First Meeting of Union FS and LCFC

[Harry - LCFC]

The Family Stand is pretty exclusive now I think about it 

[Captain...]

People, representing and defending Union FS, need to stop being so defensive and dismissive of other people's comments.

 

I think it all started with a comment on how they need to be careful that it doesn't become elitist, and we don't end up with SK1 vs L1, but the disparaging comments to those raising concerns have done a lot more to make it seem like an eltist group rather than allay those concerns.

 

It is a shame Filbo Spirit doesn't post more.

 

I do have some questions that have got lost, the first one is clarity on what is involved in self policing, to what level will Union FS defend its members in the face of club discipline, if a member was kicked out, or banned what would Union FS do? and would they do it as a group? Or is the plan to just bow down to the club's demands and do everything they want for the continued use of that block. My concern would be that by being a member of Union FS you could end up being tarred with the same brush and a black mark against your name. 

 

I have seen that UFS campaigns for Twenty's plenty, safe standing, watching football is not a crime. I would recommend that they distinguish their political aims with their atmosphere aims, whilst I imagine most people would support such things, there should be a distinction between those that just want to sing at a football match and create a good atmosphere and those that want to get involved in campaigning.

[Soup]

People, representing and defending Union FS, need to stop being so defensive and dismissive of other people's comments.

I think it all started with a comment on how they need to be careful that it doesn't become elitist, and we don't end up with SK1 vs L1, but the disparaging comments to those raising concerns have done a lot more to make it seem like an eltist group rather than allay those concerns.

It is a shame Filbo Spirit doesn't post more.

I do have some questions that have got lost, the first one is clarity on what is involved in self policing, to what level will Union FS defend its members in the face of club discipline, if a member was kicked out, or banned what would Union FS do? and would they do it as a group? Or is the plan to just bow down to the club's demands and do everything they want for the continued use of that block. My concern would be that by being a member of Union FS you could end up being tarred with the same brush and a black mark against your name.

I have seen that UFS campaigns for Twenty's plenty, safe standing, watching football is not a crime. I would recommend that they distinguish their political aims with their atmosphere aims, whilst I imagine most people would support such things, there should be a distinction between those that just want to sing at a football match and create a good atmosphere and those that want to get involved in campaigning.

You might be better off sending an email direct to UFS about any concerns there,I'm sure they will respond to any questions you have.

On another note I had a good chat on Saturday with the south stand manager regarding the plans UFS have put to the club.He said the club are taking it all very seriously and really want too help if they can.He did say about banging on the back of the stand and standing in the aisle are the only real concerns they have,other than the obvious issues.

[MATLCFC]

People, representing and defending Union FS, need to stop being so defensive and dismissive of other people's comments.

 

I think it all started with a comment on how they need to be careful that it doesn't become elitist, and we don't end up with SK1 vs L1, but the disparaging comments to those raising concerns have done a lot more to make it seem like an eltist group rather than allay those concerns.

 

It is a shame Filbo Spirit doesn't post more.

 

I do have some questions that have got lost, the first one is clarity on what is involved in self policing, to what level will Union FS defend its members in the face of club discipline, if a member was kicked out, or banned what would Union FS do? and would they do it as a group? Or is the plan to just bow down to the club's demands and do everything they want for the continued use of that block. My concern would be that by being a member of Union FS you could end up being tarred with the same brush and a black mark against your name. 

 

I have seen that UFS campaigns for Twenty's plenty, safe standing, watching football is not a crime. I would recommend that they distinguish their political aims with their atmosphere aims, whilst I imagine most people would support such things, there should be a distinction between those that just want to sing at a football match and create a good atmosphere and those that want to get involved in campaigning.

