A serious question for our time.

[Daggers]

Seriously... watch this movie..even this trailer gives the answers

explained from about 50 seconds in

The end would certainly account for Dave The Moose's attitude on here.

[MooseBreath]

Your problem, is not this fictitious idea that people are popping out sprogs to earn money, this does not happen, people are being facilitated to have as many children as they want, but the actual amount of child benefit is quite small and is not going to allow people to make a living off having children, as you seem to believe. The more common reason for women becoming baby factories is through a sense of self worth, if they are a mother then they have a purpose, a role.

What are you? An anthropologist? A philosopher, a politician, an economist? Do you have a crystal ball? Can you read people's minds? Because there seems to be no limit on the number of subjects on which you are an expert.

Ignoring most of your post which is largely a response to words I did not write, I would like to know how you know that nobody is having kids because they feel incentivised by the prospect of state funded financially security. Have there been studies done? Have you personally spent a lot of time interviewing people on the subject? Otherwise I really don't understand how you can claim to know what motivates people who you don't know.

My opinion is purely from anecdotal experience. I've heard certain types of people discussing having children for the sake of benefits. It almost seems like an un-joke in the chav community. They are laugh about everything they'll get for free once they've had a kid.

[Daggers]

They are laugh about everything they'll get for free once they've had a kid.

You sound like you've had a kid and you speak with authority about having them. What, in your opinion, is the best way to have children? Do you think it's best to have one at a time or have a whole load together? Did you wait until you could afford to have a child or did you get taken by surprise by one?

[Corky]

why is it chavs are so fertile? professors and geniuses seem to always struggle to conceive and have to go through years of IVF treatment then give up and adopt, while the dregs of this world spew out sprogs at the drop of a hat..something wrong surely?

Don't complain about it, without these beings we wouldn't have the Jeremy Kyle Show, which is television treasure.

[I am Rod Hull]

My Mrs heard the girl next door (17 at the time) say to her mate "I want to have a baby so I can get a house". Her kid is now 3 months old and shes waiting for her drug addicted mugger of a boyfriend to come out of prison.

[Jaspa]

My Mrs heard the girl next door (17 at the time) say to her mate "I want to have a baby so I can get a house". Her kid is now 3 months old and shes waiting for her drug addicted mugger of a boyfriend to come out of prison.

You live in a sh*tho*e ?

[Zingari]

why is it chavs are so fertile? professors and geniuses seem to always struggle to conceive and have to go through years of IVF treatment then give up and adopt, while the dregs of this world spew out sprogs at the drop of a hat..something wrong surely?

It’s god’s / nature’s way of making sure there are always a more plentiful supply of canon fodder, drones , workers etc than there are rulers.

Simples

[I am Rod Hull]

You live in a sh*tho*e ?

I wouldn`t call the little South Derbyshire village in the heart of the National Forest I live in a shitehole, Its very quiet.

This girl as been allowed to do whatever she likes by her mother who coincidentally had her when she was 17. The mugger boyfriend is from Derby and has been in care homes for most of his life, hes serving 18 months for beating the crap out of a kid for his phone.

[Jaspa]

It’s god’s / nature’s way of making sure there are always a more plentiful supply of canon fodder, drones , workers etc than there are rulers.

Simples

I said this a few pages back

' Military Industrial Complex ' & Filtering and shaping the most intelligent

[Jaspa]

I wouldn`t call the little South Derbyshire village in the heart of the National Forest I live in a shitehole, Its very quiet.

This girl as been allowed to do whatever she likes by her mother who coincidentally had her when she was 17. The mugger boyfriend is from Derby and has been in care homes for most of his life, hes serving 18 months for beating the crap out of a kid for his phone.

Pardon me then

Most of the Derbyshire villages Ive been to have been lovely

That type of stuff is typical of Brauny, New Parks and Beaumont Leys; desperate young skets trying to get Pregno

[Captain...]

What are you? An anthropologist? A philosopher, a politician, an economist? Do you have a crystal ball? Can you read people's minds? Because there seems to be no limit on the number of subjects on which you are an expert.

Ignoring most of your post which is largely a response to words I did not write, I would like to know how you know that nobody is having kids because they feel incentivised by the prospect of state funded financially security. Have there been studies done? Have you personally spent a lot of time interviewing people on the subject? Otherwise I really don't understand how you can claim to know what motivates people who you don't know.

My opinion is purely from anecdotal experience. I've heard certain types of people discussing having children for the sake of benefits. It almost seems like an un-joke in the chav community. They are laugh about everything they'll get for free once they've had a kid.

I'm just an opinionated fvckwit with a job that isn't really challenging me at the moment. What are you?

These rumours have been going round for years, and there has not been any evidence that suggests anybody is doing it.

Do you actually realise how little child benefit is? £13.70 a week, that works out £702 a year, are you seriously suggesting that people are actually having babies for £702 a year? Do you have any idea how much it costs to raise a child?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/feb/23/cost-raising-child

Parents typically shell out over £9,000 a year to feed and clothe a child, so lets halve that as they will be budgeting as much as possible, so £4,500 a year, so £702 incoming £4,500 outgoing for each new child, net profit of -£3,798.

Now what you may be hearing is people saying:

"I want another child." Coughed Sindi through a cloud of cigarette smoke as she defecated on her Sky TV remote.

"We can't afford it." Snorted Kevin dribbling beer out of his mouth as he had forgotten to swallow before speaking again.

