Guest Foxin_mad Posted 6 August 2013 Posted 6 August 2013 Looking through the match day thread it was actually good that so many were going nuts when we were 1-0 down. A lot of it was over the top but it shows that many still care about what happens to the team. Give me those fans rather than the meek followers who realign their expectations to the party line of mediocrity that the club has. Been spinning in the post Sven era. Are you suggesting that we were better than mediocre during the Sven period surely not? We were the epitimisation of mid table championship dross under Sven. The biggest issues with this is that despite being mediocre; it was also unsustainable with £25000 a week contracts and massive agent and transfer fees for players that were full of averageness like Beckford and Danns. We have been mediocre since Micky Adams was here, its fans like yourself that support mediocrity like Sven Goran Ericksson that keep this club in the doldrums.
BNET Posted 6 August 2013 Posted 6 August 2013 You dumb ass's who blame everything on Sven instead of Pearson, read this and tell me if Pearsons record is better. l am not defending Sven as l thought it was time for a change when he went, but l would have preffered to have kept him on rather than put up with Pearson. A lot of the things your defend Pearson on can be applied to Sven, but you don't, Sven was sacked for a lot less than Pearson should have been sacked for, i.e.. 2 wins in 11 against 3 in 17, probably both sackable. Edited to add that Sven as a better win % than Pearson, only slightly, but he got sacked for it !! Leicester City[edit source | editbeta] He was appointed manager of Leicester City on 3 October 2010 as the Foxes sat in the relegaton zone of theChampionship.[32][33] His first league game in charge resulted in a 1–1 draw against Hull City, managed by Nigel Pearson who had managed Leicester for the previous two seasons. This was quickly followed by Leicester's first victory under Eriksson, beating Leeds 2–1 at Elland Road.[34] Boosted by the loan signings of players such as Kyle Naughton and later Yakubu, results steadily improved under Eriksson as Leicester gradually began to climb the table, until a good run of form in the new year saw Leicester win seven of their first eight league games of 2011[35] and also take Premier League title-challengers and eventual cup-winners Manchester City to a replay in the FA Cup. On 18 February 2011, after an injury-time winner from Martyn Waghornat home to Bristol City, Leicester had climbed to 7th in the table and just one point off a play-off place.[36] However Leicester's form began to stutter as they won just two out of their following 11 games.[35] The Foxes ended up finishing the season in 10th position.[37] Eriksson spent big in a bid for promotion in the summer of 2011, including multi-million pound transfer fees on Matt Mills andJermaine Beckford.[38][39][40] making them pre-season promotion favourites.[38][40][41][42] However, after 13 league matches Eriksson left the club by mutual consent on 25 October 2011 with the Foxes sitting in the 13th position in the league, 2 points from a play-off position.[43]
Guest Foxin_mad Posted 6 August 2013 Posted 6 August 2013 You forget the small issue that Sven spent a considerable amount (circa £20 million) on players that were not much better than we had. Examples Mills<Hobbs, Beckford<Waghorn. Add to that the large contracts and we are in trouble, having see the 3-0 gutless defeat to Millwall there was no way he was going to turn it around at all. When he played with the Pearson/Sousa team he got good results, the moment he started adding his own players things went downhill after the 7 wins in 8. Sven was actually ok a managing someone else's team with perhaps the right mind set, as soon as he started bringing in his overpaid 'stars' we went downhill Bruma and Van-Arnholt were the start of the slide. Also Sven had a major flaw in his trust for Derek Fazerkley who had absolutely no clue about football or tactics.
5waller5 Posted 6 August 2013 Posted 6 August 2013 Oh calm down, it wasn't a serious comment. Good!!!!!
BNET Posted 6 August 2013 Posted 6 August 2013 You forget the small issue that Sven spent a considerable amount (circa £20 million) on players that were not much better than we had. Examples Mills<Hobbs, Beckford<Waghorn. Add to that the large contracts and we are in trouble, having see the 3-0 gutless defeat to Millwall there was no way he was going to turn it around at all. When he played with the Pearson/Sousa team he got good results, the moment he started adding his own players things went downhill after the 7 wins in 8. Sven was actually ok a managing someone else's team with perhaps the right mind set, as soon as he started bringing in his overpaid 'stars' we went downhill Bruma and Van-Arnholt were the start of the slide. Also Sven had a major flaw in his trust for Derek Fazerkley who had absolutely no clue about football or tactics. and Pearson and his mate have tactical awareness ?