 

Firstly, Self-policing again not sure why there is a need to read into things so much? We are fans not stewards as Union FS says. How will it work? I haven’t a clue but hey let’s apply some common sense, will ‘members’ of Union FS be stood there with fluorescent jackets on telling people what they can and can’t do? I highly doubt it, we are all fans of this great football club…

 

Say for example someone was being abuse in the ‘designated block’ towards a steward, which is counterintuitive on so many levels as we know, might it be an idea to have a word with a mate of his to say “c’mon mate cut it outâ€.. That is how imagine self-policing would work but I could be wrong

 

Secondly, political aims of the group… reading this I’m not sure whether you are genuinely asking or on a wind up    Supporting the Twenty Plenty campaign? So basically they are supporting fans paying £20 for a ticket. I mean how in anyway does this need a debate? How can this be bad thing? How would fans be put off by this? If the group were supporting a political party or a ‘movement’ then fair enough, I would be in agreement. The same applies for safe standing…

 

I am in agreement with you by the way that fans passionate of this idea should try and listen to criticisms rather than biting heads off, perhaps I am guilty of this myself – I don’t know? But equally I can fully understand why claims of elitism or claims that Union FS need to shun their ‘political aims’ are met with utter amazement.

 

I think some common sense needs to be applied – We are a few lads and lasses that want to help change the atmosphere for the better.

 

Me and my brother along with my Dad who is 50+ read the initial posts by Union FS thought what a good idea, let’s join them and make some noise in the KOP. That was the end of the thought process for me / us, we are simple folk mind you.  

[blueonyou]

I think it all started with a comment on how they need to be careful that it doesn't become elitist, and we don't end up with SK1 vs L1, but the disparaging comments to those raising concerns have done a lot more to make it seem like an eltist group rather than allay those concerns.

 

 

Couldn't have put it better myself.

 

I think it just needs to be managed very carefully and needs to be very transparent. Like I always said. I'm not against the idea of creating a singing section, I'm just very wary of creating divides in the fans or inadvertently creating an "elitist club".

 

Despite what some people think, it could quite quickly attract the wrong sorts (really, how is it being policed? you can't really qualify members as that will really become murky water). It could easily turn into a badge of honor for some fans (who wish it upon themselves to interpret / act that way) or like pancake said, some fans who just want to sit where a group of people are singing get inter-twined with the other agendas of Union FS unbeknownst to them.

[Captain...]

Firstly, Self-policing again not sure why there is a need to read into things so much? We are fans not stewards as Union FS says. How will it work? I haven’t a clue but hey let’s apply some common sense, will ‘members’ of Union FS be stood there with fluorescent jackets on telling people what they can and can’t do? I highly doubt it, we are all fans of this great football club…

 

Say for example someone was being abuse in the ‘designated block’ towards a steward, which is counterintuitive on so many levels as we know, might it be an idea to have a word with a mate of his to say “c’mon mate cut it outâ€.. That is how imagine self-policing would work but I could be wrong

 

Secondly, political aims of the group… reading this I’m not sure whether you are genuinely asking or on a wind up    Supporting the Twenty Plenty campaign? So basically they are supporting fans paying £20 for a ticket. I mean how in anyway does this need a debate? How can this be bad thing? How would fans be put off by this? If the group were supporting a political party or a ‘movement’ then fair enough, I would be in agreement. The same applies for safe standing…

 

I am in agreement with you by the way that fans passionate of this idea should try and listen to criticisms rather than biting heads off, perhaps I am guilty of this myself – I don’t know? But equally I can fully understand why claims of elitism or claims that Union FS need to shun their ‘political aims’ are met with utter amazement.

 

I think some common sense needs to be applied – We are a few lads and lasses that want to help change the atmosphere for the better.

 

Me and my brother along with my Dad who is 50+ read the initial posts by Union FS thought what a good idea, let’s join them and make some noise in the KOP. That was the end of the thought process for me / us, we are simple folk mind you.  

 

I do think it is a good idea as a concept, but these things can unravel when they overreach their original stated aims, I was surprised by the term self policing, and I would rather see them say they will co-operate fully with the stewards and the club should any incidents arise, rather than pledge to self police. Being told what you can and can't do by someone in an unofficial capacity often doesn't go down well.

 

Obviously anyone trying to start a racist chant will hopefully get told to shut up, but then that should happen any where in the ground. With regards banging on the back or standing in the aisle, it is all well and good when you are a small group but as it grows you are going to have more problems, and I wouldn't want the group blamed for the being unable to control the actions of a few individuals. I would leave the policing to the stewards and co-operate in any way required. UFS are not imposing any rules on members themselves, just following the club's rules, so it should be the club that polices it.

 

With regard political aims, I doubt anyone would be able to argue with the 3 campaigns they support, but it is very prominent on their website, and like I said I would reccommend having a different name for the singing section and the campaigning side, some people may want to get involved in the singing section but not that side of it, but they seem intrinsically linked on the website. What would happen if they start campaiging for something you don't agree with, such as being able to use flares and smokebombs?

