Milwall Away Post Match 1-0 Loss!

[Dan]

We have honestly played some outstanding football this season. Yes, today seems to be have been an opportunity missed, but the way we play then occasionally we will get bullied.

I agree to an extent maybe changes should be made earlier in some games but DD & King have been outstanding thus far this year and it would be harsh to drop one. Physically we are fine, and Pearson's just said it too. It's when teams play dierectly against us we struggle.

There's no point just saying i want this physical player or that. We'd have 11 non footballing monsters if it was down to some idiots.

We need to work on winning some second balls against sides that do play directly, and playing with the tempo that we do more often that not.

We're not a million miles away.

Very good post this, can't stand the idea of having a pure physical non-footballing side. That Trotter impressed me yet again, looks a physical player who can actually play a bit, if we signed him & Wood we'd be laughing.

[Dan]

It's interesting that at the start of the season most fans thought we'd be lucky to make the play-offs, but now we're 5th and it's not good enough for a lot of people. The good run has raised expectations, but I hope and think most people will realise that since we haven't even been close to the play-offs for two years a return to the managerial merry-go-round is the last thing we need. Especially since we're constructing a side that is not only good enough to compete for the play-offs, but that is young and in another three or four years could be a solid Premier League side.

Our fans are utter spoilt brats and I think that's why our away 'support' is so dire these days. Expectation is fvcking killing us I swear.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

We were not good enough yesterday according to people who went, however still 5th and not a bad season so far. Up the Foxes

[chrishlcfc]

Yesterday, unfortunately went exactly how i thought it might go, we got completely overpowered and out battled by a tough physical side, who don't really play any decent football. We were the only team, that tried to play, but we just couldn't get going, and unfortunately reverted to a lot of long balls that danny shittu and the millwall defence dealt with all day long.

I'm not necessarily trying to criticise the team but as i have felt this for a long time, andy king is to weak in our midfield alongside drinkwater and he also goes missing for long periods of games, so i feel that a change is needed in midfield.

[Dan]

Just did something and the result of it is absolutely alarming - checked our points per game without St Ledger and multiplied it by 22 (number of games played), we'd be 18th.

What the actual fvck.

[kingfox]

Just did something and the result of it is absolutely alarming - checked our points per game without St Ledger and multiplied it by 22 (number of games played), we'd be 18th.

What the actual fvck.

Oh dear.

Sean St Ledger is the man

[marbelladave]

I found yesterdays game to be very disappointing, so much so that this is my first post since getting home just after 6.00 pm.

I was actually a bit pissed off, not because we lost or because we were outplayed in midfield but because several of our players seemed not to be up to the fight, not competing and in a couple of cases actually shirking tackles.

I usually find positive things to say about our players, even when we lose, but yesterday.........

[5waller5]

Just did something and the result of it is absolutely alarming - checked our points per game without St Ledger and multiplied it by 22 (number of games played), we'd be 18th.

What the actual fvck.

And yet St Ledger is not only a Sven signing but not even a particularly well thought of one ..... It proves a different thing to me - that we always needed to replace Bamba and Mills and have at least one more QUALITY central defender. We sold a couple of great options and didn't replace. It was obvious in pre-season that we are a decent player short in each department .... but when we were on form noone would listen - the season was always going to have to endure injuries and suspensions and losses of form and this is what we are experiencing now.

[Mark_w]

And yet St Ledger is not only a Sven signing but not even a particularly well thought of one ..... It proves a different thing to me - that we always needed to replace Bamba and Mills and have at least one more QUALITY central defender. We sold a couple of great options and didn't replace. It was obvious in pre-season that we are a decent player short in each department .... but when we were on form noone would listen - the season was always going to have to endure injuries and suspensions and losses of form and this is what we are experiencing now.

Our defence was a lot worse when our back-line included Mills and Bamba instead of Morgan and Whitbread last year, so I don't know how you've managed to work that one out.

[Guest Col city fan]

Our defence was a lot worse when our back-line included Mills and Bamba instead of Morgan and Whitbread last year, so I don't know how you've managed to work that one out.

Was it statistically?

I don't know?

We seem to have conceded quite a few goals away from home this season?

[Mark_w]

Was it statistically?

I don't know?

We seem to have conceded quite a few goals away from home this season?

