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The Good News thread, local jobs, economy etc

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leicsmac

leicsmac

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http://m.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-29310475

Capitalism doing what it does best, providing an otherwise impossible level of power behind a charge towards a better world. We're on the cusp of the renewables revolution.

 

Wow - hyperbole much Mr Rand?

 

Speaking of the article itself though, it's good to see much more investment in renewables from people with the money to do so. Hopefully it can be used well rather than being purely cosmetic, only time is going to tell on that one.

 

Fusion power is going to be the big energy breakthrough of this century. Still think it's the only thing that can meet the increasing demands, unless renewable tech gets much more efficient much more quickly.

MooseBreath

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Wow - hyperbole much Mr Rand?

Speaking of the article itself though, it's good to see much more investment in renewables from people with the money to do so. Hopefully it can be used well rather than being purely cosmetic, only time is going to tell on that one.

Fusion power is going to be the big energy breakthrough of this century. Still think it's the only thing that can meet the increasing demands, unless renewable tech gets much more efficient much more quickly .

Which it is doing, and will continue to do, now that the investment return from renewables is starting to look favourable in comparison to fossil fuels. There was always going to be a tipping point, where renewables became better value, and therefore all the capital started pouring in, rapidly accelerating the pace of development. I believe we're now at that point, and the next ten years will see a massive drive towards solar, wind, tidal etc. all over the world, which will only gather more and more pace as the tech rapidly becomes more efficient. This time in ten years the world will be ran on 80% renewable energy, and that for me is a revolution. Another one for which Capitalism will be able to take the credit. Edited by MooseBreath
leicsmac

leicsmac

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Which it is doing, and will continue to do, now that the investment return from renewables is starting to look favourable in comparison to fossil fuels. There was always going to be a tipping point, where renewables became better value, and therefore all the capital started pouring in, rapidly accelerating the pace of development. I believe we're now at that point, and the next ten years will see a massive drive towards solar, wind, tidal etc. all over the world, which will only gather more and more pace as the tech rapidly becomes more efficient. This time in ten years the world will be ran on 80% renewable energy, and that for me is a revolution. Another one for which Capitalism will be able to take the credit.

 

I hope you're right, because if you are the whole world will benefit. We'll find out soon enough.

 

Now how about that asteroid mining?

ADK

ADK

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Lots of low end capacity is flooding into the jobs market at present, these are people who were paid to stay at home and get pissed by labour, but are now having to find work. Hundreds of thousands of them, and they're almost all completely unskilled, so are only going to get low productivity, low paid jobs. This brings both productivity and wage averages down.

Meanwhile a lot of these people have had a 1% pay rise through pension auto-enrolment, which when taken into account alongside wage growth figures means they are actually increasing faster than inflation already. I'd bet a good few Vietnamese dong that salaries over say £25k have been thrashing inflation for the last 18 months or so.

The remaining productivity puzzle is surely due to awful practices in education and welfare giveaways under labour. You tell a whole generation that you'll give them easy good grades for doing pointless education courses and then pay for them to be down the boozer all day everyday, then who the hell is surprised when a lot of them turn out to be pretty unproductive people?

 

Productivity includes the unemployed so your first sentence cannot be correct. Also it has nothing to do with wages. I agree partially with the third sentence although it is down to poor running of the state education system.

Webbo

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Well if "leftfoot forward" are reporting that a union claims the figures on tax evasion are wrong then that must be true. It's not like they've got an axe to grind or anything.

Guest MattP

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according to a new report for the Public & Commercial Services union launched at the Labour Party conference in Manchester

 

lol lol

Webbo

Webbo

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Its not like the right have an agenda for not publishing stats that may prove that they are capable of making a mistake or anything.

It's not a stat it's a claim.

Rincewind

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Not another claim, friggin scroungers.

What he means is, When it is the left saying it, it is a claim and when it is the right saying it,, it is a fact. And that's a fact. Or a claim. :)

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Webbo

Webbo

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What he means is, When it is the left saying it, it is a claim and when it is the right saying it,, it is a fact. And that's a fact. Or a claim. :)

So the Office of National Statistics who have access to govt figures and have a requirement to be neutral are lying and a left-wing pressure group whose interest it is to spread propaganda is scrupulously honest?

If you read the date at the top of the Daily Mail you claim it's Tory propaganda and yet some half baked blog,as long as it matches your prejudice, is telling the truth? Okay Ken, if it makes you feel good about yourself, you keep telling yourself that.

