Guest MattP Posted 10 March 2014 Posted 10 March 2014 The economic recovery is a smear campaign. Even Ken wouldn't try and pull off a line that far fetched.
Guest MattP Posted 10 March 2014 Posted 10 March 2014 I like the one where he said (Ken take note) that pensions and pensioners benifits shouldn't be protected from the cuts. This was obviously after he acknowledged that cuts were needed at all. Good to hear isn't it? Pensioners will always be ring fenced from cuts as well, purely on thr number on them and the fact they go out to vote en masse.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 10 March 2014 Posted 10 March 2014 What kind of jobs are you talking about and how have they been ruined, if you don't mind me asking?Tricky one to answer Moosey in all honestyCan't really say for personal reasons but suffice to say the Tories are not very well liked generally speaking in my job (I have voted for all 3 major parties in the past so I am not biased)
lavrentis Posted 10 March 2014 Posted 10 March 2014 UKIP 97%, Conservatives 90%, BNP 79%,Lib Dems 62%,Labour 39%, Green 7%
Strokes Posted 10 March 2014 Posted 10 March 2014 Good to hear isn't it? Pensioners will always be ring fenced from cuts as well, purely on thr number on them and the fact they go out to vote en masse. I think pensions need looking at but reductions isn't an option really. Raising the age would help but by the time it hits will have less impact. Its a bit of a political enigma.
Rincewind Posted 10 March 2014 Posted 10 March 2014 Good to hear isn't it? Pensioners will always be ring fenced from cuts as well, purely on thr number on them and the fact they go out to vote en masse. They also have long memories so are able to remember how well past governments have done. Like I said if I am six feet under I am past worrying.
Guest MattP Posted 10 March 2014 Posted 10 March 2014 They also have long memories so are able to remember how well past governments have done. Like I said if I am six feet under I am past worrying. Absolutely, hence why the highest level of support for UKIP and the Tories is among pensioners.
Strokes Posted 10 March 2014 Posted 10 March 2014 They also have long memories so are able to remember how well past governments have done. Like I said if I am six feet under I am past worrying. They might want to remember Gordon browns hands in the till then.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 11 March 2014 Posted 11 March 2014 I wouldn't mind Ed Balls as chancellor, I've always thought he spoke sense.Balls
Voll Blau Posted 11 March 2014 Posted 11 March 2014 Green 95% Plaid Cymru 87% Labour 83% SNP 80% Lib Dem 75% BNP 37%
bobbysmith Posted 11 March 2014 Posted 11 March 2014 I shall be spoiling my ballot, I think I may draw parliament as a steaming pile of sh-- with big ben as a big di--
Guest MattP Posted 11 March 2014 Posted 11 March 2014 Green 95% Plaid Cymru 87% Labour 83% SNP 80% Lib Dem 75% BNP 37% That's not surprising really, take out crime and immigration and the BNP are very left wing, as Norman Tebbit said "Old Labour with a bit of racism thrown in"
The Doctor Posted 11 March 2014 Posted 11 March 2014 Green 99% SNP 99% Plaid Cymru 96% Labour 92% Lib Dems 89% BNP 36% UKIP 33% Tories 20% The BNP one isn't actually that surprising if you move past the fact they're all utter troglodytes - against privatisation of the NHS, support the ability of tube workers to strike, 50% income tax over 150k: fairly left wing attitudes. Just a shame they're also homophobic, racist ****tards.
Alexikokopops Posted 11 March 2014 Posted 11 March 2014 91% Lib Dems 83% Green 83% Labour 81% Scottish Nationals 78% Plaid Cymru 64% Conservatives 27% UKIP 16% BNP Still no idea who I'll actually vote for, mind.
Guest Col city fan Posted 11 March 2014 Posted 11 March 2014 God knows we don't need for more years of Labour. MattP is right. They are the political equivalent of Sven. I want to see whether the Tories, now that the economy is getting better once more, can begin to spend more.. but prudently and wisely.
Bryn Posted 11 March 2014 Posted 11 March 2014 Honest to God I just have no ****ing idea. I find all of them differently reprehensible. Why aren't any of our politicians real, three dimensional people, instead of just caricatures? When I do those political matching things I usually match Conservative because I answer the questions from the perspective of what suits me best, but I don't believe Conservative values best suit those in society who are least capable of helping themselves. Labour are wasteful, the Lib Dems are feckless, the Greens are too liberal and you ought to be ashamed if you consider UKIP.
Webbo Posted 11 March 2014 Posted 11 March 2014 Honest to God I just have no ****ing idea. I find all of them differently reprehensible. Why aren't any of our politicians real, three dimensional people, instead of just caricatures? They all start off as ordinary people, a cynical media and the pressures of the job make them more guarded in their behaviour. I believe that most politicians of all parties want what's best for this country, they just disagree with what that is and how to get there. There are problems facing this country and the world that we can't change and other problems that don't have any easy answers. Changing the faces in charge won't alter that.
Bryn Posted 11 March 2014 Posted 11 March 2014 I believe that most politicians of all parties want what's best for this country, they just disagree with what that is and how to get there. I fundamentally disagree with you, I think it attracts people who are drawn to power and wealth.To be successful in politics requires a huge amount of incredibly unappealing attributes. There is also nothing ordinary about being groomed for an Eton/Oxford education.
Webbo Posted 11 March 2014 Posted 11 March 2014 I fundamentally disagree with you, I think it attracts people who are drawn to power and wealth.To be successful in politics requires a huge amount of incredibly unappealing attributes. There is also nothing ordinary about being groomed for an Eton/Oxford education. There people who go to Eton and Oxbridge who aren't politicians. What type of person would want to be a politician today anyway? A cynical media searching for skeletons in your cupboard, twisting and exaggerating the truth. Hate campaigns and libel on social media, vicious personal attacks, threats of violence and all while you're trying to help people (whether you agree with how or not). They are ordinary people but maybe not average people.
ADK Posted 11 March 2014 Posted 11 March 2014 You are right, and that is part of the problem. It wouldn't attract me. It attracts abnormal people in the first place.
Rincewind Posted 11 March 2014 Posted 11 March 2014 75% of politicians are the richest people in Britain. Who will they favour when making policies? There are few working class politicians now who have principles in favour of the average worker at the lower end.
Webbo Posted 11 March 2014 Posted 11 March 2014 75% of politicians are the richest people in Britain. Who will they favour when making policies?
absolutelegend Posted 11 March 2014 Posted 11 March 2014 75% of politicians are the richest people in Britain. Who will they favour when making policies? wow quite a quote. please explain. I don't believe that the 200+ richest people in Britain are all MPs.
Guest Col city fan Posted 11 March 2014 Posted 11 March 2014 Its not about all MP's I didn't think.. its about the Cabinets.. nearly all Oxbridge Graduates, both Labour and Tory. Hardly representative of the general population.
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