Burmesefox Posted 23 March 2012 Posted 23 March 2012 .....owing to their poor performances! Well that's what plenty on here have said. What a load of bollox! The league doesn't lie and it does even itself out of the course of a season. Brian Clough was one of the best managers this country has ever produced and just listen to what he said about refs 40 years ago. Go 3 minutes into the link and he sums it up perfectly. He demonstrates that watching the tv monitors we can all study an incident 24 times and still not be certain whereas a ref has to make his decision on the spot. http://www.bbc.co.uk...otball/16039736 I'm not a ref by the way.
THEFATBASTARD Posted 23 March 2012 Posted 23 March 2012 Ths standard of refs this season has been s h i t e ...end of..they have had an adverse effect on our results this season.
purpleronnie Posted 23 March 2012 Posted 23 March 2012 And an adverse affect of every other team too I'm sure.
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 23 March 2012 Posted 23 March 2012 it evens itself out over the season Biggest myth in the history of football. Does it bollocks.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 23 March 2012 Posted 23 March 2012 .....owing to their poor performances! Well that's what plenty on here have said. What a load of bollox! The league doesn't lie and it does even itself out of the course of a season. Brian Clough was one of the best managers this country has ever produced and just listen to what he said about refs 40 years ago. Go 3 minutes into the link and he sums it up perfectly. He demonstrates that watching the tv monitors we can all study an incident 24 times and still not be certain whereas a ref has to make his decision on the spot. http://www.bbc.co.uk...otball/16039736 I'm not a ref by the way. Agreed. I would love to see some of the idiots who wear rose tinted gasses, referee a Championship game.
Petchy Posted 23 March 2012 Posted 23 March 2012 I don't think anyone would dispute that it's hard being a ref as you have to make a call there and then but you also can't dispute that we have been extremely unlucky this year with officiating, more so than any other season I can remember in recent memory. As for it evening out, I don't agree with that. I can't say that we have received as many favourable decisions as we have wrong ones.
Dan Posted 23 March 2012 Posted 23 March 2012 I think some of the refereeing decisions this season have been a disgrace and whilst everyone claims they're unlucky with refs, the amount of times things have gone against us this year is astounding and I wouldn't even be surprised to find there is a dislike for Leicester. I agree with what someone said a few weeks back about it, maybe Leicester have just got a reputation for being a bunch of cvnts in the referees assosiation and we don't get the benefit of the doubt as a result. But when you look back to decisions like Schmeichel against Forest, Beckford at Brighton etc... you really wonder what the ref's thinking. I've actually thought in the past maybe you get a better view from the stands than you do on the pitch, because it's very often you find the majority of the crowd think one thing and the ref thinks another. A few things have gone our way, Konchesky v Swindon is the obvious one for me, definite red card. But I think in terms of big decisions evening themselves out, I'm saying this trying to be as unbiased (and probably not sounding it) as possible, but there's absolutely no way it's been good to us this season.
purpleronnie Posted 23 March 2012 Posted 23 March 2012 Biggest myth in the history of football. Does it bollocks. so you've seen every game and analysed every decision.
Petchy Posted 23 March 2012 Posted 23 March 2012 so you've seen every game and analysed every decision. I hate these kind of sarcastic responses on here. From one extreme to another.
purpleronnie Posted 23 March 2012 Posted 23 March 2012 I hate these kind of sarcastic responses on here. From one extreme to another. Not sarcastic at all the states it's a myth well then prove it.
gazfox9 Posted 23 March 2012 Posted 23 March 2012 Asolutely no way have decisions in our games been evened out this season. We've received far more poor decisions than good mnes. Three of the red cards, Schmeichel,Becks and Pearson were indefendable from a referees perspective. Reffing is a hard job, but both them and the two assistants are well paid for their services. Between the three of then they shouldnt get so many big decisions wrong.