J.Lisemore

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Number of people claiming JSA drops below 1million. A quite phenomenal effort given it was over 1.6million in August 2011.

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/record-drop-in-unemployment-and-more-people-in-private-sector-jobs

 

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Source: Office for National Statistics, Department for Work and Pensions

Secretary of State for Work and Pensions Iain Duncan Smith said:

Today’s figures also show a continued growth in private sector employment – up by almost 800,000 in the last year alone. Compared to 2010 there are now over 2.16 million more people in private sector jobs – showing that the government’s long-term economic plan to create jobs by backing businesses is working.

Creating jobs is central to building a stronger, more resilient and stable economy. With millions more people in private sector employment under this government, it is clear that our long-term economic plan is helping Britain to recover following one of the deepest recessions in living memory.

All of our reforms are focused on helping people off benefits and into work – giving people the peace of mind and security that comes with a steady income. With the number of people claiming the main unemployment benefit down below 1 million for the first time in 6 years, we are helping people to break free from welfare dependency, look after themselves and their families, and play their part in getting our country back to work.

Unemployment saw the largest annual fall in 26 years, dropping by 468,000, which brings the unemployment rate to a new 6-year low of 6.2%. The employment rate, at 73%, is also back up to the level seen before the recession with 30.61 million people in work.

The number claiming (JSA) has been falling for the last 22 months – with 423,600 fewer claimants than a year ago – and is now below 1 million for the first time since 2008.

Young people saw the largest annual fall in unemployment since records began in 1984 – falling by 213,000 on the year – and has been dropping for the last year. There are now fewer young people claiming the main unemployment benefit (JSA) than just before the recession – having dropped by 133,200 in the past year and for 33 months in a row.

Schemes like the government’s Work Programme have contributed to the largest drop in long-term unemployment since 1998 – falling by 175,000 on the year.

 

Those bloody Tories, gettting people off the dole, finding people jobs etc. :ph34r:

 

Overall, its brilliant that the economy seems to be getting back on track, but in my eyes, hardly any credit should go to the Job Centre. Thankfully I'm now in full-time employment and fended for myself but just a word of warning to anybody that is currently job seeking, If your looking for help or guidance into getting back into full-time work, the JC is appalling. For me, it wasn't about the money, I wanted help to find a job and received nothing. Maybe I've got the wrong end of the stick and its just a place to pick up your financial support, but I expected better myself.

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leicsmac

leicsmac

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Overall, its brilliant that the economy seems to be getting back on track, but in my eyes, hardly any credit should go to the Job Centre. Thankfully I'm now in full-time employment and fended for myself but just a word of warning to anybody that is currently job seeking, If your looking for help or guidance into getting back into full-time work, the JC is appalling. For me, it wasn't about the money, I wanted help to find a job and received nothing. Maybe I've got the wrong end of the stick and its just a place to pick up your financial support, but I expected better myself.

 

This sadly tallies with my experience of the place.

 

If you're in any way qualified there's next to no guidance or useful advice to be had there at all. Much better off looking on your own.

Alf Bentley

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Overall, its brilliant that the economy seems to be getting back on track, but in my eyes, hardly any credit should go to the Job Centre. Thankfully I'm now in full-time employment and fended for myself but just a word of warning to anybody that is currently job seeking, If your looking for help or guidance into getting back into full-time work, the JC is appalling. For me, it wasn't about the money, I wanted help to find a job and received nothing. Maybe I've got the wrong end of the stick and its just a place to pick up your financial support, but I expected better myself.

 

I've ended up sporadically helping my nephew to deal with unemployment over the last 12-18 months - and your comments tally with his experience. He's a young man who wants to work and had been in employment almost continuously for about 5 years from school until losing a job about 18 months ago. Although bright enough, he can be a bit clueless in terms of worldliness. All he needed was a bit of guidance and support to go about searching and applying in the right way and to be a bit more flexible in his thinking.....but that doesn't seem to be something that Jobcentres do any more. From him, my impression is that they mostly just fulfil 2 functions: doling out benefits, and trying to trip people up so that they can disqualify them from benefits (sometimes on spurious grounds), often causing great stress within the extended family.

 

Thankfully, my nephew now has temporary work for a month or two - and a decent prospect of long-term employment (though I'll only believe that when it happens). He found these job opportunities himself, not via the Jobcentre, needless to say.

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Rincewind

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This sadly tallies with my experience of the place.

 

If you're in any way qualified there's next to no guidance or useful advice to be had there at all. Much better off looking on your own.

