Why do some people actually dislike Pearson as manager

[MC Prussian]

Two major faults with this......

No one suggested that Man City won the league because of their fans, you made that up. Their fans belief in them and what they could achieve and what their status should be kept the clubs owners and later prospective investors also believing that they were big clubs, they never accepted their lowly status, unlike many on here appear to have done with us.

The fact that now, two years after slating me for suggesting our owners were struggling you now agree with me I will takevas a compliment...........

If you still believe that Manchester City made progress through the leagues because of their fans, you are mistaken. £££ rules, even if a part of the loyal fanbase would have abstained, there would still be enough glory hunters to fill the gaps attendance-wise.

There's enough potential football fans in the immediate Manchester area and the GMA, as well.

 

You seem to have this romantic ideal that the fans are making the difference nowadays, but they're not. At least not in the UK.

Money dictates the game, fans come second or third. The income from tickets, as high as it may be, will never cover even just a fraction of the overall running costs.

Dream on, dear seenitall. The football as you knew it died about twenty years ago.

 

[fleckneymike]

If you still believe that Manchester City made progress through the leagues because of their fans, you are mistaken. £££ rules, even if a part of the loyal fanbase would have abstained, there would still be enough glory hunters to fill the gaps attendance-wise.

There's enough potential football fans in the immediate Manchester area and the GMA, as well.

 

You seem to have this romantic ideal that the fans are making the difference nowadays, but they're not. At least not in the UK.

Money dictates the game, fans come second or third. The income from tickets, as high as it may be, will never cover even just a fraction of the overall running costs.

Dream on, dear seenitall. The football as you knew it died about twenty years ago.

 

City are a weird one, they tend to have an inverse relationship with success. When they plummeted to league 1 (as it is now) the worse they did the bigger the crowds grew. I think they averaged 28,000 in 98

[Zingari]

Why do some people dislike Pearson as manager ?

 

Probably some people dislike Pearson because they are deluded enough to actually believe they could do a better job, and resent him holding the position the believe is rightfully theirs.

[Dan]

Why do some people dislike Pearson as manager ?

 

Probably some people dislike Pearson because they are deluded enough to actually believe they could do a better job, and resent him holding the position the believe is rightfully theirs.

 

To be honest I think in general there's often so much criticism of a manager whilst knowing very few parts of the story. Whilst it's always nice to have your own take on it, I think people (myself included) would probably be amazed if we saw what Pearson's job really was like. It ain't as easy as FM.

[BNET]

If you still believe that Manchester City made progress through the leagues because of their fans, you are mistaken. £££ rules, even if a part of the loyal fanbase would have abstained, there would still be enough glory hunters to fill the gaps attendance-wise.

There's enough potential football fans in the immediate Manchester area and the GMA, as well.

 

You seem to have this romantic ideal that the fans are making the difference nowadays, but they're not. At least not in the UK.

Money dictates the game, fans come second or third. The income from tickets, as high as it may be, will never cover even just a fraction of the overall running costs.

Dream on, dear seenitall. The football as you knew it died about twenty years ago.

Reading your replies to other poster is very strange MC, you seem to distort what they say even when they point out to you that you have done this, whats a matter with you ? whats the point arguing against things people didn't say ?

[5waller5]

Firstly, I have never slated you for criticising the owners and I've done it myself on many occasions. I was extremely vocal about my disappointment in them when we were being linked with the crook Redknapp last season.

Secondly, I stand by my point about Man City - the fans might have played a small part in the owners decision to invest in the club, but to suggest that the owners bought into the Man City 'big club' mentality is ridiculous, Man City have always been a fairly small club and besides a bit of success in the 60s/70s, they've never really won anything. They've always been the noisy neighbours, always in the shadow of Man United.

Before the money came along, they were not a big Premier League club - they always had good attendances - but before Shinawatra turned up, they were a club fighting relegation with a poor squad and an inept manager in Stuart Pearce. They are unrecognisable today from the club they were in 2007.

If demanding success and pretending you're a massive club when you're not is all it takes to get success (and success in Man City's case has only come via a sheikh throwing hundreds of millions of pounds at them) then why aren't clubs like Leeds, or Sheffield Wednesday flying up the table? Where are the investors who want to come and lavish cash on these massive clubs?

Every fan of this club wants success, but we won't get it by simply demanding it. And whether we demand it or not, it will have little effect on events on of off the pitch.

 

 

I lived in Manchester during the late 80s and 90s and believe me, Man City is not a little club. 

[fleckneymike]

I lived in Manchester during the late 80s and 90s and believe me, Man City is not a little club. 

 

He's not wrong

 

FL stats on all time av attendance

 

http://www.fl125.co.uk/clubs/league-football-ranking-tables/attendances

 

(we're 19th, City are 8th some 10,000 ahead, Newcastle are 6th 12,000 ahead)

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

Why do some people dislike Pearson as manager ?

