Self -Harming Anyone?

[Daggers]

...but I think a little bit of research and becoming a little less naive can only be a good thing

Oh yes.

In life as a whole.

[FuriousFox46]

I still to this day don't understand why people self harm, I'm not being mean. I just don't see why a person who's suffering would want to inflict more pain upon themselves?

Anyway, Dangerous Tiger. I think it's best that you try and get some professional help. I know, we all probably mean well but most of us, as it's often apparent don't have a clue what we're talking about

I hope everything gets better soon, mate. Us animals gotta look out for each other

[Houdini Logic]

I just don't see why a person who's suffering would want to inflict more pain upon themselves?

Beacuse every second you're in pain or thinking about being in pain is another second that you're not thinking about something else.

[Foxhateram]

It releases tension that is built up in your body. It's actually a very natural thing to do, as bleeding out releases positive endorphines and high glucose levels which are sent to fix the wound.

I never have any recollection if doing it when i do/ used to. It's like I lose control for a while. It's hard to understand but its something that I'm now so glad I have under control.

[FuriousFox46]

Beacuse every second you're in pain or thinking about being in pain is another second that you're not thinking about something else.

If that's it, why not simply try and distract yourself in a healthier manner?

[Houdini Logic]

If that's it, why not simply try and distract yourself in a healthier manner?

Like sticking on a Michael Mcintye DVD?

[FuriousFox46]

Like sticking on a Michael Mcintye DVD?

Or going for a run

[Daggers]

Or going for a run

You've clearly never suffered from depression.

Go read the link I posted earlier and educate yourself.

[Rincewind]

Stan Collymore is always talking about it on Twitter (depression) I believe he runs a charity in aid of it. He gets a lot of stick sometimes but most who tweet seem to understand and I expect fellow sufferers.

Because he has a good lifestyle a lot of people think he should not be affected by it. I know very little about it. Interesting to read that its something to do with your body system and tension. Just shows everyones has a different level system so it could affect anyone randomly.

Of course stress and worry can trigger it off more than if you are feeling good but it still can hit anyone.

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

It can only I think, be understood, partially just, by those of us who have/still do self harm. It is not easy to talk about it, and maybe the deep seated reasons are different within each person who does this.

The last time I did thi9s six years ago was followed by a failed suicide attempt by use of drink and prescribed anti depressants. I passed out before I could down all the tablets, and my partner's daughter found me. I thank God I did not succeed now, but I did get help from within the police force, for which I will always be eternally grateful.

Thus I find it somewhat more disturbing that I have started again, but am seeking help at an early stage.

It is difficult to come onto a site like this, and speak up, but I know there are others, and realize now that anyone this happens to, should not be considered odd or indeed rare.

[skinnydipper]

It can only I think, be understood, partially just, by those of us who have/still do self harm. It is not easy to talk about it, and maybe the deep seated reasons are different within each person who does this.

The last time I did thi9s six years ago was followed by a failed suicide attempt by use of drink and prescribed anti depressants. I passed out before I could down all the tablets, and my partner's daughter found me. I thank God I did not succeed now, but I did get help from within the police force, for which I will always be eternally grateful.

Thus I find it somewhat more disturbing that I have started again, but am seeking help at an early stage.

It is difficult to come onto a site like this, and speak up, but I know there are others, and realize now that anyone this happens to, should not be considered odd or indeed rare.

It's more common than I'd ever realised.

Good luck

[Guest Bilo]

Massive respect for you DT.

It takes balls to speak so publicly about your demons and I hope you find a way to fight them. I've had my own problems over the past couple of years and sometimes the best thing to do is to cut out the root causes, even if that is painful.

I'm not as brave as you so I won't go into any more detail on here but there are always means of getting back on track.

All the best to you.

[Daggers]

I'm perfectly happy to be open and honest about this and related topics with anyone on here who cares to get in touch, not just the offer to DT.

I've first hand experience with self-harm, depression, suicide, MIND and the current treatments available on the NHS and am happy to pass on what help I can.

It's something I care passionately about due to events close to home and work. For anyone wondering who doesn't want to get in touch with a twat like me go see your doctor or read one of the web sites:

• NHS Depression
  
• NHS Self-harm
  
• Mind Depression
  
• Mind Self-harm
  

Mind helpline - 0300 123 3393, Mon-Fri 9:00-6:00

And remember that if you need to contact someone urgently there is 24hr a day help available at The Samaritans - 08457 90 90 90

[email protected]

www.samaritans.org

Look after yourselves

[Bob Weasel Fox]

I'm perfectly happy to be open and honest about this and related topics with anyone on here who cares to get in touch, not just the offer to DT.

I've first hand experience with self-harm, depression, suicide, MIND and the current treatments available on the NHS and am happy to pass on what help I can.

It's something I care passionately about due to events close to home and work. For anyone wondering who doesn't want to get in touch with a twat like me go see your doctor or read one of the web sites:

• NHS Depression
  
• NHS Self-harm
  
• Mind Depression
  
• Mind Self-harm
  

Mind helpline - 0300 123 3393, Mon-Fri 9:00-6:00

And remember that if you need to contact someone urgently there is 24hr a day help available at The Samaritans - 08457 90 90 90