We've conceded 21 about half way through the season so far, last year we conceded 55 goals across the whole season. So yes we've got a much better record at the back so far this season. We've scored 37 so far at the half way point and last year we scored 66 over the course of the season. So we're on course to do better than last year in both departments.

[Guest Col city fan]

We've conceded 21 about half way through the season so far, last year we conceded 55 goals across the whole season. So yes we've got a much better record at the back so far this season. We've scored 37 so far at the half way point and last year we scored 66 over the course of the season. So we're on course to do better than last year in both departments.

Cheers

[Dan]

And yet St Ledger is not only a Sven signing but not even a particularly well thought of one ..... It proves a different thing to me - that we always needed to replace Bamba and Mills and have at least one more QUALITY central defender. We sold a couple of great options and didn't replace. It was obvious in pre-season that we are a decent player short in each department .... but when we were on form noone would listen - the season was always going to have to endure injuries and suspensions and losses of form and this is what we are experiencing now.

I was never a big SSL fan but he's won me over this season. I think it's harsh on the likes of Whitbread to use stats to defeat his performances over the basis of 5 games, but that's actually quite alarming.

How we'd have done in those games with Whitbread is something we'll never know but like I say, shows how vital that run was.

[Bettsj2]

I was never a big SSL fan but he's won me over this season. I think it's harsh on the likes of Whitbread to use stats to defeat his performances over the basis of 5 games, but that's actually quite alarming.

How we'd have done in those games with Whitbread is something we'll never know but like I say, shows how vital that run was.

SSL has won you over this season? He's played about 10 minutes.

[Mark_w]

Cheers

For the record purely in terms of goals conceded we're on course to just about match Reading's total last year, in terms of goals scored we're set to exceed their total. Obviously that's fairly meaningless but I thought it was interesting, and for those who have given up on Automatic-Promotion they were 7th at this stage last season and 10 points off second place, so there's no need to go all doom and gloom yet.

[Fox92]

St Ledger has always been a good defender at this level, I've always liked him. Technically gifted for a centre half as well. Just wish he was in our back four with Morgan again.

[Father Ted]

The Whitbread vs St Ledger debate certainly is an interesting one... particularly as I like both of them.

Personally, I feel that Whitbread has a greater presence about him, he's very dominant in the air and can bully strikers when he's up to the task but seriously lacks in pace and has a habit of giving away silly free kicks. Distribution is not too great either, not seen many players with squarer feet than his.

St Ledger's distribution is much better though and allows us to play the free flowing attacking football that we did earlier in the season rather than lumping it long every single time. He's faster than Whitbread too, which is particularly handy when Konch is at left back.

I feel that both could be suited to different types of games. Although, in no way whatsoever would I play Whitbread and Konchesky at the same time ever again. On the whole though, perhaps we need to look more to our midfielders and attackers because we don't have the best defensive record for no reason. But then again, we did the season we went down too and that was when we had two centre backs in Kisnorbo and McAuley who were clueless with the ball at their feet.

[Phil Bertstreet]

The recent dropped points have been nothing to do with Whitbread playing instead of St Leger. Fair enough Whitbread was shaky to start with. Didn't look match fit to me. But he has been up there for MoM in the last 5 ish games (I didn't go yesterday before anyone asks). The dropped points (apart from Kasper's howler against Barnsley) are down to being outplayed in midfield as far as I can see. At Leeds (a game we should have won) would have been 0-0 apart from the pen. Only saw the goal on TV yesterday and was that Whitbread's fault? So unless St Leger plays in midfield I'm not really sure how he will improve things.

[Bettsj2]

The recent dropped points have been nothing to do with Whitbread playing instead of St Leger. Fair enough Whitbread was shaky to start with. Didn't look match fit to me. But he has been up there for MoM in the last 5 ish games (I didn't go yesterday before anyone asks). The dropped points (apart from Kasper's howler against Barnsley) are down to being outplayed in midfield as far as I can see. At Leeds (a game we should have won) would have been 0-0 apart from the pen. Only saw the goal on TV yesterday and was that Whitbread's fault? So unless St Leger plays in midfield I'm not really sure how he will improve things.

THIS

We managed to lose games with SSL in the side too. If we had an unbelievably clinical striker, we'd still be in the top two. Whilst he's in the form he's in Waghorn needs to play with Nugent but if a striker was out there that can match Waggy's workrate, equal his attitude but double his goal tally, get him in. Unfortunately they dont grow on trees.