They have even taken the phones out now in some. If you do not look the way they want you to they sanction you. Their job search sites have been infested with scam job ads. But for anyone who has a job this is hard to believe.

Like yourself for the majority of jobseekers who have recently found themselves out of work they find work within a couple of months mostly without the help of those advisers at the JC. The rest have to take low paid part time or zero hourcontract hour work which improves the employment figures. 0.7% are long term unemployed whomay not want to find work or have an illness/disability or learning disability that prevents them from finding an employer willing to take them on.

Guest MattP

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Overall, its brilliant that the economy seems to be getting back on track, but in my eyes, hardly any credit should go to the Job Centre. Thankfully I'm now in full-time employment and fended for myself but just a word of warning to anybody that is currently job seeking, If your looking for help or guidance into getting back into full-time work, the JC is appalling. For me, it wasn't about the money, I wanted help to find a job and received nothing. Maybe I've got the wrong end of the stick and its just a place to pick up your financial support, but I expected better myself.

 

I have very limiited experience of the places but your story is a very common one, heard similar things from family and friends and the staff seem to be absolutely useless, never really helps having things like this really as the staff at these places need people out of work for them to be in work, you can see why they probably wouldn't try too hard when that is the situation.

 

Perhaps we should be giving the government even more credit than we actually seem to be for these figures since the public body that is supposed to help this thing is widely seen as completely useless.

 

I think it's clear the whole jobseeker/jobcentre thing needs completely overhauling but no government will be able to do it as they'll just be accused again of bullying and destroying a 'public service', we really have got ourselves into a terrible situation.

 

 

 

Guest MattP

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They have even taken the phones out now in some. If you do not look the way they want you to they sanction you. Their job search sites have been infested with scam job ads.

 

I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like to see evidence for all this*

 

*Not attending an arranged interview does not count as 'not looking the way they want'

Rincewind

Rincewind

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Imeant their 'official' jobsearch sites which I said have been known to contain fake ads.If a person does not attend an interview because they are attending a family funeral or are in hospital I would have thought it was a reasonable excuse. it has been known for people to call up to rearrange but it has not been logged. But i agree that it is in a mess. Deliberately not attending is not a good excuse but sometimes a little common sense is needed and just looking at a persons previous attendance record will give the adviser some indication of how genuine they are.

It seems they come down hard on the more vulnerable and by that I mean those who may not know how the system works.Those newly unemployed after being in work for many years or those with difficulty with understanding filling in forms.

When I was in hospital a couple of my colleagues had a hell of a time contacting and convincing the JC that I was actually ill and unable to sign on. They wanted to hear it from myself but could not understand that I .

was unable to because I was too ill.

This was when things were a lot easier and it has not improved.

There have been ex job centre staff who have spoken about what goes on from the other side. In fact there is a help page web site run by ex staff that gives advice.Think it is JSSA I can find and post the link if anyone needs it.They do not slag the JC off but explains what can and cannot be done in simple terms and clarifies what is expected as well has giving what the claimants rights are which the staff are not always able to do.

 

I am sure  this is it https://jobseekersanctionadvice.com/ Itis mainly to do with sanctions and how toavoid themThey deal with North East but can answer and advise anyone

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Dan

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Overall, its brilliant that the economy seems to be getting back on track, but in my eyes, hardly any credit should go to the Job Centre. Thankfully I'm now in full-time employment and fended for myself but just a word of warning to anybody that is currently job seeking, If your looking for help or guidance into getting back into full-time work, the JC is appalling. For me, it wasn't about the money, I wanted help to find a job and received nothing. Maybe I've got the wrong end of the stick and its just a place to pick up your financial support, but I expected better myself.

 

The JobCentre are an utter shambles in every sense of the word. The decrease in unemployment is despite them rather than because of them. I'm dealing with them at the minute and it is beyond shit.

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Dan

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I have very limiited experience of the places but your story is a very common one, heard similar things from family and friends and the staff seem to be absolutely useless, never really helps having things like this really as the staff at these places need people out of work for them to be in work, you can see why they probably wouldn't try too hard when that is the situation.

 

Perhaps we should be giving the government even more credit than we actually seem to be for these figures since the public body that is supposed to help this thing is widely seen as completely useless.

 

I think it's clear the whole jobseeker/jobcentre thing needs completely overhauling but no government will be able to do it as they'll just be accused again of bullying and destroying a 'public service', we really have got ourselves into a terrible situation.

 

"A public service" lol anyone who is genuinely content with their service needs their head checking.

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