Carl the Llama Posted 22 October 2012 Posted 22 October 2012 What's the point of walking poles? Specifically, the "benefits" part. What's the point of having the first sentence and bullet point 6 on page 119 of FIFA's Laws of the Game (pdf file): "These are circumstances where a player must be cautioned for unsporting behaviour , e.g. if a player: ... ... ... attempts to deceive the referee by feigning injury or pretending to have been fouled (simulation)." (emphasis added for effect, cautioned=yellow carded) When referees almost never apply that rule? Same can be said about many things on that list.
Alf Bentley Posted 23 October 2012 Posted 23 October 2012 I was talking to Carl (owner of rockaboom) the other day about how little stock he had as i usualy spend about £60 in there at least twice a month. he said that nobody is spending any money at the momment. He said that all of the shops in St Martins are struggling at the present. And he's not able to afford to keep the stock high untill he gets more sales.. catch 22 really. havent seen his assistant Andy in there for a long while either. plus I said his second hand stuff is stupidly over priced. Surely a £5 in the hand is better than a £10 on the shelf. he said he'd think about it. But he will also order anything you wish and I think his prices are sometimes better than Amazon you just have to know what your after.. Thanks for the info. In fact, I think his 2nd hand stuff is often well priced - provided you're not looking for something specific (has a lot of good old stuff under £5) and £10 for a 1st hand, new issue CD is not bad. Quite happy to pay that if it's something I know that I want. His low stock is quite understandable, too, though I must say that I've asked him about things not on the shelves a couple of times and he's not offered to order them in, only said that it would be a few weeks before they had another delivery from that supplier. I'll try to order next time, as I really wouldn't want that place to disappear - quite happy even to play a small amount extra than Amazon to keep it open.
Captain... Posted 23 October 2012 Posted 23 October 2012 It's frustrating, I'm the same. I like to buy my books/music/dvd's/records from local shops and places like Rockaboom in town to support local businesses but it's impossible when you see what they have to charge compared to Amazon. But to continue the theme... ...what is the point? What is the point in going to a shop, independent or high street chain in the hope that they will have what you are looking for and paying over the odds for it when you can get it cheaper online? Playing devil's advocate here a little...
MooseBreath Posted 23 October 2012 Posted 23 October 2012 But to continue the theme... ...what is the point? What is the point in going to a shop, independent or high street chain in the hope that they will have what you are looking for and paying over the odds for it when you can get it cheaper online? Playing devil's advocate here a little... To support your local economy and thus reap the benefits from it being successful... Maybe you're not actually paying over the odds if you consider what else you are getting for your money.
Alf Bentley Posted 23 October 2012 Posted 23 October 2012 But to continue the theme... ...what is the point? What is the point in going to a shop, independent or high street chain in the hope that they will have what you are looking for and paying over the odds for it when you can get it cheaper online? Playing devil's advocate here a little... Arguments wouldn't necessarily apply to many high-street chains, but re. independent record shops: 1) Opens your mind: you might hear or see something you weren't looking for, but that turns out to be brilliant (has happened to me and many others frequently). 2) A more sociable experience: you might get talking to someone like-minded or with interesting ideas/suggestions (only occasionally, I admit) 3) You can sometimes get better deals there (Rockaboom v. Amazon, maybe not E-Bay if price is the be-all & end-all) 4) The bloke at Rockaboom probably pays some taxes to this country and spends money in the local economy (possibly keeping a few cannabis dealers and purveyors of piercings in business, to stereotype!), unlike many mega-corporations like Amazon, which seem to base their corporations in low-tax countries to avoid UK tax and whose executives probably spend their money at Eton and Klosters, and in the Bahamas or gated communities in Mayfair (no wealth envy here, honest!) 5) You get some exercise and fresh air walking to the shop, instead of being a pasty-faced billy-no-mates geek sat at home in front of Amazon or Foxes Talk....Oh No! I've got that one wrong on so many levels!