[Soup]

I do think it is a good idea as a concept, but these things can unravel when they overreach their original stated aims, I was surprised by the term self policing, and I would rather see them say they will co-operate fully with the stewards and the club should any incidents arise, rather than pledge to self police. Being told what you can and can't do by someone in an unofficial capacity often doesn't go down well.

Obviously anyone trying to start a racist chant will hopefully get told to shut up, but then that should happen any where in the ground. With regards banging on the back or standing in the aisle, it is all well and good when you are a small group but as it grows you are going to have more problems, and I wouldn't want the group blamed for the being unable to control the actions of a few individuals. I would leave the policing to the stewards and co-operate in any way required. UFS are not imposing any rules on members themselves, just following the club's rules, so it should be the club that polices it.

With regard political aims, I doubt anyone would be able to argue with the 3 campaigns they support, but it is very prominent on their website, and like I said I would reccommend having a different name for the singing section and the campaigning side, some people may want to get involved in the singing section but not that side of it, but they seem intrinsically linked on the website. What would happen if they start campaiging for something you don't agree with, such as being able to use flares and smokebombs?

Have you said at all wether you may by coming over to SK1?

[cityfanlee23]

We have such touchy fans, it absolutely unbelievable.

 

'Elitist' ffs

 

Even cityfanlee hasn't done or said anything that non-UFS members haven't had their say about (re: atmosphere) on here in the last few years.

 

If you don't want to be part of UFS, you don't have to.

 

That doesn't mean you have to slag them off if one of their members critcises L1.

 

There's nothing more UFS could do to appease fellow supporters.

 

Grow up, honestly.

 

They've done a fantastic job so far, whether you want to be involved or not.

 

 

Pretty much it, Just any excuse to score points really...

 

Everything I say is my opinion only as everyone on here already knows, I have an opinion and I say it...

I believe the fans are the 12th man...

If I am to be blunt about my opinion...

If you are going to come up to SK1 and stand and make no contribution to the atmosphere Then dont bother...

 

If you are going to sing for 90 minutes then welcome aboard..

If I say L/K has got worse over the past few seasons, this is not me maliciously attacking every member of L/K and personally abusing them, it's just a fact that it's gradually going downhill.. if it wasnt, we wouldnt need to form a new section to get the god awful atmosphere rocking again would we? Clearly the section we have does not provide adequate atmosphere. Again, No offence.

 

The fact I say it as it is just calls on people (The usuals) to come and try to shoot you down for Rep points....

If people cannot handle the FACT that something drastic needed to be done at our ground then go and sit in the family stand.

 

I support UFS 100% but i am entitled to my opinion just as much as anyone who disagrees...

 

 

To me its black and white. Personally, If you dont sing and stand and do nothing, I don't want you in SK1, If you sing for 90 minutes win lose or draw, I'd love you in there...

I dont own the section, so it's not my decision, but for people to get so offended by the black and white truth that we have had a shite atmosphere for years? rediculous.

 

 

This is not L/K vs SK1, But unfortunately the former is getting worse and worse, so something had to be done. People question why Sk1 was formed, then cannot handle the answer.

[Union FS]

Apologies for the delay in responding to a number of queries on here regarding the ticket process. As some of you will know, we are currently working with LCFC in order to finalise the process and as such did not want to confuse matters by stating one thing only for it to be changed later.

 

Having said that, it is probably worth clearing up a few misconceptions to put some of you at ease, but please note that the process may be subject to a few tweaks at some stage.

 

The area itself

 

The area we will be taking up first is the middle of the three blue areas below. For ease of reference, this is between seats 17 and 29 of rows FF to PP.

 

We will then look to occupy the blue area to the right of the diagram until it reaches capacity before moving to the blue area on the left.

The diagram shows current season ticket holders in this area in yellow.

 

 

Important note: if you are one of those season ticket holders in yellow and do not want to be involved in a 'singing section' - please do get in touch via [email protected].

 

Phase 1 – from now until renewals period starts:
 

All season ticket holders (STHs), whether they are Union FS members or not, are able to renew or relocate to the area under normal season ticket relocation regulations. We recommend that those thinking about moving do so as soon as possible so that you can get the seats you want to.