"It's ok the government will help us out." Replied Sindi before allowing another gentleman caller to shoot his load on her heavily tattooed, milk drained, saggy excuses for what were once pert breasts.

That is a very different attitude, not the correct one, but still a very different attitude to, "I will get more money if I have a baby".

So either the "chav"s you consort with are the most monumentally stupid, illiterate and innumerate fvckwits that could ever be imagined, or they are taking you for a ride and playing up to your already prejudicial views of these "scummy chav cvnts".

This is of course not taking into account council housing allocation and the greater chance to get a house for single mothers and so people deliberately get pregnant to get a council house, but this is another outdated myth, and not really taken into account in your original post which was that people are being paid by the government for having kids.

[Bellend Sebastian]

Since we had a kid I've been laughing all the way to the bank. The child benefit we receive pays for two tubs of milk formula a week. The fact that he probably has between two and a half or three in that time is neither here nor there, I'm quids in

[Zingari]

I said this a few pages back

' Military Industrial Complex ' & Filtering and shaping the most intelligent

sorry i missed it

[MooseBreath]

Having kids doesn't just give you child benefit, that's the least of it, you also get a free house and a reasonable excuse not to have to look for work. It offers people a way into a comfortable lifestyle without having to work for it.

[Jaspa]

Having kids doesn't just give you child benefit, that's the least of it, you also get a free house and a reasonable excuse not to have to look for work. It offers people a way into a comfortable lifestyle without having to work for it.

Having a child sounds like a piece of pi$$

Ahaaaa . . . . .

[Captain...]

Having kids doesn't just give you child benefit, that's the least of it, you also get a free house and a reasonable excuse not to have to look for work. It offers people a way into a comfortable lifestyle without having to work for it.

You do not get a free house, the only thing free you get is the afterbirth, and you can't live in that.

[MooseBreath]

You do not get a free house, the only thing free you get is the afterbirth, and you can't live in that.

You get housing benefit which is basically a free house. Ultimately a young chav couple only needs to have a baby and they will have all of their food, drink, cigarettes and accommodation paid for.

[MooseBreath]

Having a child sounds like a piece of pi$$

Ahaaaa . . . . .

It's difficult. So what? How does that justify paying people to have them? If you're not fit to raise a child, don't have a child.

[Captain...]

You get housing benefit which is basically a free house. Ultimately a young chav couple only needs to have a baby and they will have all of their food, drink, cigarettes and accommodation paid for.

But a young chav couple without a baby is also entitled to all of those benefits less £13 a week child benefit, but no extra mouth to feed, so why on earth would they have a baby?

[Jaspa]

It's difficult. So what? How does that justify paying people to have them? If you're not fit to raise a child, don't have a child.

Your sounding abit like Jeremy Kyle now

Next you'l be shouting out ' Im not from this planet ' three times a day

I wasn't even trying to engage you, its just your basic skipping over how much real commitment and effort can go into raising a child obviously

Your starting to act like caged prey biting at anything that goes by

Chill

[MooseBreath]

Don't expect me to know the ins and outs of the benefit system. All I know is a lot of these chavvy scum have never had a job and yet they're living in houses bigger than me. I tried to get housing benefit when I was on a lower income and guess what? No chance. Yet if I'd have knocked up some slag I'd have been given enough to afford a comfortable two bed. Better yet if I'd have quit my job i'd have been marginally better off in terms of disposable income and I'd also have had all dat every day to swan around getting pissed up down the local. You liberals might wank yourselves crazy over the really virtuous stances you take up but the people who think you are helping have your pants down and are laughing at your tiny shriveled excuse for a penis while they neck another can of special brew. I could have done that too, but thankfully there are still some people around who believe in an honest days work for an honest days pay, and if you're not willing to hold up your end of a fair bargain like that, then don't expect any sympathy when you wind up in the gutter, because that's exactly where you belong. There's far too many soft fools in this country who don't realise that they're not actually helping anybody, they're just making it worse.

[Captain...]

You're problem is you see people getting something for nothing, being helped through the state funded by those that are more fortunate, you see other people getting something and you think you should be entitled to it to, or that they shouldn't have because they don't work as much as you, or in as good a job as you.

Don't expect me to know the ins and outs of the benefit system. All I know is a lot of these chavvy scum have never had a job and yet they're living in houses bigger than me. I tried to get housing benefit when I was on a lower income and guess what? No chance. Yet if I'd have knocked up some slag I'd have been given enough to afford a comfortable two bed. Better yet if I'd have quit my job i'd have been marginally better off in terms of disposable income and I'd also have had all dat every day to swan around getting pissed up down the local. You liberals might wank yourselves crazy over the really virtuous stances you take up but the people who think you are helping have your pants down and are laughing at your tiny shriveled excuse for a penis while they neck another can of special brew. I could have done that too, but thankfully there are still some people around who believe in an honest days work for an honest days pay, and if you're not willing to hold up your end of a fair bargain like that, then don't expect any sympathy when you wind up in the gutter, because that's exactly where you belong. There's far too many soft fools in this country who don't realise that they're not actually helping anybody, they're just making it worse.

[21st Century Fox]

Talking of spongers who breed amongst themselves....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/datablog/interactive/2012/may/30/queen-elizabeth-diamond-jubilee-interactive

[I am Rod Hull]

Talking of spongers who breed amongst themselves....

http://www.guardian....lee-interactive

Worth every penny.

[21st Century Fox]