Captain... Posted 23 October 2012 Posted 23 October 2012 To support your local economy and thus reap the benefits from it being successful... Maybe you're not actually paying over the odds if you consider what else you are getting for your money. ...but what is the point of supporting the local economy? I appreciate that Amazon pay fvck all tax, but in theory, what is the point of paying high rent on a small to medium sized retail units, employing people to lay out stock, serve customers, keep it clean, keep it tidy, physically make financial transactions, when all of this can be done very cheaply and fully automated through a website. with cost benefits passed onto the consumer, surely that is a capitalists dream. The only downside is waiting for delivery, although in the case of music, DVDs, books and games, these can be bought electronically and downloaded directly and instantly. So what is the point in Rock-a-boom, for example. (Still playing devil's advocate here, and I have shelled out many a pound in there.)
Captain... Posted 23 October 2012 Posted 23 October 2012 Arguments wouldn't necessarily apply to many high-street chains, but re. independent record shops: 1) Opens your mind: you might hear or see something you weren't looking for, but that turns out to be brilliant (has happened to me and many others frequently). 2) A more sociable experience: you might get talking to someone like-minded or with interesting ideas/suggestions (only occasionally, I admit) 3) You can sometimes get better deals there (Rockaboom v. Amazon, maybe not E-Bay if price is the be-all & end-all) 4) The bloke at Rockaboom probably pays some taxes to this country and spends money in the local economy (possibly keeping a few cannabis dealers and purveyors of piercings in business, to stereotype!), unlike many mega-corporations like Amazon, which seem to base their corporations in low-tax countries to avoid UK tax and whose executives probably spend their money at Eton and Klosters, and in the Bahamas or gated communities in Mayfair (no wealth envy here, honest!) 5) You get some exercise and fresh air walking to the shop, instead of being a pasty-faced billy-no-mates geek sat at home in front of Amazon or Foxes Talk....Oh No! I've got that one wrong on so many levels! 1) Never happened to me, but then there is plenty of ways to hear new music on-line. 2) Don't really talk to strangers in record stores, my mummy taught me well, but there are much more places on-line to freely discuss music, and I tend to do that kind of stuff down the pub with my mates too. 3) Not been in Rock-a-boom for a while, as I'm not in Leicester much, but I find that hard to believe, don't forget Amazon has a very extensive second hand section. 4) What is the point in trying to keep things in the local economy, in the end it will end up going to some big corporation and get funnelled off shore for tax purposes, you might as well see the benefit of those savings. Not all online retails are tax dodging scumbags, but yes Amazon are particularly bad, but when the only places you look for something charge exorbitant amounts for something that you can get for free online (illegally, but easily) or can purchase from Amazon for half the price, it is very hard to see the point. 5) You get wet walking to the shops
Zingari Posted 23 October 2012 Posted 23 October 2012 What's the point of no return ? 15 love 30 love 40 love game
MooseBreath Posted 23 October 2012 Posted 23 October 2012 ...but what is the point of supporting the local economy? I appreciate that Amazon pay fvck all tax, but in theory, what is the point of paying high rent on a small to medium sized retail units, employing people to lay out stock, serve customers, keep it clean, keep it tidy, physically make financial transactions, when all of this can be done very cheaply and fully automated through a website. with cost benefits passed onto the consumer, surely that is a capitalists dream. The only downside is waiting for delivery, although in the case of music, DVDs, books and games, these can be bought electronically and downloaded directly and instantly. So what is the point in Rock-a-boom, for example. (Still playing devil's advocate here, and I have shelled out many a pound in there.) Because if everyone in the local economy spends their money elsewhere then soon there will be no money left, and that will lead to no investment, no jobs, increasing crime etc Personally I don't make any effort to buy local, so I am probably playing devils advocate too. Isn't this fun
Captain... Posted 23 October 2012 Posted 23 October 2012 Because if everyone in the local economy spends their money elsewhere then soon there will be no money left, and that will lead to no investment, no jobs, increasing crime etc Personally I don't make any effort to buy local, so I am probably playing devils advocate too. Isn't this fun Lots of fun, especially as I do try and spend my money locally. I'm just wondering at what point we do away with city centres and high street shops, we start dismantling our established way of life as technology changes to the point where going to the shops becomes almost redundant, huge warehouses spring up on the edge of the cities and all we need is delivered to the door, Obviously there will still be some high street shops, I still can't see clothes shopping online taking off, until we can accurately map our body types, and build 3-D models of our selves and try on clothes virtually in an accurate manner, and then when women realise they can mix and match, and try on all kinds of clothes at the touch of a button, accessorise from their own collection and compare different dresses at the touch of a button, it will take off. All they have to do for it to work is be honest about their dress size... ...it'll never work.