[_Fatboyslow_]

All I would like to say is despite last weeks fiasco and a defeat at Milwall nevers sits well we are in much better shape than this time last year.

Merry Xmas every one

[Freeman's Wharfer]

Awful performance.

Millwall turned that match into a battle and we were found wanting which is very disappointing. Fair enough losing to a superior side in terms of ability but losing out in terms of effort, bottle and commitment is not acceptable. And it was to be expected, that's how they've got to where they are. Too many times did I see toes dangled or people pulling out of challenges. They wanted it more and got their reward.

We turned up with a misfound arrogance. Yes we are a better footballing side but no-one seemed to realise that Millwall weren't going to let us play our game so easy. Every time a Leicester player got the ball a Millwall player was in his face, harrying him and not giving him the time to play. When that happened none of them had the courage to impose our game on them and out-wit, out-smart them.

Things quickly therefore descended into a long ball farce, a scrap and with Shittu against Vardy and/or Nugent (who is so obviously reluctant to challenge for headers with his dodgy neck) there was only ever going to be one winner. Why the hell no-one thought when resorting to long ball to at least stick it on Shittu's partner the other side I don't know, we made him look like the best centre half in the world and it was so easy for him. A little thought/consideration please.

And why it took so long for someone (Futacs) who might be able to half cope with an aerial battle to be put on I also don't know. There's clearly something about Futacs that makes Pearson reluctant to use him.

I can't think of a single positive from that...

Vardy looked out of his depth. Awful touch and an absolute passenger, how did he last the 90 minutes?

Schmeichel, what has happened to your kicking? He's gone from assured, composed and measured to a raving lunatic, rushing around and shanking things into touch.

Drinkwater displayed the glaring inconsistencies that mean he's not good enough to play that holding role in a promotion winning side. A big, commanding, horrible b*stard in January please, and one who won't misplace three easy passes a game.

I'm a massive Pearson fan and have always backed him but he got it wrong yesterday. I wasn't one calling for a change pre-match but when it was so obviously descending into the farce that it was then we either needed to have the courage to get on the ball and play our game regardless or to adapt to enable us to be more competitive in such a battle. Didn't agree with his substitutions either; Knockaert and Dyer, two who can create something out of nothing, both withdrawn when we needed a goal. Too little changed, too late.

Very frustrating all in all.

[Guest foxestalkisfullofidiots]

Our fans are the biggest bunch of spoilt brats I have ever heard. Literally ashamed to be associated with some of you.

[Guest foxestalkisfullofidiots]

Totally agree, no side in the championship is going to win every game your going to have bad games, look at Cardiff, won 10 home games on the trot and then get played off the park by the team that are bottom. We will beat Cardiff next week and then we will be best team in the championship, pearson is amazing and our midfield is so strong!

[unreachable]

The recent dropped points have been nothing to do with Whitbread playing instead of St Leger. Fair enough Whitbread was shaky to start with. Didn't look match fit to me. But he has been up there for MoM in the last 5 ish games (I didn't go yesterday before anyone asks). The dropped points (apart from Kasper's howler against Barnsley) are down to being outplayed in midfield as far as I can see. At Leeds (a game we should have won) would have been 0-0 apart from the pen. Only saw the goal on TV yesterday and was that Whitbread's fault? So unless St Leger plays in midfield I'm not really sure how he will improve things.

Points were not dropped yesterday but simply not earned. Your concept and view of LCFC is typical of the arrogance of so many fans who think we deserve this and that. We were beaten by the better side - I was there. Millwall were not physical but tough as I wish we had been in this performance.

[Phil Bertstreet]

Points were not dropped yesterday but simply not earned. Your concept and view of LCFC is typical of the arrogance of so many fans who think we deserve this and that. We were beaten by the better side - I was there. Millwall were not physical but tough as I wish we had been in this performance.

Read my post again. I didn't comment on yesterday's game cos I wasn't there. Where did I say we deserved any better? I did and still say we should have beaten Barnsley and but for a penalty we should have had a draw at Leeds.

If you wish to be pedantic about me saying recent points dropped go ahead, but the point of the post was to try and negate some of the idiotic posts berating a player who has played very well recently, not to suggest LCFC deserved more from yesterday.