 

Probably some people dislike Pearson because they are deluded enough to actually believe they could do a better job, and resent him holding the position the believe is rightfully theirs.

  oh dear!   

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

They're stupid.

       

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

Reading your replies to other poster is very strange MC, you seem to distort what they say even when they point out to you that you have done this, whats a matter with you ? whats the point arguing against things people didn't say ?

He does this all the time, and invents comments. Without wishing to be nasty to him, I believe he has some kind of  complex, which requires him to make himself look important, but merely ends up making himself look foolish.

 

We will just have to put up with it all,and take it with a pinch of salt.He's probably a decent enough bloke though.

[MC Prussian]

He does this all the time, and invents comments. Without wishing to be nasty to him, I believe he has some kind of  complex, which requires him to make himself look important, but merely ends up making himself look foolish.

 

We will just have to put up with it all,and take it with a pinch of salt.He's probably a decent enough bloke though.

Thanks for the flowers, I thoroughly enjoy reading your and BNET's analysis of my personality - even though both assessments couldn't be much further away from the truth.

 

Apart from the "nice bloke" bit, that is.

 

I'll defend the club and the manager to a certain extent against unfounded and irrational attacks as long as they'll continue - and so will others alongside me.

The only ones making themselves foolish are well-known to this forum and few in numbers.

 

BNET's description acts merely as a mirror of his own self. And deep inside, he knows it.

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

, basically I'm right though, if they follow their thought process right back to the beginning it all started with "I just don't like him" and it's coloured their view ever since.

They never see the positives, only the negatives and their dislike amplifies them.

Oh do come off it, that simply is not true, and you know it That last sentence is trash. The same equally applies the other way round, but your unbalanced post simple ignores that fact, which is typical.

[marbelladave]

Thanks for the flowers, I thoroughly enjoy reading your and BNET's analysis of my personality - even though both assessments couldn't be much further away from the truth.

 

Apart from the "nice bloke" bit, that is.

 

I'll defend the club and the manager to a certain extent against unfounded and irrational attacks as long as they'll continue - and so will others alongside me.

The only ones making themselves foolish are well-known to this forum and few in numbers.

 

BNET's description acts merely as a mirror of his own self. And deep inside, he knows it.

 

How about rational attacks such as.......

 

His inability to get our defence to command our own box.

 

His inability to improve any of our attacking players.

 

His inability to change games that are going against us.

 

His tendency to revert to a defensive style if things are not going his way.

 

There are others but they will do for now.

[MC Prussian]

Oh do come off it, that simply is not true, and you know it That last sentence is trash. The same equally applies the other way round, but your unbalanced post simple ignores that fact, which is typical.

He's right, though. I can't recall you and your lot ever saying something positive about the club, the manager or the players. 

No matter what day, moaning and whinging left and right. And I don't remember you ever showing up when we've put in a decent performance and/or won a game.

 

Usually, you and your fellow naysayers just troll this site when they're ready to unload a new pile of pure negativity onto here.

 

Great support, that.

[MC Prussian]

How about rational attacks such as.......

 

His inability to get our defence to command our own box.

 

His inability to improve any of our attacking players.

 

His inability to change games that are going against us.

 

His tendency to revert to a defensive style if things are not going his way.

 

There are others but they will do for now.

Forest away, last game of the season. 3-2 win. That was not down to Pearson changing the game in our favour?

Beating Bolton at home 3-2 - no influence by the manager whatsoever?

 

We conceded about the least amount of goals against last season and suddenly, it's about our defense to command the box?

 

As for the "not improving our attacking players", apart from Vardy I haven't seen a player really regressing. But even Vardy, who had to find back from injury, can come good this season (it's about as much time as I'll give him).

[5waller5]

He's right, though. I can't recall you and your lot ever saying something positive about the club, the manager or the players. 

No matter what day, moaning and whinging left and right. And I don't remember you ever showing up when we've put in a decent performance and/or won a game.

 

Usually, you and your fellow naysayers just troll this site when they're ready to unload a new pile of pure negativity onto here.

 

Great support, that.

 

 

Who are they then??? Doesn't he just speak for himself like everyone else???

 

And I think you'll find that I view us as a premier league side that's had a bad 10 years ..... you see the club as a second division side that we should be happy with.

 

Who's the negative one on the club???

 

You're mixing up thinking the manager isn't good enough for our great club, with thinking the club isn't good enough for your great manager.

[marbelladave]

Forest away, last game of the season. 3-2 win. That was not down to Pearson changing the game in our favour?

Beating Bolton at home 3-2 - no influence by the manager whatsoever?

 

We conceded about the least amount of goals against last season and suddenly, it's about our defense to command the box?