Petchy Posted 23 March 2012 Posted 23 March 2012 Not sarcastic at all the states it's a myth well then prove it. You did take it from one extreme to another though. Could you not just take on someone else's opinion without scrutinising it? It's just as easy to say it's a myth as it is to say it evens itself out so by your rules, you'll need to prove that it evens itself out over the course of a season as well then.
purpleronnie Posted 23 March 2012 Posted 23 March 2012 You did take it from one extreme to another though. Could you not just take on someone else's opinion without scrutinising it? It's just as easy to say it's a myth as it is to say it evens itself out so by your rules, you'll need to prove that it evens itself out over the course of a season as well then. hence why you shouldn't claim its a myth then.
Petchy Posted 23 March 2012 Posted 23 March 2012 hence why you shouldn't claim its a myth then. I didn't, peterborofox did.
purpleronnie Posted 23 March 2012 Posted 23 March 2012 I didn't, peterborofox did. The use of ‘you’ can mean ‘one’, anyone, or people in general. Stop being pedantic.
Matt Posted 23 March 2012 Posted 23 March 2012 And how many point have our defence/team's poor performances cost us. Don't get me wrong, I the referees have to be blamed to an extent but I think the real problem lies deeper than some people wish to look, and they are in denial if they think referees have cost us a chance of going up this season, can anyone honestly say we have been good enough for a promotion challenge this season? Another point i'd like to make is hands down Kasper has been our player of the season, No disrespect but a keeper as a player of the season? In a team looking to make a promotion challenge? That's not right, Kasper has won us games, Kasper has saved us many points this season, without him we'd be alot nearer a relegation battle than a promotion bid, I think that in itself points out the problems we have and the reason we've not met expectations of pre-season, not poor referees, poor referees havn't helped, not one bit, and i'm not justifying referees costings us points, but when people blame referees over poor performances and blatent problems it annoys me.
Burmesefox Posted 23 March 2012 Author Posted 23 March 2012 The problem is that we, as fans, dwell on decisions made against us, and forget or even do not see the decisions that go in our favour. This thread can appear on every single club's forum across the country and I guarantee that the same proportion of fans for each club will feel that their club has come off the worst end of refereeing decisions. Results do even themselves out across the course of time. I think managers would be best to concentrate on their own teams inabilities rather those of the refs.
Burmesefox Posted 23 March 2012 Author Posted 23 March 2012 Tennis - played on third of an acre with 6 line judges, 1 umpire, 1 ref. Football - played on over an acre with 2 linesman, 1 ref, 1 fourt official
Out Foxed Posted 23 March 2012 Posted 23 March 2012 i don't know how anyone who has actually watched the games this seasons and seen some of the, frankly bizarre, decisions and refute they've cost us points. yes, us being shit at times has cost us points too; no one is denying that. but the amount of dodgy pens given against us this season alone is cause for concern.
acooling08 Posted 23 March 2012 Posted 23 March 2012 Next season I'm going to make a thread which has every fixture, and I'm going to note down how many points we lost/gained in each game as a result of refereeing decisions. At the end I'll add it all up and we'll see for once. I am convinced that refs have cost us at least 5 points this season with some outright appalling decisions.
philce Posted 23 March 2012 Posted 23 March 2012 I don't think anyone would dispute that it's hard being a ref as you have to make a call there and then but you also can't dispute that we have been extremely unlucky this year with officiating, more so than any other season I can remember in recent memory. As for it evening out, I don't agree with that. I can't say that we have received as many favourable decisions as we have wrong ones. Since the administration and promotion season the FA have had it in for us, why not back us when Norwich reduced our allocation? Imagine if it was us and not QPR last season with the dodgy deals, they would have deducted points and made sure we didnt even get in the playoffs!
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 23 March 2012 Posted 23 March 2012 Referees this season at the games i have been to, listened to, watched etc have generally been shocking, however the reason we are where we are in the table is because we cant defend as a team and we are not good enough, its that simple
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