apple, a selection box and a a wooden fort with soldiers (dolls house) the kids now have the latest game console Iphone new PC as well as money from various aunties and thats just kids from single parent families. Does the graph take into account the population/domestic violence that wasnt recorded
Zingari Posted 16 August 2011 Posted 16 August 2011 28 of us used to live in a tiny little house with great big holes in the roof and our dad used to thrash us to sleep wi' 'is belt
Alexikokopops Posted 16 August 2011 Posted 16 August 2011 check out the graph on page VI of this , it shows quite clearly how indictable offences have risen in the UK and sorry but i'm going to assume that indictable offences include violent crime http://www.parliament.uk/documents/commons/lib/research/rp99/rp99-111.pdf Notice how fairly level it is until around the40' and 50's and then something dramatic from the 60's on ? It won't account for all the increase, but something I always bare in mind when looking at crime figures is this (I've just nicked it from the link because I'm too lazy to put it in my own words: in 1997 56% of crimes were not reported to the police. In earlier years, this figure was probably higher and accounts for some of the increase For instance, I'm sure I saw something which showed a positive correlation between police numbers and crime (known to police), but that was because there was more police to report to and a greater feeling that they could do something about it, and not because police cause more crimes to be committed (although someone made that connection). Or something like that. I was looking in passing. The British Crime Survey is meant to give a more accurate indication of crime figures rather than the numbers reported to the police. I'm not disagreeing with you or anything, more just musing. As we've established, I have a statistics problem. More importantly though, the 1980s were still shit.
Zingari Posted 16 August 2011 Posted 16 August 2011 It won't account for all the increase, but something I always bare in mind when looking at crime figures is this (I've just nicked it from the link because I'm too lazy to put it in my own words: in 1997 56% of crimes were not reported to the police. In earlier years, this figure was probably higher and accounts for some of the increase For instance, I'm sure I saw something which showed a positive correlation between police numbers and crime (known to police), but that was because there was more police to report to and a greater feeling that they could do something about it, and not because police cause more crimes to be committed (although someone made that connection). Or something like that. I was looking in passing. The British Crime Survey is meant to give a more accurate indication of crime figures rather than the numbers reported to the police. I'm not disagreeing with you or anything, more just musing. As we've established, I have a statistics problem. More importantly though, the 1980s were still shit. thanks i'd just edited that i was looking at the longer time period and realise that in the relatively shorter period that we are talking about things weren't any better ( statistically anyway )
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