 

As for the "not improving our attacking players", apart from Vardy I haven't seen a player really regressing. But even Vardy, who had to find back from injury, can come good this season (it's about as much time as I'll give him).

 

The Forest game was a tense affair, not typical of the season and, in the end we were very lucky, struggling to remember the details of the Bolton game but if you are right, it is a rarity.

 

Our defence in the box is bobbins and has been for some time, that we give away few goals is more down to our forward players and much maligned midfield pressing the opposition.

 

Players regressing? Try Waghorn, Marshall. Wood, even King plus of course Vardey who showed some promise in the first 10 games or so.

[Lionator]

The people who moan about Pearson never think about where we'd be without Nige. League One, he got us out of that. The Sven mess, he's getting us out of that while progressing. When Sven (one of the most highly regarded managers in the game) lost the plot at the club, somebody was tasked with sorting it out. You should really only judge at Christmas at the earliest.

 

Would any other manager have achieved what Nigel has done in the circumstances?

[Guest Col city fan]

The people who moan about Pearson never think about where we'd be without Nige. League One, he got us out of that. The Sven mess, he's getting us out of that while progressing. When Sven (one of the most highly regarded managers in the game) lost the plot at the club, somebody was tasked with sorting it out. You should really only judge at Christmas at the earliest.

Would any other manager have achieved what Nigel has done in the circumstances?

Pearson was left with surely a strong squad at this level? But failed to turn our form round when he took over......

Then he had a summer, and two transfer windows to sell/loan/buy. Again, although we started well, we went completely off the rails.

You have literally no idea whether another man could have come in and done better?

Don't get me wrong.. I think Pearson did ok and has done ok. But that's it really. We could have kicked on in the last half of the 11/12 season and got play offs. Then we could have got into the play offs far more convincingly last season.

Ok, is about all IMO.

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

He's right, though. I can't recall you and your lot ever saying something positive about the club, the manager or the players. 

No matter what day, moaning and whinging left and right. And I don't remember you ever showing up when we've put in a decent performance and/or won a game.

 

Usually, you and your fellow naysayers just troll this site when they're ready to unload a new pile of pure negativity onto here.

 

Great support, that.

Yes, if you wish to call it thus. As I have stated, it is simply NOT one sided, which is what you infer. It is just that you agree, with some of your so called "trolls",and thus they are exempt from your criticisms. That at least is how you come over to many of us.

 

Oh, and how the memory can play tricks. 

[fleckneymike]

Pearson was left with surely a strong squad at this level? But failed to turn our form round when he took over......

Then he had a summer, and two transfer windows to sell/loan/buy. Again, although we started well, we went completely off the rails.

You have literally no idea whether another man could have come in and done better?

Don't get me wrong.. I think Pearson did ok and has done ok. But that's it really. We could have kicked on in the last half of the 11/12 season and got play offs. Then we could have got into the play offs far more convincingly last season.

Ok, is about all IMO.

 

What he said.

Points wise we're not much better than when he arrived, we're cheaper but not much better. I doubt his remit was 'you know 'this', we'd like 'this' but cheaper'

He's done ok, but we aren't after ok.

[MC Prussian]

Yes, if you wish to call it thus. As I have stated, it is simply NOT one sided, which is what you infer. It is just that you agree, with some of your so called "trolls",and thus they are exempt from your criticisms. That at least is how you come over to many of us.

Oh, and how the memory can play tricks.

Thanks for not really replying to my post. Support is generally two-faced, both positive and negative, but never solely only one of them.

If you started to show signs of support that encourages this team, this manager and this club, instead of being so one-sided, me and a lot of others could take you a lot more seriously.

That is, if you actually want to be taken seriously.

[5waller5]

Thanks for not really replying to my post. Support is generally two-faced, both positive and negative, but never solely only one of them.

If you started to show signs of support that encourages this team, this manager and this club, instead of being so one-sided, me and a lot of others could take you a lot more seriously.

That is, if you actually want to be taken seriously.

 

 

I think he's taken alot more seriously than you.

[MC Prussian]

I think he's taken alot more seriously than you.

We can have Leicesterpool conducting a poll if you'd like.

[Guest Col city fan]

Thanks for not really replying to my post. Support is generally two-faced, both positive and negative, but never solely only one of them.

If you started to show signs of support that encourages this team, this manager and this club, instead of being so one-sided, me and a lot of others could take you a lot more seriously.

That is, if you actually want to be taken seriously.

To be honest MC, I'm actually starting to take DT more seriously than you.

I've seen little snippets of a more balanced view in DT's posts of late (I never thought I'd see myself writing that ), whereas you seem to want to argue with a lot of what many posters seem to believe.

But fair enough, you have your view and DT has his. Over time, we will have to wait and see who proves to be correct. I suspect that both of you will be, in part.

I'm even nodding in agreement with a lot of Waller's stuff recently.