 

All non-STHs, whether they are Union FS members or not, can continue to buy match tickets in the area as normal until the end of this season.

 

Phase 2 – Renewals period until the last day before the general sale of season tickets starts:

 

All season ticket holders (STHs), whether they are Union FS members or not, are able to renew or relocate to the area under normal season ticket relocation regulations. We recommend that those thinking about moving do so as soon as possible so that you can get the seats you want to.

 

All non-STHs, whether they are Union FS members or not, can continue to buy match tickets in the area as normal until the end of this season.

 

On the final day of the renewals period, Union FS will submit a list of its members to LCFC.

 

Phase 3 - First fortnight (TBC) of the general sale of season tickets:

 

LCFC will withhold an area appropriate to the size of Union FS' membership for prospective STHs, by removing them from online sale.

During this phase, only individuals on our members' list will be able to purchase tickets in the aforementioned area. They will be able to do so via phone or at the ticket office only. This is to maximise the chance that only individuals who have the intention of singing for 90 minutes will be located in the block.

 

Individuals who wish to join the group can still do so by e-mailing us at [email protected]. Their details will be forwarded to the Club accordingly and they will be able to purchase a season ticket in the area.

 

In order to minimise disruption to others who do not wish to be part of the group, season tickets will be sold to new STHs from the back row going forward.

 

Phase 4 - General sale of season tickets:

 

At the end of phase 3, all remaining seats in the area will go on general sale to all supporters.

 

Union FS members who do not currently hold a season ticket therefore have a two week period only to buy their ticket in the area. We would therefore advise all to purchase as soon as possible to avoid disappointment.

 

Union FS does not expect that the area will be completely sold out to new season ticket holders and therefore expect that there will be tickets available on a match-to-match basis.

 

Phase 5 - New joiners and individual match tickets:

 

Union FS can afford no priority to its members who wish to purchase individual match tickets in the area ahead of other Leicester City fans.

 

Details of new joiners will be forwarded to the Club on a monthly basis so that they are eligible for future season tickets or half-season tickets in the aforementioned area.

 

 

We hope that the above provides some clarity with respect to the ticketing process we are hoping to implement in conjunction with the Club.

As always, we welcome constructive and positive feedback so please let us know if you would like further clarification on any of the phases detailed above or have any ideas on how the process could be improved.

 

We appreciate that there have been other queries raised in this thread and do hope to answer them as soon as possible. In turn, we hope that you appreciate we have to avoid getting into discussions that do the group more harm than good.

 

Thank you for your support as always.

 

Union FS

 

[Cotts]

Thinking of joining you guys in SK1 for the brighton game. Are you expecting it to be decent? How was it up there last night? 

[Soup]

Thinking of joining you guys in SK1 for the brighton game. Are you expecting it to be decent? How was it up there last night?

Not amazing,but good.Need more people to raise the volume.If you wanna sing get over mate.

[AndWhat?]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE STOP WITH THE PALACE AND CELTIC RIP OFFS!!!!

 

We have so many classic chants that would sounds quality if we belted them out as loud as some do for the rip offs. 

 

I wouldn't even be that against them if the lyrics were even a little bit original but they are just completely copied. 

[Voll Blau]

Thinking of joining you guys in SK1 for the brighton game. Are you expecting it to be decent? How was it up there last night? 

 

Any atmosphere is only ever going to be as decent as the people who contribute to it. Get involved yourself and it's bound to increase your own enjoyment.

[Cotts]

Yeaa i'll get involved. The reason I asked what you were expecting was due to the fact there seems to have been more emphasis on different fixtures. Or maybe that was just what I noticed initially with the hype around the Charlton fixture. Looking forward to joining you all anyway.

[Soup]

Yeaa i'll get involved. The reason I asked what you were expecting was due to the fact there seems to have been more emphasis on different fixtures. Or maybe that was just what I noticed initially with the hype around the Charlton fixture. Looking forward to joining you all anyway.

Nice one,I presume you've seen the diagram above for seat numbers.

[Cotts]

Nice one,I presume you've seen the diagram above for seat numbers.

Yeaa, i'm kk/24. So judging by the diagram il be just in front of most of you? It looked like the closest I could get.