5waller5 Posted 6 August 2013 Posted 6 August 2013 And you know what...? We had one heck of a blast without your "input". Let's hope someone else was on hand to keep you in check.
newbie123 Posted 6 August 2013 Posted 6 August 2013 good manager, will get us out of this division... anyone who says anything different is stupid.
Guest Foxin_mad Posted 6 August 2013 Posted 6 August 2013 Only time will tell. But I would rather have the current lot than Mr Dodgy Manc Fazerkley and Sven the Lady's man.
BNET Posted 6 August 2013 Posted 6 August 2013 good manager, will get us out of this division... anyone who says anything different is stupid. Ha Ha !
5waller5 Posted 6 August 2013 Posted 6 August 2013 You mean, with previous, mostly successful loan deals from Manchester United and that particular manager still having massive influence in the game doesn't mean he could make things happen in our favour still? You don't seem to understand the point ... he's retired ..... if this is NP's biggest connection then it's hardly a defense against someone saying he has a lack of connections!!!!! What's the massive influence he has in the game???? As far as i can see he has stepped right back and let Moyes get on with his job unhindered, as I'm sure he'd want. I have a revelation for you .....You don't HAVE to argue every point made on here.
Babylon Posted 6 August 2013 Posted 6 August 2013 What possible use is that particular contact to a current manager now? It's a very poor answer to "he has no contacts" .... "yes he does, a retired premier league manager!". What do you know of what contacts who does or doesn't have?
MC Prussian Posted 6 August 2013 Posted 6 August 2013 You don't seem to understand the point ... he's retired ..... if this is NP's biggest connection then it's hardly a defense against someone saying he has a lack of connections!!!!! What's the massive influence he has in the game???? As far as i can see he has stepped right back and let Moyes get on with his job unhindered, as I'm sure he'd want. I have a revelation for you .....You don't HAVE to argue every point made on here. He's retired from active coaching - it doesn't mean he'll just sit back and do fvck all football-related immediately. Surely he still has influence at United and he's made enough friends over the years that would more than certainly do him a favour or two. I have a revelation for you... I will argue every point made on here as long as I find there's something to argue with.
tomtom Posted 6 August 2013 Posted 6 August 2013 Oh dear BNET you really don't learn do you? Making more ridiculously over the top statements and making yourself look foolish in the process! I'd of thought you'd of learnt your lesson after the knochesky comments
BNET Posted 6 August 2013 Posted 6 August 2013 Oh dear BNET you really don't learn do you? Making more ridiculously over the top statements and making yourself look foolish in the process! I'd of thought you'd of learnt your lesson after the knochesky comments What ?
Finnaldo Posted 6 August 2013 Posted 6 August 2013 It really doesn't help when seenitall and BNET avoid questions which prove they are talking out their arses. If either of you explain how Nigel Pearson, who has got us promotion as champions and two play-off spots in the three full seasons he's been in charge, is comparable to Holloway and Taylor, then people might actually find validity in your claims. However I fully expect you to completely ignore it as you have numerous times before and consolidate your places as the forum sh!t spouters.
inckley fox Posted 6 August 2013 Posted 6 August 2013 You haven't got a clue have you, you BAMs are in the minority on the Pearson front. Just to make it clear for you, its MY opinion that the man is useless, and l mentioned that there are plenty of others who believe the same. You half wit Pearsonites will twist anything, you are beyond help. When he gets the sack, which l will guarantee he will, what will you BAMs do, mass suicide ? cry your eyes out for a week. By the way there is no such thing as Santa... No there isn't but Pearson did win promotion with us, and get us into two play-offs. When you say 'he will never win anything' you are clearly the one living in a world of your own, because he already has. And win percentages would make Sven - and Pearson for that matter - a better Leicester manager than Martin O'Neill, which should tell you all you need to know about reading into them. Now I was of the school of thought that, should the club have the resources to do so, there would have been a reasonable argument to fire Pearson towards the end of last season because of an apparent lack of progress. That doesn't mean I don't believe he can still do it, just that our outlook may - at that moment - have been better elsewhere. So I'm not a Pearsonite at all. But I've heard some pretty extreme nonsense from people who are, and some equally daft stuff from people who aren't - but the drivel you've just come out with is so utterly deranged that I can only assume you've spent the past twenty months weeping in your candle-lit Sven shrine (something like the priest from The Omen's bedroom springs to mind), driving needles into the Pearson doll or sobbing into the Sol Bamba pillow case.