[email protected]

www.samaritans.org

Look after yourselves

Superb Daggers very good of you to post this

it isnt understood by most, i have never SH but know plenty of people that have for various reasons. What i do understand is those feelings that get you so low that you consider a variety of options in your life. As i posted a topic on "Ectopic Pregnancy" around 6 to 7 months ago now as my wife suffered one at this time, what i havent since stated is that my wife has since stated on many many occasions she wants to curl up in a corner and die and on a couple of occasions even stated that she wants to commit suicide to the point where i have previously literally slept by the front door to prevent her leaving the house when i am asleep and going ahead with her plans. We are both currently seeking help locally with a charity based organisation that specialises in child death and pregnancy related death. This i am sure in time will help us both, i desperately want to help my wife and fingers crossed it looks like she (us) has turned a corner at last but it has been a living hell for 6 to 7 months now. Our baby would have been born on March 18th and i think once we get past this date it will also help us move on. Anyway all i am saying is DT, and anyone else out there, there is hope, there are people to call upon (thanks Daggers) and genuinely if anyone needs any advice or a metaphorical shoulder please call one of these numbers for help or even message me if you need any advice or help etc as i am genuinely a kind thoughtful person who would be more than willing to help others

[Daggers]

CW: there are support groups for relations of those suffering from depression. If you need details let me know

[Bob Weasel Fox]

CW: there are support groups for relations of those suffering from depression. If you need details let me know

Thanks Daggers, we are currently visiting "The Laura Centre" together for help and we hope this makes a difference (first session seemed very beneficial)

[Rincewind]

This topic certainly puts things in perspective. I have been a moaning bugger, unemployment related but I know I am a lot better off than some people. I have never been so low to consider SH but I am aware that it is something that can happen to anyone. I have tried to keep busy for the past nine months job searching and other interests but a few times I have felt fed up with the way things were going. Then something happens to take muy mind off myself.

I realise it can be hard but I have always gone with the old 'There is always sombody worse off than yourself.' It works for me and I tend to be a live for today kind of person which is probably why my financial situation went off track for a while. .

So DT and others there are people that care out there and willing to help. Take any help that you can and tell yourself that you are a good person and believe it.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

This topic certainly puts things in perspective. I have been a moaning bugger, unemployment related but I know I am a lot better off than some people. I have never been so low to consider SH but I am aware that it is something that can happen to anyone. I have tried to keep busy for the past nine months job searching and other interests but a few times I have felt fed up with the way things were going. Then something happens to take muy mind off myself.

I realise it can be hard but I have always gone with the old 'There is always sombody worse off than yourself.' It works for me and I tend to be a live for today kind of person which is probably why my financial situation went off track for a while. .

So DT and others there are people that care out there and willing to help. Take any help that you can and tell yourself that you are a good person and believe it.

Well said

[Steven]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/mar/01/how-i-managed-to-stop-self-harming

[RobHawk]

I cant really comment on Self Harming specifically but as far as depression and mental health issues go, from my experience the biggest thing you can do is talk to a proffessional about how you are feeling! Anti-Depressants are good as a short term solution but are overly used by GP's and many people become almost dependent on them which is not what they are there for!

I know people who refuse counselling worried about the stigma of taking it but are happy to take anti-depressants and never come off them! Seeking the cause of the issues is much more important than trying to cover them up! Any group session or support you may be offered i would take with both hands.

DT - Specifically to you i would say firstly how brave you are for bringing it up in such a public place, secondly try not to let the fact that you have started SH again make you further depressed. I know from reading your posts you have been through alot the last year and i guess its like you have fallen off the wagon much like an alcoholic. The fact you have recognised it early and are looking to tackle it is the big first step and you have already made it! Just keep taking all the support available and im sure you will get through! And don't forget to talk to your loved ones about it as well! As hard as it is for them to hear its alot better than the worry of what might be going on!

I wish you all the best!

[Rincewind]

I have just joined Tumblr. Its a blog site. On mine there are messages from the staff/mods and one post says they will not allow posts that promote SH. The go on to say this includes eating disorders like balema (sp) Not read it all though. I have heard of website/messageboards where they do allow it and this has led to young people especially teenage girls regarding slimming and looking right.

So what I am saying here it is difficult in the modern world with all the pressure on people to succeed no matter how.

[FoxyPV]

It can only I think, be understood, partially just, by those of us who have/still do self harm. It is not easy to talk about it, and maybe the deep seated reasons are different within each person who does this.

The last time I did thi9s six years ago was followed by a failed suicide attempt by use of drink and prescribed anti depressants. I passed out before I could down all the tablets, and my partner's daughter found me. I thank God I did not succeed now, but I did get help from within the police force, for which I will always be eternally grateful.

Thus I find it somewhat more disturbing that I have started again, but am seeking help at an early stage.

It is difficult to come onto a site like this, and speak up, but I know there are others, and realize now that anyone this happens to, should not be considered odd or indeed rare.

Good luck DT. Well done for having the courage to talk about so publicly.

[Rincewind]

Saw something earlier on TV about the Tsumini disaster that made me think about this although not on the subject.

They were talking to some of the children that survived an one said 'I have started to write my feelings in a diary, writing about my fears means I don't have to face them.'

Well it was something like that. Which is how I think writing can be good theropy. Like if you have urges write about them and you wont commit them for real/

[Rincewind]

This is a follow-up to a blog posted by the staff on Tumbly on SH

http://staff.tumblr.com/

[Leicfox]

I'm so glad this thread has been taken seriously with understanding, a willingness to learn and great advise.

Special mention to Daggers who has offered his help and advise to anyone who wants to speak to him regarding issues he's had first hand experience in, a very kind and compassionate thing to do.

I've got my own demons and I did actually post them in this thread (Some might have read it), but I couldn't leave it posted as shame and embarrassment started niggling away at me even though I don't know any of you and I'm sat behind a computer so It had to go for my own sake.

It's a very courageous thing you've done DT. I wish you the very best in your recovery.