MooseBreath Posted 23 October 2012 Posted 23 October 2012 I think quite a few people, for some reason, enjoy going for a walk around town to do their shopping. Go into any city centre on a Saturday and it's packed full of people buying things they could have bought online cheaper. They seem to enjoy the atmosphere and stop off to have food and drink in cafe's and restaurants. While people still like doing that there will still be shops there to serve them.
Finnegan Posted 23 October 2012 Posted 23 October 2012 It's not even just the atmosphere, it's the convenience. Often I go to town because I want something NOW, not in a week's time. Also, as a full time worker who doesn't drive (and whose royal mail depot is miles away) I find ordering anything large off the internet often a bit of a ballache. Much simpler to just go in to town.
21st Century Fox Posted 23 October 2012 Posted 23 October 2012 Lots of fun, especially as I do try and spend my money locally. I'm just wondering at what point we do away with city centres and high street shops, we start dismantling our established way of life as technology changes to the point where going to the shops becomes almost redundant, huge warehouses spring up on the edge of the cities and all we need is delivered to the door, Obviously there will still be some high street shops, I still can't see clothes shopping online taking off, until we can accurately map our body types, and build 3-D models of our selves and try on clothes virtually in an accurate manner, and then when women realise they can mix and match, and try on all kinds of clothes at the touch of a button, accessorise from their own collection and compare different dresses at the touch of a button, it will take off. All they have to do for it to work is be honest about their dress size... ...it'll never work. That will happen, when I was at uni we went another uni in New Jersey (whose name totally escapes me now) and they were working on something like that. They were also making paper that could project sound, it was amazing, you could roll it into a cone shape and make it into a speaker... unfortunately it'll probably end up being used for product packaging.
Alf Bentley Posted 23 October 2012 Posted 23 October 2012 1) Never happened to me, but then there is plenty of ways to hear new music on-line. 2) Don't really talk to strangers in record stores, my mummy taught me well, but there are much more places on-line to freely discuss music, and I tend to do that kind of stuff down the pub with my mates too. 3) Not been in Rock-a-boom for a while, as I'm not in Leicester much, but I find that hard to believe, don't forget Amazon has a very extensive second hand section. 4) What is the point in trying to keep things in the local economy, in the end it will end up going to some big corporation and get funnelled off shore for tax purposes, you might as well see the benefit of those savings. Not all online retails are tax dodging scumbags, but yes Amazon are particularly bad, but when the only places you look for something charge exorbitant amounts for something that you can get for free online (illegally, but easily) or can purchase from Amazon for half the price, it is very hard to see the point. 5) You get wet walking to the shops You are not the devil's advocate, you are the devil incarnate....get thee behind me, Satan!
Bayfox Posted 23 October 2012 Posted 23 October 2012 What's the point of having a roof over your stadium then not bothering to close it? What's the point of having a "tele-conference" with only 2 people. Surely thats a conversation? What's the point of Alan Green? I would say the same for Ian Stringer What's the point of Twitter? What's the point of cats? So they can Sh!t in my Garden, dirty fcukers. What's the point of religion? So there is a reason for War.
Captain... Posted 23 October 2012 Posted 23 October 2012 You are not the devil's advocate, you are the devil incarnate....get thee behind me, Satan! And what would you like me to do from there...
Alf Bentley Posted 23 October 2012 Posted 23 October 2012 And what would you like me to do from there... No thanks! I'm a virgin (but not Jesus' mother).
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