Babylon Posted 6 August 2013 Posted 6 August 2013 It really doesn't help when seenitall and BNET avoid questions which prove they are talking out their arses. If either of you explain how Nigel Pearson, who has got us promotion as champions and two play-off spots in the three full seasons he's been in charge, is comparable to Holloway and Taylor, then people might actually find validity in your claims. However I fully expect you to completely ignore it as you have numerous times before and consolidate your places as the forum sh!t spouters. All you will get is a load of stuff about how Taylor did X elsewhere and how Holloway got teams promoted... completely ignoring the fact none of it was whilst they were Leicester manager. It's like saying Sven is the best Leicester manager ever as he once won the league with Lazio.
seenitall Posted 6 August 2013 Posted 6 August 2013 It really doesn't help when seenitall and BNET avoid questions which prove they are talking out their arses. If either of you explain how Nigel Pearson, who has got us promotion as champions and two play-off spots in the three full seasons he's been in charge, is comparable to Holloway and Taylor, then people might actually find validity in your claims. However I fully expect you to completely ignore it as you have numerous times before and consolidate your places as the forum sh!t spouters. Is that a picture of you? Taylor got us to top of the Premier League and to the quarter finals of the FA cup so put that in your pipe and smoke it. Holloway was a failure but was given less time than even Sven and he is far more successful than NP in his subsequent career gaining actual real promotion from this division twice since. It is always shit when it goes against the consensus - try thinking for yourself sometime
Corky Posted 6 August 2013 Posted 6 August 2013 You haven't got a clue have you, you BAMs are in the minority on the Pearson front. Just to make it clear for you, its MY opinion that the man is useless, and l mentioned that there are plenty of others who believe the same. You half wit Pearsonites will twist anything, you are beyond help. When he gets the sack, which l will guarantee he will, what will you BAMs do, mass suicide ? cry your eyes out for a week. By the way there is no such thing as Santa... We'll support the next manager. Or we might refuse to go. Who knows?
Guest Posted 6 August 2013 Posted 6 August 2013 All you will get is a load of stuff about how Taylor did X elsewhere and how Holloway got teams promoted... completely ignoring the fact none of it was whilst they were Leicester manager. It's like saying Sven is the best Leicester manager ever as he once won the league with Lazio. almost spot on
NewburyFox Posted 6 August 2013 Posted 6 August 2013 All you will get is a load of stuff about how Taylor did X elsewhere and how Holloway got teams promoted... completely ignoring the fact none of it was whilst they were Leicester manager. It's like saying Sven is the best Leicester manager ever as he once won the league with Lazio. Is that a picture of you? Taylor got us to top of the Premier League and to the quarter finals of the FA cup so put that in your pipe and smoke it. Holloway was a failure but was given less time than even Sven and he is far more successful than NP in his subsequent career gaining actual real promotion from this division twice since. It is always shit when it goes against the consensus - try thinking for yourself sometime
Guest Foxin_mad Posted 6 August 2013 Posted 6 August 2013 Taylor got us to top of the Premier League and to the quarter finals of the FA cup so put that in your pipe and smoke it. Holloway was a failure but was given less time than even Sven and he is far more successful than NP in his subsequent career gaining actual real promotion from this division twice since. Taylor (like Sven) was ok at managing someone else's team, as soon as he started to build his own vastly over priced squad things went downhill. We then went on a record number of defeats in the Premiership and lost to Wycombe in the Cup to a goal scored by some bloke they got from a newspaper ad. Holloway (admitted himsleft) reinvented himself after the Leicester sacking, the bloke that tried to keep it 0-0 at Stoke was a completely different style of manager to the one that went to Forest and won in the play off semi and again this year at Brighton.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 6 August 2013 Posted 6 August 2013 One has to say that Ian Holloway has been the more successful manager, but please let's wait until the tables at the end of the season are finalised, when we will know just how good Pearson really is. There is no point nailing him to the cross, without giving him this season to show us how good he really is. If we fail to get promoted, it is more than likely he will be gone anyway, but let's all hope a miracle may happen.
seenitall Posted 6 August 2013 Posted 6 August 2013 almost spot on But correct as well ... we have only had one really decent manager since the '70's and a couple of very good efforts - most of the good stuff came from when Martin george was involved. A proper chairman bringing in proper managers - wouldn't that be nice?
BNET Posted 6 August 2013 Posted 6 August 2013 It really doesn't help when seenitall and BNET avoid questions which prove they are talking out their arses. If either of you explain how Nigel Pearson, who has got us promotion as champions and two play-off spots in the three full seasons he's been in charge, is comparable to Holloway and Taylor, then people might actually find validity in your claims. However I fully expect you to completely ignore it as you have numerous times before and consolidate your places as the forum sh!t spouters. What questions ? ask me a direct question and l will answer it. l would say your statement is more apt for the Pearsonites.
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